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What are the major issues with these pre-installed products that would prevent you from choosing one?
#Response DateResponse Text
1.10/17/2007 1:43:00 AMWould rather install ourselves.
2.10/17/2007 1:44:00 AMWe install our own systems
3.10/17/2007 2:10:00 AMOffice suite and calendar applications.
4.10/17/2007 2:15:00 AMubuntu ? no thanks ! Y it is popular is beyond me, Mepis, Xandros, pclinuxos, mint are all BETTER ! many times I installed Ubuntu and forced myself to use it for a week, thinking it must be me as everyone else seems to think it is great.... thanks but no thanks
5.10/17/2007 2:33:00 AMWe prefer to deploy our own systems; pre-installed Linux purchases would only be an option to avoid paying for Windows, which would be overwritten immediately.
6.10/17/2007 2:35:00 AMCost of new equipment. We prefer thin client technology which is much more affordable with LTSP. We are also interested in multi-seat X. Groovix and others pre-install that but it is still too expensive compared to thin clients. We build our own multi-seat machines.
7.10/17/2007 3:59:00 AMwe have the required number of desktops so we dont need to purchase new desktops pre-installed by linux.
8.10/17/2007 4:07:00 AMMy distribution isn't pre-installed on a wide-enough variety of hardware.
9.10/17/2007 4:12:00 AMEnd-user training
10.10/17/2007 4:14:00 AMI would buy a laptop with linux pre-installed and will soon be looking for one.
11.10/17/2007 4:37:00 AMYou are determined to use this distribution.
12.10/17/2007 5:04:00 AMIt is more cost effective to assemble our own workstations which provide better reliability, performance and compaibility.
13.10/17/2007 5:35:00 AMMy prefered linux distro does not come preinstalled &amp; I prefer to set up on my own anyway.
14.10/17/2007 5:47:00 AMNot ideal settings for our use.
15.10/17/2007 6:09:00 AMHardware options
16.10/17/2007 6:09:00 AMnone
17.10/17/2007 6:10:00 AMWe install our own site tailored images
18.10/17/2007 6:11:00 AMI prefer to do a straight install from a clean ISO and build it myself.
19.10/17/2007 6:16:00 AMwe run a quite specific setup (application deployment, nfs mounts) so all linux workstations need to be configured manually
20.10/17/2007 6:19:00 AMNone. The reason why we choose not to deploy pre-installed products are because we prefer to have our own installation of choice.
21.10/17/2007 6:33:00 AMGetting tied up with some particular vendor
22.10/17/2007 6:38:00 AMI already have Linux-ready hardware, so I'll install it myself.
23.10/17/2007 6:46:00 AMInstallion is simply not a big issue for desktops. However notebooks may be a different story
24.10/17/2007 6:47:00 AMCentral user management is not deployed.
25.10/17/2007 6:57:00 AMprefer to maintain control over the hardware
26.10/17/2007 6:58:00 AMSupport
27.10/17/2007 7:19:00 AMFor in is just matter of politics
28.10/17/2007 7:23:00 AMSecurity
29.10/17/2007 7:26:00 AMDon't need them, perfectly happy to install &amp; customise &quot;off-the-shelf&quot; Fedora, Ubuntu etc.
30.10/17/2007 7:37:00 AMRange of support for installed applications. Customization to better suit company requirements and to address third party tools (MS Exchange, etc.) compatibility.
31.10/17/2007 7:41:00 AMNone,
32.10/17/2007 7:49:00 AMDon't fit the organizations application and security requirements.
33.10/17/2007 8:29:00 AMWe use thin clients (LTSP) and run full Linux distro on the application server only. PXE/Etherboot support is fine for clients.
34.10/17/2007 8:32:00 AMNo need now.
35.10/17/2007 8:32:00 AMWe want full control and integration with our own systems for home directories and authentication. It's easier to configure stuff from scratch ourselves than to verify and check someone else's configuration.
36.10/17/2007 8:35:00 AMwhat is it good for? losing competencies?
37.10/17/2007 8:43:00 AMrather roll out a custom distro with all applications required and settings allready there, using a ghost like system, as in autoyast or a debian net install.
38.10/17/2007 8:58:00 AMOur firm has an extensive IT. Creating the image that is used by all the machines is trivial compared to the work in porting the custom software.
39.10/17/2007 9:05:00 AMjust laptop's with ubuntu
40.10/17/2007 9:13:00 AMThey cannot run well on any laptop/desktop. Desktops/laptops does not come out with any distro pre-installed (just beginning, few choices)
41.10/17/2007 9:18:00 AMWe like todo our own customized installation
42.10/17/2007 9:24:00 AMlimited choice for distribution, limited choice of hardware
43.10/17/2007 9:51:00 AMThe fact that they are pre-installed.
44.10/17/2007 9:54:00 AMLack of technical support.
45.10/17/2007 9:54:00 AMIt's not the product itself, it's the hurdle of adding support for a new OS that it implies.
46.10/17/2007 9:55:00 AMWe have a limited deployment, and DVD/CD distributions suit our needs just fine.
47.10/17/2007 10:12:00 AMWe already have a defined installation process. We would have to modify the installation anyway.
48.10/17/2007 10:32:00 AMWe customize our installations with the packages we need. It is just as easy to load from scratch as it is to reconfigure someone elses package.
49.10/17/2007 10:33:00 AMSecurity and unballanced application selection
50.10/17/2007 10:37:00 AMThere are not applications suitable for my company, but then mostly front end tools. Most of the critical applications are running on *nix systems, bu since they are so specific for our organization there are no front end tools available - speaking of open source.
51.10/17/2007 10:53:00 AMThere is no pre-installed Debian with hardware-developping tools.
52.10/17/2007 10:53:00 AMNone. Point it it would mean getting new machines and since everybody owns their own computer that wouldn't work.
53.10/17/2007 10:56:00 AMour users/emplyees like to have fully customized environment and free of choice of linux distribution
54.10/17/2007 11:17:00 AMEstablished procedures - we also install Windows from scratch.
55.10/17/2007 11:19:00 AMWe prefer to install our computers from scratch with the same OS (Ubuntu).
56.10/17/2007 11:31:00 AMI Like to do it myself, That way we have just wat we want/need on the system. Also there is a lot more freedom this way
57.10/17/2007 11:32:00 AMWe fit our system to our higly specific need and therefore rely on easy, deep configuration from hand.
58.10/17/2007 11:33:00 AMNot the right applications.
59.10/17/2007 11:34:00 AMchoice of distribution
60.10/17/2007 11:44:00 AMI want the flexibility to pick and choose
61.10/17/2007 11:46:00 AMdo not meet our configuration needs
62.10/17/2007 12:02:00 PMCurrent vendor does not offer this on the desktop.
63.10/17/2007 12:19:00 PMThere are not really any, just would like to do it myself.
64.10/17/2007 12:19:00 PMPoor quality of desktop software
65.10/17/2007 12:39:00 PMSome of our vendors will not support there products using these pre-installed distributions.
66.10/17/2007 12:42:00 PMWell, we like custom things
67.10/17/2007 12:42:00 PMi.t. management
68.10/17/2007 12:51:00 PMdistro customisation
69.10/17/2007 12:54:00 PMthis is not the fact. we already own too much PCs so we aren't going to upgrade them soon
70.10/17/2007 12:58:00 PM1) not guaranteed peripheral devices support
71.10/17/2007 1:05:00 PMMy current work project requires that I run Office 2007. Powerpoint 2007 has numerous layout effects improvements that make it possible to create extremely good-looking final content products.
72.10/17/2007 1:06:00 PMlack of trainingfor the staff Technical support
73.10/17/2007 1:10:00 PMOMB mandate for encrypted disk systems (ie, SafeBoot) means we'd have to wipe and reinstall anyway. Coming OMB mandates for 2-factor authentication are also problematic for Linux desktops right now.
74.10/17/2007 1:44:00 PMLocked down or not configurable
75.10/17/2007 1:50:00 PMThey don't meet our hardware requirements. We build our own machines, so pre-installed anything is out of the question.
76.10/17/2007 1:54:00 PMI don't care for the distribution that most vendors offer (Ubuntu)
77.10/17/2007 1:56:00 PMWe customize what we use to our needs; if we were to use a pre-installed product we'd just wipe it and re-image it anyway. That said, it would be nice to have hardware already validated for Linux use.
78.10/17/2007 1:57:00 PMDesktop Linux is not being offered on business class models from vendors.
79.10/17/2007 2:01:00 PMI want to install everything by myself. I know better what I need. It sounds like madness -- yes?
80.10/17/2007 2:07:00 PMnone
81.10/17/2007 2:07:00 PMNone
82.10/17/2007 2:09:00 PMIssues? What are the advantages?
83.10/17/2007 2:13:00 PMIncorrect hardware specifications available.
84.10/17/2007 2:18:00 PMmissing features
85.10/17/2007 2:19:00 PMNot customizable / flexible enough, Preferred linux distribution not available from vendor
86.10/17/2007 2:22:00 PMThe distribution choice.
87.10/17/2007 2:22:00 PMThey are not available in Chile and they are restricted just a set of models.
88.10/17/2007 2:24:00 PMWe use a standard Kubuntu configuration for our desktop systems and we prefer to build those systems ourselves.
89.10/17/2007 2:26:00 PMLack of driver support for GPIB cards
90.10/17/2007 2:27:00 PMIntegration in to the Enterprise and security issues.
91.10/17/2007 2:37:00 PMWe are stuck in Windows territory
92.10/17/2007 2:41:00 PMwe never use preinstalled software
93.10/17/2007 3:06:00 PMdon't care for the mix of bloatware that is attached to most pre-configured installations
94.10/17/2007 3:15:00 PMThey are missing most of the packages crucial for our organization, it is easier to install everything by ourselves than to adjust the store-bought linux-box to our needs.
95.10/17/2007 3:19:00 PMnone
96.10/17/2007 3:21:00 PMAvailable on select hardware only.
97.10/17/2007 3:21:00 PMNeed too much customization when they arrive
98.10/17/2007 3:21:00 PMCost of for-pay products, or lack of selection among free products.
99.10/17/2007 3:27:00 PMMissing Educational Software. Most Edu Software is released only f&#252;r Windows.
100.10/17/2007 3:27:00 PMThe question does not apply. We already buy pre-installed linux systems, although usually we reformat and re-install after confirming that the system is functional
101.10/17/2007 3:30:00 PMAcceptance and promotion by the Ohio Educational Technology Department.
102.10/17/2007 3:35:00 PMwe re-image all servers and workstations to local standards
103.10/17/2007 3:40:00 PMPre-installed linux not a factor in our decision.
104.10/17/2007 3:40:00 PMI am no use any of them, so I no not now.
105.10/17/2007 3:42:00 PMuse of our enterprise software not available on Linux.
106.10/17/2007 3:43:00 PMLack of preferred distribution choice (i.e. Ubuntu is not a distribution we are looking to use).
107.10/17/2007 3:45:00 PMMissing support for specific distribution
108.10/17/2007 3:46:00 PMOwn packaged version of development tools (tomcat, eclipse etc.)
109.10/17/2007 3:46:00 PMUn-necessary
110.10/17/2007 3:47:00 PMWrong distro.
111.10/17/2007 3:48:00 PMEnough in-house knowledge to roll-out a standardized Kubuntu desktop for all users on any hardware present
112.10/17/2007 3:48:00 PMLimited choice of Linux distributions (i.e. Dell/Ubuntu)
113.10/17/2007 3:49:00 PMLacking of (almost) perfect compatibility with those binary format used by Microsoft Office for everything.
114.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMWe use Fedora, CentOS and Gentoo. Also, we prefer installing the OS by our self.
115.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMcost
116.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMLocal customisation of linux distros
117.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMWe would rather install and configure our machines ourselves.
118.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMMost ar GNOME-based
119.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMLack of control
120.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMThese products could never reflect our company structure. It is easier for us, to have an Image that we deploy to our clients...
121.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMThere are a lot of computers still up to date but installed windows. We don't need to throw them away to buy new pre-installed computers. And sometime, some tools have to be run under windows like arm tools.
122.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMI want to control the setup completely
123.10/17/2007 3:52:00 PMWe cannot trust them, and they are low quality, anyway.
124.10/17/2007 3:52:00 PMWe require a customized desktop environment that can be centrally managed.
125.10/17/2007 3:53:00 PMMainly, we need specific versions of Linux on our development systems, to mimic our final products. Also, our development machines have, in the past, been cheap &quot;black box&quot; systems. If, however, we ever managed to convince our IT department to use Linux for our standard desktop compute server then I think we'd definitely be interested in a pre-installed version; probably Ubuntu for ease of maintenance and reliable updates.
126.10/17/2007 3:54:00 PMUnavailability of certain models.
127.10/17/2007 3:54:00 PMLinux Distribution Type Manufacturer
128.10/17/2007 3:56:00 PMWe don't like pre-installed software
129.10/17/2007 3:59:00 PMNo pre-installed dual boot options. We install dual boot disk images.
130.10/17/2007 4:02:00 PMadjusting of pre-installed products to personal needs does not save time over doing a clean installation
131.10/17/2007 4:02:00 PMIT management prefers to customize installations from scratch.
132.10/17/2007 4:06:00 PMOur major issue is business critical application availability: - Adobe products - Outlook ... or similiar Having pre-installed machines doesn't help with that.
133.10/17/2007 4:09:00 PMsome special requirements wouldn't be met
134.10/17/2007 4:11:00 PMJust not what we do.
135.10/17/2007 4:12:00 PMNot customized to our environment. Easier if we just build it ourselves.
136.10/17/2007 4:14:00 PMagain: &quot;that depends&quot; There should be a third possibility besides &quot;Yes, we will&quot; and &quot;No, we will not&quot;: &quot;Maybe we will - depending on the situation.&quot;
137.10/17/2007 4:16:00 PMPersonal Use I would definitely use one of these. Our business (government) does not deploy Linux on the desktop. We would need to develop a Linux strategy before moving forward.
138.10/17/2007 4:17:00 PMWe need up-to-date systems (latest kernels in particular). Latest Fedora provides that, but Ubuntu is behind.
139.10/17/2007 4:19:00 PMwe build our own workstations
140.10/17/2007 4:24:00 PMWe prefer KDE based desktops and our best choice is a modified Kubuntu at this time.
141.10/17/2007 4:25:00 PMnone
142.10/17/2007 4:26:00 PMWe need CAD applications that are not yet available on Linux. Other than that, either one of the pre-installed options would do fine.
143.10/17/2007 4:27:00 PMVery limited choice of providers of preinstalled Linux desktop workstations. Ideally not-for-profit or charitable distributors would be chosen as suppliers. Generally, the cost of the machines still does not reflect the value of the product.
144.10/17/2007 4:28:00 PM* security concerns * useless auditing time * automatic install with debian installer easy and quick
145.10/17/2007 4:28:00 PMNot the distribution that already runs on the other systems.
146.10/17/2007 4:30:00 PMWe prefer to personally install the OS.
147.10/17/2007 4:32:00 PMDistribution choice. Our organization would like to standardize on a single distribution for easier system administration. Currently, we use Red Hat Enterprise on our servers, so we use Fedora for our desktops. We would need that available to purchase. Secondarily, hardware choice. When last investigated, there was a price premium and/or limited hardware available for pre-installed Linux. We just bought stuff we knew would be compatible and installed it ourselves for a high price discount.
148.10/17/2007 4:31:00 PMThe hardware choice available with pre-installed Linux is still too restricted (for desktop use).
149.10/17/2007 4:33:00 PMavailability on selected type of hardware
150.10/17/2007 4:33:00 PMLack of diversity. There are so few of them to choose from, which makes it difficult to find the optimal solution with the right price/performance.
151.10/17/2007 4:34:00 PMI don't know
152.10/17/2007 4:36:00 PMWe're using a heavily customized desktop and server image anway, same holds for our embedded Linux images.
153.10/17/2007 4:39:00 PMNot required.
154.10/17/2007 4:41:00 PMWe have our own Linux environment which differs from any vendor-supplied one. For example, we run AFS, use a custom version of Kerberos, have a different packaging system and a different host installation system
155.10/17/2007 4:43:00 PMLack of company-specific apps. We reimage everything when it comes in the door, even Windows.
156.10/17/2007 4:46:00 PMWe use PING (PartImage Not Ghost) and RIS to wipe and redeploy XP on all our Windows PCs. We will not use preonfigured systems, no matter which OS or distribution is chosen.
157.10/17/2007 4:49:00 PMA possibility to make the installation our way
158.10/17/2007 4:50:00 PMThe fact that most of them are INTEL powered. We DO NOT use Intel powered computers. We build our own on premises from scratch all AMD powered. If we have to buy a notebook, its a AMD powered model. We were hoping to buy DELL notebooks with Ubuntu, but most of them are Intel powered so we didn't.
159.10/17/2007 4:50:00 PMOur customers want Windows.
160.10/17/2007 4:52:00 PMNo issues, it's just that we already have competent systems people who can configure standard boxen with Linux, and have been doing so for a number of years. So pre-installed Linux would be somewhat convenient, perhaps, but not make a huge difference to us.
161.10/17/2007 4:54:00 PMWe are capable of doing the install; Don't like Ubuntu.
162.10/17/2007 4:57:00 PMOur major applications do not work with linux.
163.10/17/2007 4:57:00 PMthey are usually kitchen sink installs. It is too much work to trim the install to our requirements.
164.10/17/2007 4:58:00 PMWe've not been waiting for pre-installation so it has not been an obstacle
165.10/17/2007 4:59:00 PMDistribution choice and the tendency for vendors to use non-standard configurations (e.g. debian systems should be amended with apt, not by stuffing files in /opt.)
166.10/17/2007 5:03:00 PMI haven't seen anyone pre-install our preferred distro; Fedora. And considering that we can take a machine from &quot;bare metal&quot; to &quot;installed&quot; in under half an hour, I'm not terribly concerned with having to order machines pre-installed; I'd spend at least that much time un-doing various things that had been pre-installed for us. To help with our own internal roll-outs, we created an RPM meta-package which simply contained dependencies for everything we knew we wanted to have on the systems. We'd do a basic/minimal install onto the machine and then install our meta-package. Yum would then pull in everything else we wanted onto the machine.
167.10/17/2007 5:04:00 PMWe are a Microsoft workshop for the most part of our IT infrastructure
168.10/17/2007 5:05:00 PMWe can choose only what we need, pre-installed systems are sometimes wasting CPU time or disk space with applications which are useless for us.
169.10/17/2007 5:07:00 PMLack of extra software, linux-from-a-box comes with a simple kernel and a &lt;u&gt;few&lt;/u&gt; applications... desktop users need everything like windows bundles their software, dell should auto-apt-get a lot of extra free things before it sells the operating system... so as to not embarrass itself.
170.10/17/2007 5:10:00 PMYou can buy a better cheaper windows intalled machine from Dell then an Ubuntu pre-installed machine from Dell and just install your own OS.
171.10/17/2007 5:10:00 PMConservatism on the part of tech support and users. Unwillingness to move away from MS sofware
172.10/17/2007 5:11:00 PMdon't need them.what we have is more than able to handle what we need.
173.10/17/2007 5:14:00 PMI just don't see the need. I'm happy to do the install, and by doing so, I am able to customize what I install.
174.10/17/2007 5:15:00 PMPersonal preferences are too different and
175.10/17/2007 5:15:00 PMThe pre-installed systems do not come configured with our private packages, so we have to reinstall the systems anyway. Therefore, pre-installed systems are of no value to us.
176.10/17/2007 5:15:00 PMprefer to install in the company
177.10/17/2007 5:16:00 PMThe hardware choices made by the manufacturers are token at best and insulting to most experienced Linux users
178.10/17/2007 5:16:00 PMSupport is not inviable from Vendor.Most of the so-called vendor do not recommend Linux.There is a inertia to give option.
179.10/17/2007 5:16:00 PMThe choices are often limited and we would end up wiping the drive on any computers we receive to install our own build. Therefore pre-installation has little bearing on our usage of GNU/Linux.
180.10/17/2007 5:19:00 PMNot using the Linux distribution that I trust and use.. that being Mandriva.
181.10/17/2007 5:19:00 PMWe roll out custom installations with additional applications and security changes.
182.10/17/2007 5:20:00 PMAs all enterprises we would not use an OEM provided image so this was irrelevant though support was a nice bonus.
183.10/17/2007 5:21:00 PMNot the preferred distro
184.10/17/2007 5:25:00 PMWe need to do bulk imaging anyway.
185.10/17/2007 5:28:00 PMToo many windows only applications in use
186.10/17/2007 5:29:00 PMWe need many Linux distibutions for our products testing. Will vendors install different Linux on different computers?
187.10/17/2007 5:30:00 PMDon't need pre-installation
188.10/17/2007 5:30:00 PMConfiguration and unity.
189.10/17/2007 5:33:00 PMWould like to be able to easily do custom image install.
190.10/17/2007 5:33:00 PMToo expensive. Cheaper to buy other PCs, but don't want to pay MS Tax.
191.10/17/2007 5:34:00 PMcustomizability
192.10/17/2007 5:37:00 PMWe do the desktop building ourselves. Even if the laptops come with some version of windows, we generally install it fresh.
193.10/17/2007 5:37:00 PMWe have no issues with them, but we have no need for them. We install our own distribution and control it completely.
194.10/17/2007 5:38:00 PMnone, not a r
195.10/17/2007 5:39:00 PMI would like to choose the packages at the install
196.10/17/2007 5:41:00 PMmost apps we use must be configured by hand. so pre installed software does us no good
197.10/17/2007 5:43:00 PMNot the same distro/setup as the existing Linux systems.
198.10/17/2007 5:43:00 PMSo far, the distribution we use isn't offered.
199.10/17/2007 5:44:00 PMIt would be like Gentoo.
200.10/17/2007 5:44:00 PMComplexity Too much installed applications
201.10/17/2007 5:44:00 PMIn general, 'nothing'. There isn't really a requirement for pre-installed products, although we might use them. One issue may be the required design/support issue w.r.t. different package management tools and/or file/directory locations (ie. LSB).
202.10/17/2007 5:46:00 PMwe would like to install system ourselves.
203.10/17/2007 5:47:00 PMCan't run Windows programs.
204.10/17/2007 5:51:00 PMNot an issue of personal choice; educational - research facilities entangled with Microsoft would require after sales support and end-user education services on a par with those offered by MS Academic Alliance
205.10/17/2007 5:51:00 PMWe dont want ANY preinstalled machines. We reinstall everything.
206.10/17/2007 5:54:00 PMNot tailor made to our needs, prefer to install ourselves
207.10/17/2007 5:57:00 PMI assemble my own machines, why bother with a machine that has components of lesser quality?
208.10/17/2007 5:59:00 PMnot integrated into &quot;our&quot; IT infrastructure
209.10/17/2007 6:00:00 PMGNU/Linux distribution that is pre-installed.
210.10/17/2007 6:00:00 PMToo easy to install existing distribution.
211.10/17/2007 6:00:00 PMThey do not have the ease of use, fit and finish or compatibility of other offerings such as Mac OS X 10.4 or the soon to be released 10.5. There is no established standard around a modus operandi. If the Linux guys standardized on, say, Ubuntu or Debian, chances are businesses would abandon Windows, and especially Windows Vista, which by all accounts is a disaster. Good luck, guys!
212.10/17/2007 6:01:00 PMCustomization of programdistribution
213.10/17/2007 6:01:00 PMSoftware compatibility / performance issues
214.10/17/2007 6:05:00 PMJust not needed - prefer to control what is installed and where.
215.10/17/2007 6:06:00 PMTend to build our own hardware
216.10/17/2007 6:07:00 PMNo real issues, but plain off-the-shelf parts often work just as well.
217.10/17/2007 6:07:00 PMN/A
218.10/17/2007 6:09:00 PMWe have standardized on Mandriva Linux for desktops, and nobody offers this pre-installed that I am aware of. I have no desire to start mixing distributions.
219.10/17/2007 6:09:00 PMI think it's mostly inertia--existing policies and procedures are in place for Microsoft products and services.
220.10/17/2007 6:10:00 PMWe always re-install all machines we use no matter what the os is.
221.10/17/2007 6:10:00 PMIt's not the distro we would run in production
222.10/17/2007 6:12:00 PMSoftware choice: it's allways easier to install whatever needed only then to install whatever needed AND uninstall the rest of applications.
223.10/17/2007 6:12:00 PMWanting to install a 'vanilla' OS (without vendor-specific stuff).
224.10/17/2007 6:13:00 PMStill there are issues with deifferent linux machines, the lacking support from hardware vendors are the major problem. How well does the pre installed Linux machines work? Does everything work? Which models are offered and can I use my bluetooth devices with them? Linux is getting better, but it's not there.
225.10/17/2007 6:14:00 PMLack of customisation.
226.10/17/2007 6:14:00 PMonly base system
227.10/17/2007 6:15:00 PMavailability of software required for our needs.
228.10/17/2007 6:17:00 PMWe need our own prototyped Images
229.10/17/2007 6:16:00 PMLack of flexibility in hardware configuration
230.10/17/2007 6:18:00 PMNeed so many modifications, tuning, costumizations, etc that our own installations fit much better.
231.10/17/2007 6:18:00 PMmissing device drivers
232.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMNo need for them -- fully competent to do installation in-house.
233.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMOur requirements are not so high, we simply don't need.
234.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMOur staff has the technical knowledge to deploy Linux without needing it pre-installed.
235.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMIt is not necessary as existing vendors suffice all our mets; we already using Linux on desktops in many areas (in case we have enough software to do).
236.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMTakes longer to configure and get &quot;everything right&quot; than to install everything from scratch by yourself.
237.10/17/2007 6:20:00 PMWe need to apply our own security configuration.
238.10/17/2007 6:20:00 PMWe already use linux, and can customize it precisely to our needs. We may buy the hardware, but we know what we want in the software part and can take care of that.
239.10/17/2007 6:20:00 PMthat they are preinstalled
240.10/17/2007 6:21:00 PMno an issue
241.10/17/2007 6:21:00 PMNot enough distribution choice
242.10/17/2007 6:21:00 PMOptions and customization.
243.10/17/2007 6:22:00 PMI dont know what they are
244.10/17/2007 6:22:00 PMI trust ourselves better, pre-installed systems do not reflex exactly our needs.
245.10/17/2007 6:23:00 PMNone.
246.10/17/2007 6:24:00 PMnothing
247.10/17/2007 6:24:00 PMWrong configuration
248.10/17/2007 6:25:00 PMAlready described earlier -- Linux is mostly a server side tool for us, there isn't a compelling reason to push it to desktop users.
249.10/17/2007 6:26:00 PMI don't want a pre-install. I'm just going to wipe the hard drive and install a custom image anyway.
250.10/17/2007 6:26:00 PMMissing DirectX, hard to test DirectX applications then...
251.10/17/2007 6:32:00 PMDom anst&#228;llda har ingen kunskap om linux som &#228;r ganska sv&#229;ranv&#228;nda
252.10/17/2007 6:34:00 PMProduct does not meet current needs.
253.10/17/2007 6:35:00 PMNavision / Microsoft Dynamics NAV Visual Studio
254.10/17/2007 6:35:00 PMThere are no issues - our technical staff can handle installations.
255.10/17/2007 6:36:00 PMIt's not the pre-installed apps/prods that's the problem per se it's the fact that there is no well working subst for Outlook ... well the whole MS office suite.
256.10/17/2007 6:38:00 PMWindows application support
257.10/17/2007 6:39:00 PMDoesn't contain the products we need.
258.10/17/2007 6:39:00 PMWe need to build custom installs for security and group access etc.
259.10/17/2007 6:41:00 PMThe preinstalled Linux distributions.
260.10/17/2007 6:41:00 PMIt is too much to have to support two differnet OS for our organization.
261.10/17/2007 6:42:00 PMnot offered by our vendors
262.10/17/2007 6:44:00 PMNot part of the OEMs &quot;business&quot; lines, long imagesupport and so on.
263.10/17/2007 6:45:00 PMDoes not work with all software
264.10/17/2007 6:46:00 PMToo old software when hw comes to customer, wrong ditribution
265.10/17/2007 6:49:00 PMwe reimage most machines before using them anyway, so pre-installed OS is not relevant; OTOH, one advantage of a preinstalled system would be a guarantee that all hardware is compatible and can function with linux. But not enough of a big deal in the big picture
266.10/17/2007 6:50:00 PMStill hard to use, for example settings up something eqvivlent to Active directory.
267.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMLack of vendor's support, poor software integration with current software in use.
268.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMWe don't care about pre-installed desktops but pre-installed is an indicator of availability of drivers. Right now we deploy our own Windows or Linux flavor on all systems regardless of what the vendor pre-installed. We don't want pre-installed hardware we want hardware it's easy to install our generic system version on.
269.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMManagement resistance due to perceived issues with Linux.
270.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMWe can imagine using Linux on PC used in warehouses where php applications are needed only. But this is minor number of computers which may increase our cost on IT staff.
271.10/17/2007 6:53:00 PMRequired software for daily production is only available in Windows.
272.10/17/2007 6:54:00 PMTo dumb. We have free DBs, why not use a good RDDBM on a Desktop. The differentiation between server and Desktop is just idiotic. Use the best tools to get the job done, otherwise go and use some other OS where there are 10 different versions and licensing schemes.
273.10/17/2007 6:56:00 PMBecause most generic pre-installed products include software that I don't need.
274.10/17/2007 6:59:00 PMStill not widespread enough for users and customers to recognise it as a viable option...
275.10/17/2007 7:00:00 PMThey don't provide any advantage relative to the existing capabilities of the current IT staff with existing non pre-installed products.
276.10/17/2007 7:01:00 PM-
277.10/17/2007 7:03:00 PMNeed in specific features of diff. distributions. And possibility to control in an easy way (like Slackware).
278.10/17/2007 7:03:00 PMprice
279.10/17/2007 7:06:00 PMDon't want pre-installed, want hardware we can put our distro choice on
280.10/17/2007 7:07:00 PMI personally have none but I am a small voice in the winds of change.
281.10/17/2007 7:07:00 PMnothing special, just own harddisk, partitions, devices etc. and own desktop applications, test releases (eg. Fedora test releases)
282.10/17/2007 7:08:00 PMnot userfriendly
283.10/17/2007 7:08:00 PMDon't know of any that exist and are relevant to our organization
284.10/17/2007 7:09:00 PMAlready hooked up on Microsoft system...
285.10/17/2007 7:10:00 PMGeneric issue: There is: A. A very large user base of MS Office and compatible software (eg software that uses MS Word libraries for exporting data in .doc or .XLS format) B. A lot of commercial closed source ERP suites based on MS Windows clients, servers and databases, which are much more capable than open source equivalents (eg Compiere ERP &amp; CRM). In other words: There aren't any good L i n u x B u s i n e s s A p l l i c a t i o n s
286.10/17/2007 7:12:00 PMdell with its linux is not an option if u compare it to large store's promotions with pc's with windows preinstalled
287.10/17/2007 7:12:00 PMSoftware compability, Adobe, Autodesk, etc
288.10/17/2007 7:12:00 PMThe lack of some basic programs which would be needed for our business.
289.10/17/2007 7:13:00 PMI think we rather would like to deploy standardized desktop environments to all desktops, including only the applications we have choosen. Better automatic install methods and global PC and application management solutions with easy to use interfaces are needed.
290.10/17/2007 7:13:00 PMPrefer installing systems ourselves due to customization requirements.
291.10/17/2007 7:18:00 PMnothing special
292.10/17/2007 7:19:00 PMLack of control over the preinstalled environment -- works better to just replicate a known-working environment to cut down on admin time.
293.10/17/2007 7:19:00 PMHow do I choose between Ubuntu on Dell, HP on RH and Novel/Suse on Lenovo? My adminstartion buys Lenovo...but hates SuSe...so we are stuck!
294.10/17/2007 7:19:00 PMWe would probably choose one of them, but personally I like it more when I'm in control of the installation process (so I know every little piece of that system through documentation)
295.10/17/2007 7:20:00 PMLack of applications.
296.10/17/2007 7:23:00 PMIt is easier for us to do quick installs using FAI/PXEBoot with our customizations.
297.10/17/2007 7:23:00 PMSave Ubuntu/Dell, I refuse to deal with anyone who acknowledges the implied threat from Microsoft.
298.10/17/2007 7:25:00 PMWhy pre-install a commercial (read, profit-driven) product when a community-governed distribution (Debian) is available? It has had a dozen years of mission consistency, opposed to the fits and starts of the profiteering organizations (including Linux Foundation, which pays its governance obscene salaries)
299.10/17/2007 7:26:00 PMThey are fine but not enough to convince people to use Linux desktop when the applications in Linux are not up to the ease of use of Office.
300.10/17/2007 7:26:00 PMcompatibilty with exchange servers and related stuff
301.10/17/2007 7:26:00 PMThis is not important. OS installation is the least time consuming activity, so it doesn't matter whether it is pre-installed or not.
302.10/17/2007 7:27:00 PMLack of availability/choice in our area. No need in them, we can deploy everything on our own on existing hardware.
303.10/17/2007 7:27:00 PMNone
304.10/17/2007 7:28:00 PMNot secure/upto date enough, missing critical packages
305.10/17/2007 7:30:00 PMIt's not Mac
306.10/17/2007 7:31:00 PMSpecial Hardware Requierements
307.10/17/2007 7:33:00 PMNone
308.10/17/2007 7:33:00 PMI want to learn everything about Linux and setup my system by myself (so i know how it works, why it works like that and how much i can trust it).
309.10/17/2007 7:35:00 PMMost common Linux distributions are somewhat bloated due to over-use of external libraries. Most distributions that we have tried suffers from package-dependencies. So choosing the applications/libraries that we might need usually ends up with a setup that includes, for example, 3-4 mail clients. And a abundance of applications and libraries that are really never used.
310.10/17/2007 7:36:00 PMWe have the relevant knowledge to build pre-installed environments
311.10/17/2007 7:38:00 PMNo issues.. no need..
312.10/17/2007 7:38:00 PMNo need, In house installation on our own hardware is the norm.
313.10/17/2007 7:38:00 PMWe have already customized a Ubuntu Installation for our in-house needs. This gives us the full control over the installed OS.
314.10/17/2007 7:39:00 PMNone
315.10/17/2007 7:40:00 PMthe stuff that i clicked before
316.10/17/2007 7:42:00 PMNone. Cio is simply married to MS
317.10/17/2007 7:42:00 PMPrefer to build and configure hareware depending specific for the implementaion. Pre-installed laptops are on the other hand very much preferred
318.10/17/2007 7:43:00 PMThe vendors seems to focus on ONE distribution and in our casi sin't that the one that is standard in the company.
319.10/17/2007 7:46:00 PMwe want to choose
320.10/17/2007 7:46:00 PMSupported life of the OS is shorter than the supported life of the hardware. Need OS support that is at least as long as Microsoft Windows XP.
321.10/17/2007 7:47:00 PMWe know very well what features we need and don't wish to have someone else pre-install things we won't use anyway.
322.10/17/2007 7:48:00 PMNO guarantee of no MS Tax
323.10/17/2007 7:51:00 PMPresumed compatibility issues
324.10/17/2007 7:51:00 PMWe custom build all operating system images.
325.10/17/2007 7:51:00 PMCOST!
326.10/17/2007 7:53:00 PMWe use plain Debian in most cases, and this is not yet available as pre-install.
327.10/17/2007 7:53:00 PMWe have our own.
328.10/17/2007 7:55:00 PMthey are preinstalled and we build/use in-house products
329.10/17/2007 7:55:00 PMlack of similar linux programs to windows programs
330.10/17/2007 7:55:00 PMUsers doesn&#180;t know how to use it. Incompability with their computers &quot;at home&quot;.
331.10/17/2007 7:57:00 PMour major database needs to be able to run on all computers
332.10/17/2007 7:59:00 PMIf there where ONE distrubution to choose from i.e. windows, mac OS x AND Linux we would prob. run some machines on linux.
333.10/17/2007 8:02:00 PMCost
334.10/17/2007 8:02:00 PMNot available in New Zealand. Must come with the right Linux distribution (Ubuntu/Debian).
335.10/17/2007 8:02:00 PMWe mostly use windows...
336.10/17/2007 8:03:00 PMwe can install this ourself =)
337.10/17/2007 8:03:00 PMPre-installed Linux offerings have no impact on our Windows vs Linux decision for desktops. Installing either OS is trivial.
338.10/17/2007 8:04:00 PMnot a problem with them, would rather install/configure myself for best fit. Also I am not a corporate user, a lot of these questions are off track
339.10/17/2007 8:05:00 PMLack of (inital) customization.
340.10/17/2007 8:07:00 PMLack of choice, plus that one might have to reinstall later, and then pre-installed OS doesn't matter.
341.10/17/2007 8:11:00 PMLack of support for Point Of Sale hardware (Cashier, barcode reader, touchscreen etc)
342.10/17/2007 8:12:00 PMGames wont work under linux, thats a major obstacle.
343.10/17/2007 8:17:00 PMAs written above... there is no need to have a pre-installed free linux OS, since German universities does not have to pay for MS-licences !!!!!
344.10/17/2007 8:17:00 PMCustomization of standard desktop distros is easier in long term usage. Desktop's must also be more modern and fancier and will be more often updated for non-business reasons.
345.10/17/2007 8:17:00 PMNot available in New Zealand is one. The install would be customized in the IT shop anyway. May as well do an install from an image there.
346.10/17/2007 8:20:00 PMWe have to so so much configuration anyway so we earn time by using our own pre-made images.
347.10/17/2007 8:23:00 PMnon, it's just easy to make and install an inhouse installation/image.
348.10/17/2007 8:23:00 PMwe are an engineering company and always have different requirements for every engineer. Basically they are project dependent
349.10/17/2007 8:26:00 PMInflexibility
350.10/17/2007 8:29:00 PMHave a standard install. There is no major issue with the pre-installed image, except that it is not the standard install.
351.10/17/2007 8:32:00 PMWe have no issue with pre-installed Linux products, we have no *need* for pre-installed Linux products.
352.10/17/2007 8:33:00 PMDistribution
353.10/17/2007 8:34:00 PMOur audio editing systems our somewhat modified and built for us by a local company.
354.10/17/2007 8:36:00 PMLack of training for average Joe user.
355.10/17/2007 8:38:00 PMWe have enough in-house expertise to install and mangage Linux desktops, therefore we do not need preinstalled products.
356.10/17/2007 8:39:00 PMI really do not know. There were no this option.
357.10/17/2007 8:41:00 PMI don't have a strong opinion against them per se. Mostly I don't see the point. Installation of a regular distribution just isn't that hard.
358.10/17/2007 8:42:00 PMStock loads would still need to be customized. We even wipe pre-loaded windows and reload/configure our own version.
359.10/17/2007 8:43:00 PMThey are to complex
360.10/17/2007 8:46:00 PMNot sure about vendors support in the long run. Still not uncommon for pre-installed products to require unsupported / non-free drivers.
361.10/17/2007 8:47:00 PMnone
362.10/17/2007 8:50:00 PMPre-installed linux is usually very 'generalized' and I personally prefer to install the OS myself in order to customize it the way I want it.
363.10/17/2007 8:51:00 PMI am experienced with RedHat product ( Fedora), do not want to change distro.
364.10/17/2007 8:55:00 PMLack of software
365.10/17/2007 8:57:00 PMNothing really. We deploy linux distributions ourselves.
366.10/17/2007 8:59:00 PMDells quality.
367.10/17/2007 9:00:00 PMNo major issues, can install any OS myself.
368.10/17/2007 9:09:00 PMCompany has only recently splashed out on Windows desktops.
369.10/17/2007 9:13:00 PMIts a problem with the company adopting it as a Corporate standard, as it is not yet deemed to be able to provides ALL of the tools (or equivalents) to those used on Windows (and more importantly able to integrate with Windows).
370.10/17/2007 9:15:00 PMWe do not typically purchase from these outlets.
371.10/17/2007 9:16:00 PMThe problem is not wether it i spre installed or not Windows is routinely updated from XP home to pro or Vista home to ultimate (We got 900 free updates to vista ultimate, no doubt vredited as Vista sales). The main problem lies in technical staff, most of whom barely is able to support Windows. how on earth do anyone think that these guys would look positive on a change??? They'll do anythong to discredit anything that is not a MS product.
372.10/17/2007 9:16:00 PMNoting really, just would prefer to do all installations in house on bare bones systems.
373.10/17/2007 9:17:00 PMOur linux users like freedom by choosing their own desktop setup (windowmanager, mail tools etc.) So pre-installed environment is not needed for our company.
374.10/17/2007 9:18:00 PMour company is using for its operations majorly self developed applications. so it is difficult to port them to linux easily and what is also critical in time
375.10/17/2007 9:17:00 PMLittle to no Hardware Choice.
376.10/17/2007 9:21:00 PMour company has even an own windows 'distribution' developed together with microsoft.
377.10/17/2007 9:21:00 PMethernet card does not work with ubuntu. no good printer driver is available for Samsung CLP-300.
378.10/17/2007 9:22:00 PMIt's good with preinstalled products, bu we like to install them ourselves
379.10/17/2007 9:22:00 PMLimited possibilities for customization.
380.10/17/2007 9:25:00 PMit can contain anything (e.g. a rootkit)
381.10/17/2007 9:26:00 PMAll other things being equal except for price, identical speced machines with windows pre-installed is less expensive on the average. It is simply cheaper to buy with MS and then remove and replace with linux.
382.10/17/2007 9:26:00 PMWe don't buy RTR computers...
383.10/17/2007 9:29:00 PMA company still needs to configure a desktop to fit their needs, including JAVA support, proprietary graphics drivers (if necessary), applications, desktop shortcuts, etc.
384.10/17/2007 9:31:00 PMManagements reluctance to try
385.10/17/2007 9:32:00 PMWe make our own distribution upon RedHat. For all of our users, there is to made the right decision to give them the right programm. We, as the company, have to support our customers because we are the one, who are the first contact. So our HOTLINE must have to know the programms well.
386.10/17/2007 9:39:00 PMNone exists for our business needs (computer graphics).
387.10/17/2007 9:43:00 PMNone
388.10/17/2007 9:45:00 PMmsoffice
389.10/17/2007 9:46:00 PMOther than assurance of hardware support, I don't see the value.
390.10/17/2007 9:48:00 PMNo issues, we just prefer doing it ourselves.
391.10/17/2007 9:51:00 PMdon't care about pre-installations
392.10/17/2007 9:51:00 PMUnnecessary; installation of Linux is not difficult on modern distros. Rather get a cheap version of another OS with purchase and duel boot to primary Linux partition. Afterall, Linux is free.
393.10/17/2007 9:53:00 PMThese does not meet 100% our business requirements.
394.10/17/2007 9:59:00 PMTheyfocuson&quot;real&quot;users.Ibasicallywant&quot;cashier&quot;machines,completelylockeddownwithverybasicGUIetc.Wewouldprobablyconsultanexternalexperttorollourownbasedonsomebigdistribution.
395.10/17/2007 10:01:00 PMWe often need dual boot with Windows and Linux
396.10/17/2007 10:02:00 PMWe do it better ourselves, making images after configuration.. It's not preventing us from anything, but we don't need it, and it would not be a timesaver.
397.10/17/2007 10:06:00 PMNo real issues. We can manage installation ourselves, and we do some custom configuration that makes it easier to just have ready-to-install images.
398.10/17/2007 10:06:00 PMVendors need to support Linux regardless of Linux distribution, with full support for all of their hardware. Shipping on one or two laptops/desktops isn't enough
399.10/17/2007 10:07:00 PMConfiguring and software installation
400.10/17/2007 10:08:00 PMNot available through our dealer channel.
401.10/17/2007 10:14:00 PMAll installation is done in-house.
402.10/17/2007 10:18:00 PMWe build our system from base system (distros) installation, and skip lots of not neccessary things (packages) from distros...
403.10/17/2007 10:25:00 PMFedora installation works fine. We need ability to dual-boot to Windows.
404.10/17/2007 10:28:00 PM?
405.10/17/2007 10:32:00 PMSoftware compability is more important
406.10/17/2007 10:33:00 PMLack of laguageconfiguration
407.10/17/2007 10:37:00 PMnothing really works 100% and to many optional apps.....4 g00ds sake decide!
408.10/17/2007 10:38:00 PMour line of business is very specific and there are only half a dozen vendors providing suitable CAT tools
409.10/17/2007 10:38:00 PMI prefer to build from the ground up, customizing each system as per its specific needs. A pre-install simply isn't necessary.
410.10/17/2007 10:41:00 PMWe already have hardware, so we just need the operating system.
411.10/17/2007 10:43:00 PMThey are not configured in an optimal way
412.10/17/2007 10:45:00 PMWe need customization anyhow
413.10/17/2007 10:47:00 PMWe will customize internally.
414.10/17/2007 10:47:00 PMstandard Linux distros work fine
415.10/17/2007 10:55:00 PMThere are no issues with preinstalled products that will prevent us from using it, but I don't see us using Linux, preinstalled or not. Not that I don't want to use Linux, but I don't think it will happen.
416.10/17/2007 10:56:00 PMTraining the support/help desk personnel and training end users to use it.
417.10/17/2007 10:58:00 PMConfiguration
418.10/17/2007 10:59:00 PMWe procure white box machines and install the OS in house.
419.10/17/2007 10:59:00 PMWe always deploy our own builds
420.10/17/2007 11:00:00 PMMeeting our organizations requirements. We use mirrored disks and LVM as standard, and find pre-installed desktops traditionally don't deploy these.
421.10/17/2007 11:10:00 PMcompany policy prevents the use of systems installed by other than own staff
422.10/17/2007 11:11:00 PMLack of flexibility
423.10/17/2007 11:16:00 PMAll students have a laptot by there own, and giving them one with linux pre-installed would require training for all new students.
424.10/17/2007 11:19:00 PMWe build our own computers. And we load what software we want.
425.10/17/2007 11:21:00 PMThere is no need Linux is easy enough to install anyway.
426.10/17/2007 11:23:00 PMNo issues with pre-installed products, just the our organisation will be installing their own configured image anyway.
427.10/17/2007 11:31:00 PMNot applicable
428.10/17/2007 11:36:00 PMLack of availability of localized (Japanese) versions
429.10/17/2007 11:40:00 PMFlexibility and customized installations and configurations
430.10/17/2007 11:46:00 PMNot so many distros/desktop environment to choos from
431.10/17/2007 11:46:00 PMDistribution selection
432.10/17/2007 11:50:00 PMn/a
433.10/17/2007 11:53:00 PMI'm a hardcore Hardened Gentoo user and I prefer to install my own desktop.
434.10/17/2007 11:55:00 PMNever been a fan of pre-installed systems..
435.10/17/2007 11:56:00 PMNot being able to select whatever dist i like..
436.10/18/2007 12:01:00 AMCost, availability, customisability
437.10/18/2007 12:07:00 AMNo need for this organization.
438.10/18/2007 12:19:00 AMI like to roll my own. I know what's in it.
439.10/18/2007 12:20:00 AMNot Gentoo based.
440.10/18/2007 12:23:00 AMWe make the installation of our own configured system.
441.10/18/2007 12:26:00 AMwrong distributions
442.10/18/2007 12:36:00 AMWe are able to install them for myself
443.10/18/2007 12:44:00 AMNo need. We install our own.
444.10/18/2007 12:53:00 AMno need to have it pre-installed
445.10/18/2007 12:55:00 AMWe prefer the flexibility and cost structure of Debian GNU/Linux.
446.10/18/2007 12:57:00 AMcost
447.10/18/2007 1:00:00 AM1)Trust. It could come with a rootkit (we don't use pre-installed Windows either) 2)We generally prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu.
448.10/18/2007 1:05:00 AMYou don't know what you are getting. Is full documentation on what they have done for setup and non-binary drivers available? Security is important. If they did provide everything - how do you verify what they say is true?
449.10/18/2007 1:22:00 AMInstalling Linux is easy, and anyway need to apply local customization so we don't see much need of having it preinstalled.
450.10/18/2007 1:23:00 AMWe want to install ourselves.
451.10/18/2007 1:25:00 AMWe require heavy customisation of our environment
452.10/18/2007 1:28:00 AMNone
453.10/18/2007 1:31:00 AMWe have no issue with pre-installed systems, per se, but we would develop our own inhouse build of Linux rather than use an off-the-shelf solution.
454.10/18/2007 1:32:00 AMWrong distributions. We like (pure) Debian, and very few hardware vendors offer Debian 4.0-based solutions. As for our needs, RedHat, SuSE and other more commonly available pre-installed Linux distros tend to shift the focus from OS stability/simplicity to OS GUI overkill - and we don't want those &quot;Windowsified&quot; Linux versions...
455.10/18/2007 1:41:00 AMwe need customization anyway
456.10/18/2007 1:46:00 AMWe prefer to control all installations.
457.10/18/2007 1:52:00 AMmany of our applications don't work with linux
458.10/18/2007 1:58:00 AMWe can do it ourselves.
459.10/18/2007 2:04:00 AMMost of them only offer ubuntu, there are no other choices.
460.10/18/2007 2:05:00 AMI just generally prefer setting a workstation up myself, mostly since that's the way it's always been done. No &quot;issues&quot; with pre-installed, per se.
461.10/18/2007 2:07:00 AMI want build my linux box myself. Settting up pre-installed products to my taste is time wasting.
462.10/18/2007 2:07:00 AMThey are not sufficiently customized for our needs.
463.10/18/2007 2:11:00 AMDon't need them
464.10/18/2007 2:12:00 AMnot configured according to needs or best management
465.10/18/2007 2:24:00 AMPHB's believe in MS Office, I need to demonstrate VSD and MPP compatibility. Then secure-by-default needs to meet with trust-me in the management tools, so we can educate the users.
466.10/18/2007 2:27:00 AMNothing pre-installed on in house custom built whiteboxes
467.10/18/2007 2:28:00 AMTaste difference between the pre-installers and ourselves.
468.10/18/2007 2:28:00 AMWe have existing hardware.
469.10/18/2007 2:33:00 AMCustomization
470.10/18/2007 2:35:00 AMInstalling Linux is not a problem in our company, so there is no need for pre-install desktops for us.
471.10/18/2007 2:35:00 AMThe pre-installed distributions don't yet meet our needs. We have to redo enough that its easier just to copy or script a custom install on all systems.
472.10/18/2007 2:39:00 AMNone. I will consider one when the time comes to upgrade my laptop, but until then, I'll just use a distribution that I install myself.
473.10/18/2007 2:39:00 AMThe don't come with a windows license key. Linux pre-installed systems costs just as much as a windows system, yet I can D/L a copy of Linux for free and install it, but cant do the same with Windows. Makes more sense to buy the windows version, save the key and install linux on your own. This way you get more for you money
474.10/18/2007 2:55:00 AMI already have a PC and don't need another one (yet). When I do replace, it will be with high-end AMD gear, which (apparently) does not yet come as pre-install.
475.10/18/2007 2:58:00 AMcompatibility with our inhouse applications.
476.10/18/2007 3:00:00 AMWhat distro? EG: Dell uses Ubunto, but we're using Fedora / CentOS. Preinstall, then, offers little benefit.
477.10/18/2007 3:27:00 AMI don't know what they are
478.10/18/2007 3:32:00 AMPropietary hardware and driver support. Limited choice of Linux distributions. Limited ability to upgrade hardware.
479.10/18/2007 3:36:00 AMDistribution choices, and their current fascination with binary video drivers
480.10/18/2007 3:52:00 AMtoo few to choose
481.10/18/2007 4:01:00 AMThere are too many ways to customize a Linux installation and a prepackaged version rarely matches closely enough to make it worth while. It's just easier to build the machines ourselves.
482.10/18/2007 4:24:00 AMNo issues
483.10/18/2007 4:28:00 AMNo point. I'm going to drop in a CD/DVD when I first turn it on. The installation process is automated by pre-seeding.
484.10/18/2007 4:52:00 AMease of procurement / availability
485.10/18/2007 4:52:00 AMLimited compatibility with ms exchange/office
486.10/18/2007 4:53:00 AMDon't need them.
487.10/18/2007 5:00:00 AMUnnecessary bloatage that would fault our development. Its not much, but we like a clean machine (slackware) to dev on.
488.10/18/2007 5:01:00 AMGood documentation and localization
489.10/18/2007 5:06:00 AMMissing applications.
490.10/18/2007 5:09:00 AMinternal resource constraints
491.10/18/2007 5:11:00 AMInsufficient level of customization
492.10/18/2007 5:36:00 AMNo issues, just prefer to install ourselves.
493.10/18/2007 5:43:00 AMSame ass all other questions
494.10/18/2007 5:44:00 AMIt's not fully customizable.
495.10/18/2007 5:48:00 AMThey are not selling in Russia
496.10/18/2007 5:51:00 AM-
497.10/18/2007 5:51:00 AMFear of change
498.10/18/2007 6:01:00 AMlow-end hardware specifications
499.10/18/2007 6:01:00 AMThey are not available on my local area, they are not available for the needed hardware models, they still need better peripheral support.
500.10/18/2007 6:03:00 AMwe reinstall the OS as company policy
501.10/18/2007 6:10:00 AMIntegration with existing infrastructure, wrong distribution. Must be included in governmental frame agreement, in Sweden called Verva.
502.10/18/2007 6:11:00 AMLinux itself. Many really special program we need are just for windows and rather complex. We can't gurantee stability under linux...
503.10/18/2007 6:16:00 AMMissing customization
504.10/18/2007 6:20:00 AMThey can't come trimmed and tailored to our needs.
505.10/18/2007 6:24:00 AMNone, I've always installed my own Linux.
506.10/18/2007 6:26:00 AMHave enough computers right now, waiting for Linux version of my applications
507.10/18/2007 6:26:00 AMWe must pre install by our selves these machines.
508.10/18/2007 6:31:00 AMThe lack of customisation
509.10/18/2007 6:44:00 AMSo long i have heard that those are mainly based on ubuntu that doesn't meet our plans.. We install our linux desktops ourself..
510.10/18/2007 6:45:00 AMCan't cursomize the installation with *our* tools in an easy way. It's often easyer to install everything from scratch.
511.10/18/2007 6:56:00 AMnone
512.10/18/2007 6:56:00 AMClumsy and buggy configuration. To much preconfigured. To much nonsens in the UI.
513.10/18/2007 6:58:00 AMThere is no need for preinstalled products because our IT Department customizes the PCs from scratch
514.10/18/2007 7:02:00 AMwe'd prefer to install same distro on all machines, so if new machines gonna be with another distro, than what we use - we'll just wipe it out, and install windows or ubuntu on it.
515.10/18/2007 7:06:00 AMNothing. Our staff install the OSs.
516.10/18/2007 7:09:00 AMNone, the installation of linux already is simple enough that we buy computers without os and install it ourselves.
517.10/18/2007 7:11:00 AMnot customized
518.10/18/2007 7:14:00 AMtraining and deployment costs
519.10/18/2007 7:14:00 AMCost, selection, customization
520.10/18/2007 7:15:00 AMConfiguration
521.10/18/2007 7:15:00 AMChoice of distributions offered, price (is cheaper to build system).
522.10/18/2007 7:16:00 AMNone, really. Same issues with self-installed.
523.10/18/2007 7:16:00 AMWe have our own needs that pre-installed products does not meet. It is easier to install it for ourselves.
524.10/18/2007 7:17:00 AMThe hardware. The best-known offering is from Dell, and I'd NEVER buy a Dell computer - they're cheap, because they're made from cheap parts - you get what you pay for, and I need hardware that's RELIABLE!
525.10/18/2007 7:18:00 AMnone, but we build our own
526.10/18/2007 7:18:00 AMNone, but &quot;our organization has been waiting for pre-installed Linux offerings&quot; Is not true.
527.10/18/2007 7:19:00 AMNo difference in cost for pre-installed vs self-install. Also, less customization is available for pre-installed systems.
528.10/18/2007 7:20:00 AMno question of considering linux. .
529.10/18/2007 7:21:00 AMThere are so few; why hunt for one when I can easily install it myself?
530.10/18/2007 7:23:00 AMWe install via ghost-image.
531.10/18/2007 7:23:00 AMSelf-installing is not a major task - customization is easier
532.10/18/2007 7:28:00 AMNo major issues we can just install for free
533.10/18/2007 7:28:00 AMdriver support, ready applications as replacements for windows apps.
534.10/18/2007 7:29:00 AMThe distribution they are based one. Every pre-installed product must have 2-3 options to choose from on the first boot.
535.10/18/2007 7:29:00 AMIt's not &quot;issues&quot; with them but we have a strict policy about our software environment and it's easier to install a system from scratch that meets our criteria than to review an already installed one. Basically on one hand we have the resources and expertise to handle the task of deploying software environments and on the other hand we do not trust any third party to do this for us.
536.10/18/2007 7:32:00 AMAt work we use ltsp based products like k12ltsp (fedora based) and plan to migrate ubuntu ltsp based distro (edubuntu I guess). Ubuntu is good for personal computers like laptops. additional problems are formats .doc .xls realmedia and windows media formats. Estonian Television (ETV) videoclips in internet are windows media format only.
537.10/18/2007 7:34:00 AMWe generally use the KDE environment and we favour OpenSuSE and Mandriva which is not available preinstalled. (South Africa)
538.10/18/2007 7:36:00 AMThe same a s stated before. It still doesn't run the applications we need.
539.10/18/2007 7:38:00 AMThere are no issues with the pre-installed products. We are aiming towards embedded market.
540.10/18/2007 7:39:00 AMThe problem is not the pre-installed products, we can not buy them as long as the software that is critical to our business does not exist for Linux.
541.10/18/2007 7:40:00 AMspecial needs by workers
542.10/18/2007 7:44:00 AMWell, the two possible answers to the last question didn't really leave any middle ground... Would probably consider getting a pre-installed product, but more likely to get a Windows machine and install a Linux distribution myself for dual-boot.
543.10/18/2007 7:46:00 AMNo interest, our main development line is windows-based currently.
544.10/18/2007 7:46:00 AMActually I haven't evaluated any.
545.10/18/2007 7:46:00 AMNot good enough Service at this moment. No good alternative for Office products. Not good enough compatibility with MS products
546.10/18/2007 7:48:00 AMThey're often clogged up with stuff not needed, I'd rather have a blank computer sent to me and then use a self made hdd image, with the necessary stuff.
547.10/18/2007 7:52:00 AMWe don't require pre-installation, since we can install in-house. Only advantage to a pre-installed system is that it guarantees that all the hardware will work with Linux. For example, we would buy an Ubuntu-Dell because we know it would run Linux properly, but we'd install Mandriva/Zenwalk instead.
548.10/18/2007 7:53:00 AMPre-installed Linux desktop products from major vendors such as Dell are not yet available in our country (Sweden).
549.10/18/2007 7:55:00 AMThey do not apply to our organisation. We need mobile (PDA) devices comparable to Windows Mobile devices with the same level of performance and compatibility.
550.10/18/2007 7:55:00 AMno need
551.10/18/2007 7:56:00 AMNot me, my company. They are using Windows for years, and they don't want to change.
552.10/18/2007 8:01:00 AMOur Infrastrukture is heterogeneous, we rarely replace hardware and have a small budget. We don't see advantages in infrequent integrated pre-installed desktops.
553.10/18/2007 8:20:00 AMIn most cases they do not meet our requirements, and we have the skill to do it ourselves.
554.10/18/2007 8:26:00 AMnever heard about them
555.10/18/2007 8:29:00 AMhardware compatibility
556.10/18/2007 8:38:00 AM1. management's mind set 2. our main business application does not work properly on linux+wine
557.10/18/2007 8:39:00 AMInternal requirements
558.10/18/2007 8:44:00 AMI don't want Ubuntu, Red Hat or SuSE, I want to chose distribution for myself.
559.10/18/2007 8:54:00 AMWe need re-customize desktops anyway.
560.10/18/2007 8:55:00 AMCurrent management philosophies
561.10/18/2007 8:56:00 AMswitching isn't a matter of preinstalled linux availability, see my previous answers
562.10/18/2007 8:59:00 AMHistorical reasons. Windows were the first platform and very difficult to integrate it to Linux :(
563.10/18/2007 9:08:00 AMnone
564.10/18/2007 9:09:00 AMwrong dist
565.10/18/2007 9:14:00 AMnot flexible enough and over priced.
566.10/18/2007 9:14:00 AMNo issues. We only have no plans for buying Linux pre-installed machines. We can only install Linux on our existing machines if applications we use in Windows are available in Linux.
567.10/18/2007 9:16:00 AMWe prefer Debian distribution.
568.10/18/2007 9:19:00 AMWe need such special applications and often we need to reinstall everything from scratch, that the idea of buying preinstalled systems is just not practical. Unless the vendor would configure and install our special software also.
569.10/18/2007 9:31:00 AMLack of availible quality preinstalled linux distros in our country
570.10/18/2007 9:35:00 AMNot too flexible
571.10/18/2007 9:36:00 AMpre installed has to come with a compatible distribution - nowadays ubuntu seems to be the only available option. I did not yet see a laptop comeing with opensuse. a comprehensive set of drivers or 100% hardware support by a standard distribution would be completely ok. just sell these things without pre-installed vista!
572.10/18/2007 9:41:00 AMNot enough stability
573.10/18/2007 9:58:00 AMWe use SuSE and openSuSE
574.10/18/2007 10:00:00 AMprobably our IT department finds it easier to install and configure linux themselves
575.10/18/2007 10:05:00 AMIn a bank the admins have to install everything from scratch, controlling the whole process.
576.10/18/2007 10:08:00 AMsoftware compatibility
577.10/18/2007 10:13:00 AMadditional cost - we install ourselves
578.10/18/2007 10:19:00 AMnot always up to date
579.10/18/2007 10:23:00 AMDon't know any vendor except Dell who sells Linux. Dell is very expensive and does not fit our needs. Also Ubuntu is not that great.
580.10/18/2007 10:26:00 AMI like to choose the distribution myself.
581.10/18/2007 10:30:00 AMI can do it myself, as i want, and those distros that i want.
582.10/18/2007 10:32:00 AMNeed more dist to choose from
583.10/18/2007 10:41:00 AMcan't trust in those
584.10/18/2007 10:49:00 AMExperience with pre-installed products indicate they are usually poorly configured and don't match environment requirements.
585.10/18/2007 10:57:00 AMEase of use
586.10/18/2007 11:06:00 AMLack of flexibility in adapting the product to a wide range of user needs
587.10/18/2007 11:07:00 AMMostly they do not come with the flavour of linux (Gentoo) we are using and so desktop administration is harder due to inhomogenious linux environment.
588.10/18/2007 11:12:00 AMIt can&#180;t run the applications we need.
589.10/18/2007 11:35:00 AMnone
590.10/18/2007 11:39:00 AMPrefer to build our own hardware to suit our needs using commercial hardware.
591.10/18/2007 11:50:00 AMcorporate standards enforcement
592.10/18/2007 11:52:00 AMI like only the software installed I use and not other stuff as well
593.10/18/2007 11:53:00 AMthere are too few choices of hardware that comes with pre-installed linux
594.10/18/2007 12:03:00 PMI see hardly any such products over here
595.10/18/2007 12:06:00 PMtoo bloated
596.10/18/2007 12:07:00 PMNo issues, I'd just rather install myself.
597.10/18/2007 12:08:00 PMSecurity Settings
598.10/18/2007 12:11:00 PMUnlikely to be at the bleeding edge that our desktop users need
599.10/18/2007 12:15:00 PMspeed flexibility
600.10/18/2007 12:16:00 PMAbility to interconnect with existing applications/hardware available on the netwrork, requiring and integration between distribution specific setup software.
601.10/18/2007 12:17:00 PMAs this is a large organization, we are pretty concerned about the integration of the desktops within the general infrastructure (domain, mail, servers, etc). Most likely we would run a custom packaged Linux based on SLED or Ubuntu with all the settings in place (authentication, browser settings, etc). Also, I wouldn't trust a pre-installed linux for home usage. Considering the experience of all the trial crap and spyware which come bundled with Windows; I wouldn't trust manufacturers not to include some crap on Linux. And since the usual distro has few hundrades packages installed by default; scanning the installed packages for crap would be more difficult than on Windows. Also, there might be &quot;usual&quot; packages which wouldn't look suspicious with crappy configs. But I totally support pre-installed Linux on desktops; it gives me the confidence that the hardware support is ok in linux; and there was some beta testing before.
602.10/18/2007 12:26:00 PMlimited choice of options
603.10/18/2007 12:27:00 PMOur CAD applications (vectorworks) is not available on linux yet.
604.10/18/2007 12:28:00 PM* migration of &quot;internet explorer 6&quot; optimized web applications * training for office products * reading existing word and excel documents
605.10/18/2007 12:30:00 PMWell... it&#180;s not Windows. Our management is pretty thick headed about going down the Windows road. It makes you wanna cry...
606.10/18/2007 12:32:00 PMLack of application support, overly complex, differences between different distros
607.10/18/2007 12:34:00 PMPrefer to self-install.
608.10/18/2007 12:34:00 PMGentoo/Linux is better build from source ;-)
609.10/18/2007 12:35:00 PMSome programs don't run under linux, like MathCAD 13/14. These programs use .NET, which isn't compatible with wine.
610.10/18/2007 12:35:00 PMTo many not needed things. The typical Windowslike put everything on the pc you can get
611.10/18/2007 12:35:00 PMCost of hardware. Choosing hardware withou OS and installing it by ourself is much cheaper in our case.
612.10/18/2007 12:39:00 PMOur customers are not asking for it.
613.10/18/2007 12:40:00 PMNormally these offerings are limited to a specific distribution and to only a small number of different hardware systems. Also, our company has a internal default install to keep all computers identical. I have never seen the option to buy a computer with a set of software that is definable by the customer.
614.10/18/2007 12:41:00 PMThey are mostly okay, but not really tailored to my company's needs. Hence, they are not really too much of a help.
615.10/18/2007 12:42:00 PMThere are no issues which preventing us from using such pre-installed products.
616.10/18/2007 12:43:00 PMThey lack customization
617.10/18/2007 12:44:00 PMClosed firmware
618.10/18/2007 12:45:00 PMto many unused stuff are exist in the pre-installed products
619.10/18/2007 12:47:00 PMNone. We roll our own. Preinstalled may be fine if it comes with the right distro. Blank is ok. But driver support is essential! So this helps
620.10/18/2007 12:49:00 PMPreinstalling anything discriminates others
621.10/18/2007 12:49:00 PMhardware issues
622.10/18/2007 12:52:00 PMManagement not interested in pursuing it. I'm certainly ready to trial them myself.
623.10/18/2007 12:53:00 PMOur organization suffers from &quot;not invented here&quot; syndrome. If it's not invented here, it isn't worth much.
624.10/18/2007 12:54:00 PMDifferent user's different needs, someones uses latest Ubuntu, someones like to use RHEL with our corporate applications added
625.10/18/2007 12:54:00 PMPre-installation not an issue, our company just produces MS-based software.
626.10/18/2007 12:55:00 PMno idea, yet
627.10/18/2007 12:56:00 PMdon't know
628.10/18/2007 12:57:00 PMNo benefits and less choice. We have the technical capacity to install Linux onto computers. Our issues are with 3rd party applications we are locked into
629.10/18/2007 12:57:00 PMOld windows user
630.10/18/2007 12:59:00 PMHardware support for some special hardware
631.10/18/2007 12:59:00 PMno need for it
632.10/18/2007 1:00:00 PMNo real issues. We're rather likely to roll out a custom version of some established distribution (most likely Ubuntu or Debian) to our machines.
633.10/18/2007 1:01:00 PMWe would like to decide what Software is running on the Computers, so we've our own Image.
634.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMTo many Inhouse aplications that run so for under Windows
635.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMCustomers need applications running under windows since they don't exist for GNU/Linux at all and don't work with any products, i.e. running them with the help of Wine/Crossover.
636.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMPerception. Retraining.
637.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMWe prefer manual installation on our servers and we mostly have thinclients for the desktop.
638.10/18/2007 1:03:00 PMmissing windows application
639.10/18/2007 1:08:00 PMi dont mind
640.10/18/2007 1:08:00 PMEveryone here is so technical and wants things his/her way, it's silly to buy them. The first thing everyone does is nuke the install and do it &quot;the right way&quot;
641.10/18/2007 1:09:00 PMWhy bother to get a pre-installed product. People are used to use a distro they have been using for ages and there is not point in forcing them to use something else.
642.10/18/2007 1:16:00 PMUbuntu is not suitable for business critical work.
643.10/18/2007 1:16:00 PMIt's easier to assemble a system ourselfes and install GNU/Linux on it than buying a preinstalled one.
644.10/18/2007 1:17:00 PM3D Gaming Cart Support....
645.10/18/2007 1:17:00 PMPartitioning and package selection
646.10/18/2007 1:17:00 PM1. Limited hardware configuration to choose from. 2. Additional costs with no justification
647.10/18/2007 1:21:00 PMOur employees installs windows to their computers themselves, so installing linux is not a problem for them (for example with Ubuntu, it's easy enough at the moment).
648.10/18/2007 1:24:00 PMSome special environment, so too many changes needed with pre-installed products
649.10/18/2007 1:25:00 PMLack of critical application support
650.10/18/2007 1:27:00 PMIn-house developed software would not be compatible in a Linux environment
651.10/18/2007 1:27:00 PMdon't like
652.10/18/2007 1:30:00 PMWe can deploy our own systems without any problems. But for other end users the pre-installed products will be a great opportunity to dive in into the world of Linux.
653.10/18/2007 1:31:00 PMWe are planning for remote boot for our next upgrade, thus a computer with or with out OS make no difference to US
654.10/18/2007 1:31:00 PMDo not need new hardware at this time. Otherwise, it would depend on the version of Linux available on the hardware. As long as it is possible to easily partion a disk and do a dual boot, pre-installation is not a requirement. Preferable pre-installation for a client machine would be Ubuntu or Kubuntu, if hardware were needed.
655.10/18/2007 1:31:00 PMWe would have to customize these installations. For us it's only neccessary that we have a good hardware-support and a desktop management solution.
656.10/18/2007 1:32:00 PMHave no idea. Personally, if I got to choose, I'd abolish all M$ crap at my university.
657.10/18/2007 1:33:00 PMWe don't plan to buy new HW in the near future. As system administrator I trust systems that I install &amp; configure.
658.10/18/2007 1:34:00 PMLack of options
659.10/18/2007 1:34:00 PMexotic hardware, multiboot configuration
660.10/18/2007 1:38:00 PMI don't want to loose control and knowledge about the systems i run or administrate
661.10/18/2007 1:38:00 PMsudo=baloney,no root login allowed =baloney.Gnome =useless for us, we use KDE. Ubuntu based=no thanks.
662.10/18/2007 1:39:00 PMFlexibility
663.10/18/2007 1:38:00 PMWe build our own boxes to specs. Pre-installed are usually 'take it or leave it'
664.10/18/2007 1:39:00 PMI myself am a pre-installed Linux vendor.
665.10/18/2007 1:40:00 PMWe haven't find pre-installed product in the redhat like family. It crash with our existing platform (CentOS/Fedora). We don't want a &quot;jungle&quot; of distros in our company.
666.10/18/2007 1:47:00 PMWe use own images/setups with customized stuff
667.10/18/2007 1:48:00 PMIncorrect distro; incorrect selection of packages; untrustworthy; needless, overrated issue.
668.10/18/2007 1:56:00 PMWe prefer to do our own scratch installs for customization purposes. As well, we consider hardware and OS separately when purchasing new equipment, and will purchase hardware based on compatibility but not on preinstall.
669.10/18/2007 1:57:00 PMHard disk encryption and VPN needed for all laptops, which is well supported in Linux but impossible to have pre-installed. This means that we have to have our own images of the operating systems anyway (just like we do for Windows desktops). Also the software selection might have to be quite a lot modified, that really leans towards our own installation images + own management systems.
670.10/18/2007 1:58:00 PMToo expensive for what I need. I am more likely to build a desktop computer or server for a very low sum of money and get exactly what I need than spend extra for things I don't really have a use for, just because Linux is pre-installed.
671.10/18/2007 1:59:00 PMI am able to install the OS by myself. So why should I pay anyone for that?
672.10/18/2007 2:01:00 PMPrefer to configure and install own configuration. Would like to stay with current distro and update it from time to time.
673.10/18/2007 2:01:00 PMUnknown. Basically, we are, unfortunately, a Windows by blinders shop. If it's not Windows it doesn't really exist, does it?
674.10/18/2007 2:04:00 PMThe fact that we sit at a branch of vast network for the City of Stockholm...
675.10/18/2007 2:05:00 PMSelf-Installation may be more comfortable on building the needed infrastructure.
676.10/18/2007 2:07:00 PMCustom corporate environment
677.10/18/2007 2:09:00 PMWe still like to 'roll-our-own' installs. We just need our hardware to work out-of-the-box with vanilla kernel. So, open drivers are crucial to us.
678.10/18/2007 2:16:00 PMThe free choice of the operating system someone wants to run is the basis of our organisation. We ourselves prefer computers without pre-installed OS. Nevertheless pre-installed Linuxes are good to spread it among average users, who don't have much technical knowledge.
679.10/18/2007 2:17:00 PMThe Software, which is installed. We have personalized our software for us. So it's easier for us to use our software on hardware we build ourself
680.10/18/2007 2:20:00 PMThe applications used in House are not available for Linux, but there are Linux equivalent tools, but which do not interact. BAD !
681.10/18/2007 2:25:00 PMWe use white-box PCs, not pre-assembled systems. Also, I have found that while the distributions that ship with pre-assembled systems get the user up and running quickly, they are more difficult for professional users to customise according to their needs; it is generally those experienced with Linux that are asking for Linux desktops at present; these other distributions may be more suitable for average desktop users.
682.10/18/2007 2:27:00 PMFor me, I would choose one, but my organization mostly uses Windows, so switching to it would mot meet our requirements.
683.10/18/2007 2:28:00 PMOur IP guy says it's difficoult to mix Windows and Linux workstations in our company. Has to do with our Lotus notes.
684.10/18/2007 2:29:00 PMcompany not willing to invest
685.10/18/2007 2:32:00 PMSite-wide deployment + management of software
686.10/18/2007 2:32:00 PMstability especially after updates security easy to use VPN
687.10/18/2007 2:32:00 PMThere is no issue. Simply I don't need preinstalled stuff, i can do it myself.
688.10/18/2007 2:35:00 PMNon-standardized approaches to configuration (LSB ignorance). &quot;Locked down&quot; kernels or configurations that prevent modifications.
689.10/18/2007 2:41:00 PMOunr company has its own distribution (a slightly modified Debian) -- Linux is installed here.
690.10/18/2007 2:41:00 PMIt is more time consuming to reconfigure those preinstalled desktops to meet corporate standards than to reinstall.
691.10/18/2007 2:42:00 PMMostly it does not depends on Linux. It depends on the MS working-environment. I would like to use Linux at work, but I can not because all colleges use Windows and MS Office. Open Office has problems with MS-Documents, a lot of details are not right viewing a document created in MS Office.
692.10/18/2007 2:44:00 PMNot enough choice of distros
693.10/18/2007 2:44:00 PMNothing, other than that I'd rather build my own systems. That way, I can get the exact hardware that I want.
694.10/18/2007 2:44:00 PMPrefer to have more control over the install
695.10/18/2007 2:46:00 PMwe dont need them
696.10/18/2007 2:49:00 PMAmount of users and wide scale support in deployment for company IT infra solutions.
697.10/18/2007 2:49:00 PMSpecific hardware.
698.10/18/2007 2:51:00 PMMainly cost - But only in the sense that we mainly use refurbished desktops for client machines. Preinstalled Windows isn't likely to be used either. I do appreciate 'tweaking the install to suit our environment better before deployment anyway.
699.10/18/2007 2:52:00 PMdo not fit into our environment which is based upon kickstart based installation and management by cfengine.
700.10/18/2007 2:53:00 PMThe decision makers have no idea
701.10/18/2007 2:55:00 PMWe dont need pre-installed products.
702.10/18/2007 2:56:00 PMx
703.10/18/2007 2:57:00 PMWe need a cleen environment for critical applications.
704.10/18/2007 2:58:00 PMPre-installed products are not needed because of the automatic installation of the operating sistem and all the needed client software over the local network (PXE).
705.10/18/2007 2:58:00 PMmissing technical applications
706.10/18/2007 3:01:00 PMdifferent configuration an different machines, so we must make a standart on machines. its easier to reinstall
707.10/18/2007 3:02:00 PMBetter integration by self installing
708.10/18/2007 3:08:00 PMWe sell hardware ourself - so we prefer to assemble our own systems for desktop use.
709.10/18/2007 3:08:00 PMWe'd probably need to reinstall our own image anyway...
710.10/18/2007 3:09:00 PMGeneral lack of simple customization tools, problems with mixing pre-installed products from different vendors
711.10/18/2007 3:09:00 PMLinux is not an Option ATM
712.10/18/2007 3:11:00 PMpersonality
713.10/18/2007 3:14:00 PMLack of flexibility
714.10/18/2007 3:17:00 PMLots of insurance business applications are not availlable for Linux
715.10/18/2007 3:19:00 PMThey are pre-installed... It's better to configure your own systems.
716.10/18/2007 3:26:00 PMNo major issues ... just not needed
717.10/18/2007 3:28:00 PMdoesnt fit our needs
718.10/18/2007 3:36:00 PMMicrosoft Exchange interoperability/compatibility
719.10/18/2007 3:37:00 PMwe install ourself always
720.10/18/2007 3:37:00 PMnone
721.10/18/2007 3:43:00 PMThe main advantage would be diskless clients which require no maintainance.
722.10/18/2007 3:43:00 PMPre-installed products are usually built with mid-range quality hardware. In terms of price vs. performance, they definitely get a lower rating. There is also the issue of missing or inadequate drivers even though full support is usually available with Windows from the same vendors.
723.10/18/2007 3:48:00 PMhave no need
724.10/18/2007 3:54:00 PMEverybody has their freedom to choose a distribution an so we're not going to force anyone into using a preinstalled one.
725.10/18/2007 3:57:00 PMLess an issue with these products and more an issue with the backend software support to run this company. Most are windows based. Some have fat clients that do not run in wine or crossover office.
726.10/18/2007 4:00:00 PMGetting Debian from local repository is much easier than waiting for some vendor package some software...
727.10/18/2007 4:06:00 PMindividuell choice
728.10/18/2007 4:07:00 PMNone, however, prefer to build OS on our own.
729.10/18/2007 4:08:00 PMThe need for personalized systems. It&#180;s much faster to choose during the installtion than reconfiguring preinstalled software.
730.10/18/2007 4:08:00 PMWe are using Open Enterprise Server and the need of Novell Client for Linux and configuration. We deploy OS and configuration with ZENWorks Linux Management. Most of the Linux desktops are older machines.
731.10/18/2007 4:09:00 PMOn the wrong hardware!
732.10/18/2007 4:11:00 PMLimited choice of hardware. Limited distro choice.
733.10/18/2007 4:14:00 PMno need for more computers required at this time.
734.10/18/2007 4:15:00 PMWe assemble all on our own
735.10/18/2007 4:16:00 PMThey serve the same purpose as applications we currently use, but are different. It's a matter of culture. When you have middle age employees who can barley manage the basics of applications they have been using for a decade, you're not going to be able to throw a new environment at them and say &quot;No, it has the same capabilities as your previous environment, you just have to re-learn how to do it&quot;. Another issue is cost. Buisnesses have invested a lot of money in Microsoft and Microsoft supported back end software. If Linux doesnt have a Norton antivirus desktop client, now that buisness has to throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars of software. Not going to happen.
736.10/18/2007 4:16:00 PMwe need a customized linux destro, applying an image using PXE boot is a peace of cake what we need is MS office document support and ease of using in open office
737.10/18/2007 4:16:00 PMmaintenance costs
738.10/18/2007 4:18:00 PMThe work required to remove/install the applications we don't/do want
739.10/18/2007 4:18:00 PMWe prefer Mandriva because of their tools for configuration.
740.10/18/2007 4:20:00 PMThere are no issues per se, we just find we get better price/performance elsewhere.
741.10/18/2007 4:20:00 PMWe customize all our OS installations.
742.10/18/2007 4:21:00 PMWe have enough own knowledge to install our linux-systems.
743.10/18/2007 4:21:00 PMIndividual installation isn't that easy to effort for every desktop. Small installation image for every desktop, but it needs to be installed for every desktop and its purposes.
744.10/18/2007 4:21:00 PMI don't know why I need it. I can install and set up the system I want myself. Also, I was going to buy a Dell at one point, but the Linux products weren't any cheaper... so, why bother, get the windows version, then I'll have windows, if the need should arise.
745.10/18/2007 4:26:00 PMThey are not configured with the options/applications that we require.
746.10/18/2007 4:26:00 PMI do it by myself. Installing and configuring.
747.10/18/2007 4:26:00 PMlike to customize the desktop myself
748.10/18/2007 4:30:00 PMWould rather installed Linux OS ourselves to ensure baseline adherence to our company specifications for included packages.
749.10/18/2007 4:31:00 PMCorporate IT structure solidness
750.10/18/2007 4:31:00 PMSelection of distribution - Ubuntu is no enterprise ready
751.10/18/2007 4:33:00 PMCan build them ourselves. And we neeed customized desktop. The fac that a distribution is already installed doesn't help, because we need to customize it, not all the apps installed are needed. Basically, we do a better job on our own.
752.10/18/2007 4:33:00 PMeasy and quick install is already available
753.10/18/2007 4:34:00 PMLinux distribution, configuration, etc...
754.10/18/2007 4:34:00 PMthey appear to be focused on the personal user rather then the business user.
755.10/18/2007 4:36:00 PMWe don't want to be dependent on one vendor.
756.10/18/2007 4:37:00 PMLack of control. Lack of platform optimisation.
757.10/18/2007 4:37:00 PMwe need diskless clients, and do it our own
758.10/18/2007 4:41:00 PMDoesn't match corporate standard
759.10/18/2007 4:42:00 PM-Company is heavily MS Office dependent -Network storage system is incompatible
760.10/18/2007 4:43:00 PMToo inflexible, like to have other distribution.
761.10/18/2007 4:43:00 PMManagement.
762.10/18/2007 4:45:00 PMSchwer zu sagen (ich hoffe, Ihr versteht mich &#252;berhaupt)
763.10/18/2007 4:48:00 PMToo many different types of hardware to support, too much specific configuration would be required. Software dominates the hardware these days, and unfortunately Windows and OS X $$ dominate the driver and compatibility of all the hardware out there.
764.10/18/2007 4:48:00 PMNo major issues as far as I know with the products themselves. Problems lie with the applications.
765.10/18/2007 4:49:00 PMUnfortunately, it's not Windows. As much as I would love to roll out Linux, I am alone in a sea of Windows fans. One of the major issues is compatibility with existing commercial software such as MS Office (despite products such as Crossover).
766.10/18/2007 4:50:00 PMConfigure and many products don't have an gui.
767.10/18/2007 4:51:00 PMCustom software loads / configurations needed.
768.10/18/2007 4:53:00 PMNothing &quot;prevents&quot; choosing a pre-installed product. They simply aren't useful. However, since our organization has standardized on Slackware, and none of the pre-installed products includes Slackware, this would disincline us to try.
769.10/18/2007 4:57:00 PMWe're an architectural firm, so a pre-installed product
770.10/18/2007 4:56:00 PMmissing flexibility, I want to decide what features are installed from the beginning
771.10/18/2007 4:59:00 PMWe install all our clients in our own factory. So pre-installed is just another cost for us. We dont want any OS pre-installed on our clients.
772.10/18/2007 4:59:00 PMIt's easy enough just to install/image your own without vendor cruft.
773.10/18/2007 5:00:00 PMNot really needed (for us). Our Desktops are already defined introducing Desktops pre-installed with (for example) Ubuntu is not an advantage. Would prefer choice of vendors with clear information that each peripheral has a linux driver.
774.10/18/2007 5:00:00 PMDTP and CAD for me personally, other issues involving UPS and Fed Ex system interfaces.
775.10/18/2007 5:03:00 PMOur HW vendor does not provide desktops with Linux preinstalled. Once it does, we will consider it again.
776.10/18/2007 5:03:00 PMWe have no plans to upgrade any hardware in the immediate future, and have the ability to do installs in-house anyway, so we can choose exactly how the OS is installed. Personally I believe pre-installed Linux is important and a very good step forward, just not necessary for our organization to use it.
777.10/18/2007 5:07:00 PMThey are too buggy for production use.
778.10/18/2007 5:08:00 PMnot to individual
779.10/18/2007 5:09:00 PMprever self-configurated systems to have all Systems with the same environment (Debian)
780.10/18/2007 5:10:00 PMPersonally: I would prefer to purchase OEM systems from popular brands that are without pre-installed OS so that I may install whatever OS I prefer, in a configuration that I choose. However, increased OEM hardware driver compatibility for all Linux distros is a necessity. Business: Our company still relies heavily on Microsoft Windows servers, and the desktop solutions must be 100% natively compatible with Active Directory, MS Office (includeing Project, Access, and Visio), Lotus Notes/Domino, and AS400, and a host of Windows-only financial/banking applications from current third-party vendors.
781.10/18/2007 5:11:00 PMprice. an ngo never has money, so its much easyer to choose the components and build it.
782.10/18/2007 5:13:00 PMWe can do it ourselves and match software to hardware.
783.10/18/2007 5:13:00 PMNone
784.10/18/2007 5:16:00 PMa) We do only trust what we install ourself from a known to be secure source. b) We have automated installs which configures most things, so pre-installed does not save us anything
785.10/18/2007 5:17:00 PMNo real issue, but end-user's are not familiar with Linux.
786.10/18/2007 5:21:00 PMBad configuration and install system, worse driver support
787.10/18/2007 5:21:00 PM- dont know what is preinstalled, could be everything...
788.10/18/2007 5:25:00 PMno issues at all, we would simply install same preconfigured distro + own apps =&gt; less effort than configuring probably differing preinstalled distros. DIFFERERNT APPROACH WITH LINUX THAN WITH WINDOWS
789.10/18/2007 5:26:00 PMHigh variety of user needs leads to high customization of software profiles and required driver/ hardware support.
790.10/18/2007 5:27:00 PMWe use a custom install image of the free CentOS when we build out a Linux workstation, so not so much that there are issues, but more that we build our own so pre-installed is not really a concern
791.10/18/2007 5:28:00 PMThey are not Windows. Period.
792.10/18/2007 5:36:00 PMlack of specialized engineering apps
793.10/18/2007 5:36:00 PMwe have complex requirements, and have enough IT resources to do our own setup rather than use preinstalled. However, may use a preinstalled as a base.
794.10/18/2007 5:38:00 PMLinux distribution choice's very limited
795.10/18/2007 5:38:00 PMOur CIO is a windows guy and won't entertain moving to linux (its hard enough to convince him to adopt linux based appliances).
796.10/18/2007 5:39:00 PMOpenOffice is still not fully compatible with MS Office which we need to use.
797.10/18/2007 5:41:00 PMchoice ;-) multiboot installments
798.10/18/2007 5:42:00 PMPC vendors provide a no free linux distribution and different flavor of Linux. We want the same Linux distribution on every desktop and not pay any fee or license for that.
799.10/18/2007 5:43:00 PMPre-install its just a little piece of the whole plan of deployment, and the installation of linux its the easiest essay to surpass
800.10/18/2007 5:46:00 PMThey do not offer the distribution I prefer. They are generally not well adapted to the end use of the computer (too much unnecessary software)
801.10/18/2007 5:46:00 PMThe in-house application we develop is for Windows only. No issues with pre-installed Linux.
802.10/18/2007 5:46:00 PMI like to have full control (and why I like Gentoo)
803.10/18/2007 5:50:00 PMwe have specific needs that are not adressed by preinstalled clients
804.10/18/2007 5:51:00 PMSpecific windows apps that are not available on Linux. No issues with pre-installation or otherwise.
805.10/18/2007 5:52:00 PMPre-installed Linux desktops or laptops generally don't meet our hardware requirements. it's much better to buy the hardware we like without any OS and then install Linux ourselves.
806.10/18/2007 5:52:00 PMThis is an Organization problem
807.10/18/2007 5:52:00 PMCorporate culture - Windows is the standard. It's not the availability of pre-installed Linux.
808.10/18/2007 5:59:00 PMValue of pre-installed is negligent
809.10/18/2007 6:04:00 PMno issue. Whichever is better price. Preinstalled or install ourselves. No problemss intalling ourselves.
810.10/18/2007 6:07:00 PMWe pick specific kernel versions
811.10/18/2007 6:08:00 PMcustomization
812.10/18/2007 6:09:00 PMThe pre-installed products aren't fast enought.
813.10/18/2007 6:10:00 PMCost &amp; options varies significantly between pre-installed &amp; bare-bones pc. We choose to install linux ourselves.
814.10/18/2007 6:12:00 PMSecurity, interoperability
815.10/18/2007 6:13:00 PMHave no need for pre-installation; prefer to customize our own installations.
816.10/18/2007 6:16:00 PMnot a problem per se, installation is done in house
817.10/18/2007 6:16:00 PMMost of our users use MS Outlook and some form of contact manager together with MS Office, other users heavily depend on Adobe apps. such as Acrobat but also CS3 and so on. Our graphic departmetn also uses Quark XPress and browsers need to understand ASP code.
818.10/18/2007 6:17:00 PMWe'd customize them in our envorment anyway.
819.10/18/2007 6:17:00 PMNo need for pre-installed desktops. Rather install desktops ourselves.
820.10/18/2007 6:20:00 PMAll pre-installed products require some tweaking. The only reason we require Windows pre-installed is for the license. We can do our own install/Ghost of Linux without worrying about licensing.
821.10/18/2007 6:22:00 PMWe want to install ourself.
822.10/18/2007 6:22:00 PMHowever it is installed, the driver installation (particularly printers) and lack of Linux version of software is major issue.
823.10/18/2007 6:23:00 PMThe applications preinstalled might not be the ones I want.
824.10/18/2007 6:28:00 PM- concerns, whether vendors made own customizations which might break the system later (e.g. software is installed, but does not get sec-updated automatically -&gt; security risk, or &quot;fancy&quot; customizations (e.g. firewall administration possible by normal user) which benefit Joe Random, but break corporate security - only some pc models are available with linux -&gt; less models to choose from - internal capacity to install linux on some boxes
825.10/18/2007 6:29:00 PMindividualism
826.10/18/2007 6:31:00 PMstupid add-ons like on preinstalled windows-dell-machines
827.10/18/2007 6:33:00 PMIt is too easy to do a self installation as our organization has several individuals who could provide assistance to those who are not comfortible.
828.10/18/2007 6:33:00 PMWe re-install everything to work on our network.
829.10/18/2007 6:39:00 PMlimited additonal software /
830.10/18/2007 6:39:00 PMI think I already addressed this. At home, most of the games the kids play don't run on 'nix. Don't care so much about that, but is an issue which causes consternation in the home At work there are some real connectivity issues. I say 'real' because some of our instrumentation is intended to connect to a MS driven host, and the drivers are written with that in mind. The IT people all seem to be MS-centric, as though nothing else existed. I'm not an IT person, but it does seem rather sad. The office end of our operation has less reason, I think to stay away from open source. We have a relatively new LIMS which is web based, but seems to be quite MS oriented. That would be a major hurdle for open source
831.10/18/2007 6:39:00 PMLinux installation options are easier to set/change during install rather than after.
832.10/18/2007 6:40:00 PMLacking customization to developers needs
833.10/18/2007 6:45:00 PMDistro pre-installed
834.10/18/2007 6:50:00 PMWe would use HD-Imaging or Think Clients so pre-installed linux has no value.
835.10/18/2007 6:56:00 PMHardware/Distribution mismatch
836.10/18/2007 6:57:00 PMThey are often delivered with vendor &quot;value-added&quot; &quot;features&quot; (such as service partitions) that actually impede support and serviceability.
837.10/18/2007 7:00:00 PMI don't think that there are any. But one would need the capability to add new desktop programs and upgrade existing ones in a trouble free manner.
838.10/18/2007 7:03:00 PMLike to have erverything in own hands
839.10/18/2007 7:04:00 PMinternal applications that require certain libraries
840.10/18/2007 7:07:00 PMthey can not be tailored enough so that they would not suit the business
841.10/18/2007 7:09:00 PMsupport for specific windows programs
842.10/18/2007 7:17:00 PMwe deploy our own customized linux variants
843.10/18/2007 7:17:00 PMNot setup to comply with internal department/security standards.
844.10/18/2007 7:21:00 PMWe depend a lot on Visual Studio and a well working KDE-environment.
845.10/18/2007 7:23:00 PMI prefer to install and customize Linux myself. I prefer a hardware system that runs preinstalled Linux so I'll know the components are Linux friendly.
846.10/18/2007 7:38:00 PMIt's unnecessary, we have a pretty good sysadmin background to do the installing, the maintenancing and the settings. Actually, we are reluctant to use a setting which comes from someone else.
847.10/18/2007 7:40:00 PM121212
848.10/18/2007 7:47:00 PMOur Linux machines are typically built specifically for purpose. At present complete migration is not a consideration but may be in the future. Pre-installed products will be of great importance at that time.
849.10/18/2007 7:47:00 PMno need.
850.10/18/2007 7:49:00 PMRestrictive and limited choice.
851.10/18/2007 7:52:00 PMbecause we have to use openSUSE 10.2 which is currently not pre-installed on many systems.
852.10/18/2007 7:59:00 PMNo major issues. I haven't been _waiting_ for preinstalled as I've always been capable of setting one up. May actually buy one preinstalled, not because its preinstalled (as I'd probably reinstall anyway), but because I'd know it had driver support. I guess &quot;Linux Certified&quot; hardware is more important than preinstalled to me.
853.10/18/2007 8:05:00 PMAssumes I'm looking for pre-installed products. I'm not. Ill-thought out question.
854.10/18/2007 8:06:00 PMsync with mobile phone and smart phone
855.10/18/2007 8:07:00 PMSecurity.
856.10/18/2007 8:13:00 PM* critical applications unavailable on linux * weak IT-user interaction and policies
857.10/18/2007 8:15:00 PMFrom what I have been reading and finding in my research, at least for now, the pre-installed products (Dell) seem to be more for the Linux techie knowmorethantheaveragejoe types. I am a newbie to Linux; and even though I have dabbled a bit with it, there is still a greater learning curve than my time permits me to devote to it. I would like to see someone come out with a Linux for Newbies manual I guess - me and several million other folks just like me.
858.10/18/2007 8:15:00 PMThe habit of installing the distribution of my choice and then configuring the machine to meet my needs.
859.10/18/2007 8:17:00 PMIntegration with MS products
860.10/18/2007 8:22:00 PMLow availability, short range of hardware options. There is no vendor/reseller in our contry which offer Linux preinstalled on desktops (not servers!)
861.10/18/2007 8:28:00 PMself installing is easy
862.10/18/2007 8:33:00 PMnon-standard base image
863.10/18/2007 8:36:00 PMInability to run AutoCAD out of the box or without special tricks to run it within an emulation layer at adequate speed and ability to use all features, not just 85%.
864.10/18/2007 8:38:00 PMWant to configure everything ourselves.
865.10/18/2007 8:38:00 PMSpecial compilations.
866.10/18/2007 8:47:00 PMWe would need a corporate image that contained our security settings and applications.
867.10/18/2007 9:00:00 PMToo limited or specifically targeted with software and products outside the scope of the business.
868.10/18/2007 9:03:00 PMNone
869.10/18/2007 9:05:00 PMOpenSUSE
870.10/18/2007 9:09:00 PMNot available in my country
871.10/18/2007 9:13:00 PMPrefer customized system images.
872.10/18/2007 9:14:00 PMLicensing issues and &quot;Microsoft&quot; centric user base of 1500 clients (Teacher, Administrators and Students)
873.10/18/2007 9:23:00 PMPre-installed desktops are generally not set up the way we would like with the software and desktops pre-installed that we have come to use.
874.10/18/2007 9:24:00 PMUse of non-free software
875.10/18/2007 9:37:00 PMWe use lots of special hardware and build our boxes ourselves.
876.10/18/2007 9:41:00 PMWant to customize and configure many details of SuSE or Ubuntu. Do own disk partitioning including RAID 5 volumes. We do extensive configuration at every place that install says &quot;for experts&quot;.
877.10/18/2007 9:47:00 PMNone, simply not interested - not familiar enough with them, so not trusted as much as e.g. clean Debian GNU/Linux install.
878.10/18/2007 9:48:00 PMI'm yet to see a vendor ship any product with SUSE pre-installed.
879.10/18/2007 9:49:00 PM- The Installation is not a problem. - The hardware configuration does not meet our needs.
880.10/18/2007 9:50:00 PMEvery application and configuration setting must be independently vetted as meeting our security requirements by our own staff.
881.10/18/2007 9:51:00 PMThere are no issues, per se, in using pre-installed products. However, we normally like to customize the OS, so pre-installed computers doesn't meet our needs.
882.10/18/2007 9:55:00 PMNeed native accounting package (similar function to Quickbooks), also complete IE compatibility (Point2Agent doesn't support non-IE browsers in ANY environment for example)
883.10/18/2007 9:57:00 PMwe buy the cheapest off brand hardware then load os / applications ourself...do not want to spend money for OS or apps
884.10/18/2007 10:06:00 PMWe have no need. Distributions are extremely easy to install and configure; pre-installed versions would just get in our way.
885.10/18/2007 10:08:00 PMWe just like to install ourselves. We don't dislike them, we just don't need them.
886.10/18/2007 10:08:00 PMBad experience with pre-installed stuff (never had pre-installed linux, though) I want to know what runs on my machine Installing linux doesn't take too much time.
887.10/18/2007 10:15:00 PMPoor hardware quality
888.10/18/2007 10:17:00 PMGraphical desktop e.g. KDE or Gnome, Ooo, file managing stuffs, more browsers e.g. Opera, Ff, Konqueror, Galeon, etc.
889.10/18/2007 10:20:00 PMuser choice, and user familiarity
890.10/18/2007 10:23:00 PMThey will not run our current business applications which require the Internet Explorer browser.
891.10/18/2007 10:38:00 PMCompatibility issues with existing data/hardware.
892.10/18/2007 10:45:00 PMUbuntu comes without most Desktop Development tools. Also, support suspect in South Africa.
893.10/18/2007 10:58:00 PMWe have our own customized image with just the bit we need minus the kitchen sink.
894.10/18/2007 11:02:00 PMMajor obstacles remain support for business apps, and messaging.
895.10/18/2007 11:07:00 PMFit. Either too big (and include way too much bloat) or do not contain the required functionality.
896.10/18/2007 11:08:00 PMThere are no major issues, but I prefer to install Mandriva on Lenovo, and therefore must take care of it myself. Wouldn't touch Dell even with Ubuntu, and the others seem to favour SuSe or RedHat/Fedora. The options are limited in Australia. What is needed is for a manufacturer to say that they would still honour warranty on their machine if I tossed Vista in the bin and installed a Linux solution of my choice.
897.10/18/2007 11:11:00 PMSee remarks regarding software. The desktops are per se good to better than windows. Certain applications are the gap.
898.10/18/2007 11:17:00 PMcosts for training of end-users.
899.10/18/2007 11:31:00 PMPackaged applications are still not available that meet our requirements.
900.10/18/2007 11:42:00 PMI'm our technical person and don't mind doing most things from source using scripts. It is conceivable that we would use pre-installed products, but it isn't currently a show stopper.
901.10/18/2007 11:44:00 PM1. We buy parts and assemble our own &quot;white-box&quot; computers: it's a fun lunch-hour operation in our boardroom. 2. We chose our distro carefully and then tailor each installation to our requirements. 3. Support services like Red Hat's are a great boon to our industry (especially since they do it well, we hear), but we are competent to handle our own problems in-house, with the excellent support of the OSS community.
902.10/18/2007 11:48:00 PMI like to select my own distribution and applications.
903.10/18/2007 11:57:00 PMNo major issues. Pre-installation is helpful but not required.
904.10/18/2007 11:59:00 PMGentoo-based distro would suit the best in scientific environment, but I don't see that happening.
905.10/19/2007 12:03:00 AMWe need two weeks to migrate from Mandriva to Kubuntu. We use the 6.06LTS, the migrating to other distribution need more work (and more money) than migrate to a newer Kubuntu (next time to 8.04LTS), because we use self modified tk libs to our CRM which was originally developed at 1998.
906.10/19/2007 12:05:00 AMWe are to much Windows-addicts :)
907.10/19/2007 12:07:00 AMToo many architecture types.
908.10/19/2007 12:08:00 AMInstallation of new software, lack of proper software
909.10/19/2007 12:13:00 AMWe don't know what is installed inside - security issues.
910.10/19/2007 12:14:00 AMWe are a small liberal arts college whose students expect MS desktop applications to be available.
911.10/19/2007 12:17:00 AMQuality of pre-installed system. Unmodified distributor-installs are preferred, however many companies want to customize the preinstalled system. It's then often easier to just kill it and install a system where you know what's in it.
912.10/19/2007 12:51:00 AMCurrent vendor does not offer pre-installed.
913.10/19/2007 12:54:00 AMthe tree directory is not intuitive
914.10/19/2007 1:13:00 AMJust compatibility with existing software and hardware.
915.10/19/2007 1:22:00 AMPre-installed Linux products usually tweak a Linux distribution slightly, and often don't tell you exactly what they changed. I prefer to install it myself, so I know what's going on.
916.10/19/2007 1:40:00 AMWe prefer to create a custom install-CD of our favorite distribution with most of the packets we need already installed and configured.
917.10/19/2007 1:41:00 AMI'm not a head of IT, so the question shouldn't be aimed to me, really. But since it workes well with Windows, I should say &quot;nothing&quot;. Or to be more truthful, I should say: every package should be adjusted to the organisation it's specified for. Only then can true quality and splender be shown, and appriciated. (that can easily be done in group packages as well, without losing it's personality, by the way)
918.10/19/2007 1:43:00 AMThe pre-installed machines that we have evaluated do not conform to our hardware standards (they often exceed them - at significant cost) and the support provided by the vendor is half-hearted or non-existent. What is required is a company that is dedicated to selling and supporting brandname workstations and laptops that are shipped only with Linux. The fact that this hasn't yet happened indicates the seemingly insurmountable challenges that Linux faces.
919.10/19/2007 1:44:00 AM?
920.10/19/2007 2:16:00 AMAvailability of hardware configurations
921.10/19/2007 2:32:00 AMThe absence of an Outlook Application with mail, calendaring and task integrate with Microsoft Exchange
922.10/19/2007 2:45:00 AMNo simple way to manage an Active Directory graphically (even though Samba 4.0 will be containing AD-capable code). No simple way to distribute predefined program packages to client computers segmented group wise. No good replacement for Outlook and Microsoft Office-applications.
923.10/19/2007 3:37:00 AMwe dont need them; we have our own system in place
924.10/19/2007 3:37:00 AMAlmost all pre-installed machines are Windows with a few Apple machines. All Linux machines are purchased with Linux pre-installed, and have been for years from vendors such as SWT, Emperor Linux and ASA.
925.10/19/2007 3:46:00 AMUpper management is not familiar with Linux.
926.10/19/2007 4:13:00 AMAudio and Video recording/editing features
927.10/19/2007 4:29:00 AMCost
928.10/19/2007 4:51:00 AMdon't need it
929.10/19/2007 4:52:00 AMWe provide different tailored, image bases install depending on organization groups. So, all desktops are reinstalled when brought to user.
930.10/19/2007 4:54:00 AMWe build and maintain our own computers to meet our specifications.
931.10/19/2007 4:55:00 AMI feel forced to a particular linux &quot;flavor&quot;. I prefer simplicity and liberty of choice.
932.10/19/2007 5:00:00 AMCustomized installs, we can do that easyily ourselves
933.10/19/2007 5:11:00 AMMicrosoft Software
934.10/19/2007 5:21:00 AMThe current linux pre-installation offerings are very very limited and don't come out to be a good deal. Also the kind of support provided with them is flaky
935.10/19/2007 5:32:00 AMSlackware is still unavailible preinstalled. But saving the money by not needing to buy windows is nice. You shouldnt need to buy it if you don't need it.
936.10/19/2007 5:42:00 AMMany of the pre-installed versions are not complete. To add patches to them is rather a pain as either the pre-installation was not done properly or due to weird paths.
937.10/19/2007 5:46:00 AMCost
938.10/19/2007 5:48:00 AMDifferent Desktops. Every Developer has it's own requirements
939.10/19/2007 5:50:00 AMN/A
940.10/19/2007 6:11:00 AMThere aren't available in our country.
941.10/19/2007 6:16:00 AMCompany too large, not looking at linux deployment on the desktop, however we are indirectly given freedom of choice, hence why a tiny fraction of the thousands use linux on their workstations.
942.10/19/2007 6:30:00 AMNot so major, but if self-installed, we can tweak installed apps. and settings etc.
943.10/19/2007 6:38:00 AMPrefer to set up each Linux workstation individually to meet requirement for person using that workstation
944.10/19/2007 6:39:00 AMUnfamiliar with the offerings. Small community - small market - small support base from vendors for pre-installed products.
945.10/19/2007 6:39:00 AMWe would most definitely want a total customized installation
946.10/19/2007 6:42:00 AMBig companies will -in my opinion- move to virtualized desktops due to largely reduced total client seat costs. Support of Linux for that kind of infrastrcuture is crucial. Simple &quot;works the same like windows&quot;-approach is to late for that companies, they go the desktop virtualization way (like us).
947.10/19/2007 6:44:00 AMMy boss
948.10/19/2007 6:52:00 AMWe prefer to install our own custom set of applications, configurations, etc. Installation from scratch is faster than re-configure preinstalled products.
949.10/19/2007 6:53:00 AMDecision for a linux or windows desktop will be made later by the user, not by the buyer of the computer hardware.
950.10/19/2007 7:00:00 AMWe rely on MS Outlook for some reasons :-(
951.10/19/2007 7:05:00 AMnot necessary as we will install our own. Not varied enough to warrant purchase (more distro choice needed)
952.10/19/2007 7:07:00 AMWe just prefer installing ourselves.
953.10/19/2007 7:17:00 AMProblems with vendor.
954.10/19/2007 7:18:00 AMNo Debian available ;-)
955.10/19/2007 7:20:00 AMWe like to build our own hardware.
956.10/19/2007 7:27:00 AMNone - where GNU/Linux is chosen, it is the individuals choice and usually they are capable of building up the toolset that they need themselves.
957.10/19/2007 7:33:00 AMIncompatibility with our clients' systems
958.10/19/2007 7:34:00 AMwe do our own administration. any pre-installed solution will not be as adapted to our processes as we'd need. installation is just one step in the setup.
959.10/19/2007 7:38:00 AMWe prefer to insall each client custimized ourselves with our kickstart server
960.10/19/2007 7:40:00 AMYou have to check also the Configuration, so i do it better by my self :)
961.10/19/2007 7:42:00 AMCorporate standards are a massive issue here--but we have a fairly mature standard internal distro.
962.10/19/2007 7:47:00 AMlack of applications
963.10/19/2007 7:53:00 AMThe build for our desktops are customised to meet the companys needs.
964.10/19/2007 7:54:00 AMWe buy pcs from vendors who do not offer preinstalled linux. However, we can easily install our own linux distro if required.
965.10/19/2007 7:55:00 AMAs mentioned before, it is a matter of will and disbelief (call it culture) by the direction, so the availability of preinstalled systems does not overcome the core resistances to the swich to Linux.
966.10/19/2007 7:56:00 AMCustomization
967.10/19/2007 8:00:00 AMinstallations on your own are always better
968.10/19/2007 8:00:00 AMWe use remoteboot
969.10/19/2007 8:03:00 AMAt the moment, the vast majority of systems are MSWin based. They are all installed with a custom variant of Win for some reason which I do not understand. I can only imagine that the same approach would be taken if Linux were adopted, but then again the more inherent security may mean that this is not necessary!
970.10/19/2007 8:17:00 AMAs we have our product we do not need them
971.10/19/2007 8:17:00 AMInternal Use is Active X Support.
972.10/19/2007 8:20:00 AMConfiguration to apply to our buiseniss
973.10/19/2007 8:22:00 AMWe use to leave uses to format PCs
974.10/19/2007 8:23:00 AMcustomisation
975.10/19/2007 8:24:00 AMFirst the price and second the pre-installed systems are older then this one with Windows installed.
976.10/19/2007 8:25:00 AMno support in our region
977.10/19/2007 8:28:00 AMi'm the only one that knows gnu\linux. I'm loving it
978.10/19/2007 8:32:00 AMall our laptops machines are running windows and a few desktop boxe's are installed by user request by me.
979.10/19/2007 8:34:00 AMGraphic Drivers Hardware support
980.10/19/2007 8:36:00 AMThe lack of education in using Linux products is the first drawbacks that prevent my organization from choosing one
981.10/19/2007 8:43:00 AMnon-free hardware shipped in them, what is the point of using a libre OS if devces are non-free. also, the maturity of the vendors in desktop gnu/linux leading to many inconsistencies and loss of time from an end user with respect to support issues.
982.10/19/2007 8:44:00 AMI like to do the installation procedure.
983.10/19/2007 8:45:00 AMWe like to have total control over the installation process
984.10/19/2007 8:45:00 AMNon OSS / commercial
985.10/19/2007 8:47:00 AMBecause they are only configured with standard packages or to much packages which i dont use. its not changed to my dependency. look for dell they only have ubuntu. i dont work with ubuntu. i dont like the package managment from debian.
986.10/19/2007 8:51:00 AMnot required for us. Boxes can be automatically installed by end users in any of our offices.
987.10/19/2007 9:01:00 AMUse of used hardware
988.10/19/2007 9:03:00 AMprice
989.10/19/2007 9:28:00 AMwe install ourselves
990.10/19/2007 9:34:00 AMLanguage related issues.
991.10/19/2007 9:42:00 AMdistribution preinstalled
992.10/19/2007 9:59:00 AMSo far.. We are using machines assembled ourself.... So... So at present time, we are not thinking about those pre-installed products. But.. I would like to see the availability of Linux pre-installed products..We will accept the movement at best..
993.10/19/2007 10:09:00 AMNone
994.10/19/2007 10:11:00 AMI want to choice what I do
995.10/19/2007 10:26:00 AMWe have have our personal preference of how they should be set-up
996.10/19/2007 10:27:00 AMNone. We mainly use older, lowend workstations, thus we install Gentoo Linux on all of these.
997.10/19/2007 10:33:00 AMLicensing Fees for included Distributions. Lack of Stability or Security of installed Distributions e.g Ubuntu or Suse.
998.10/19/2007 10:38:00 AMNot invented here
999.10/19/2007 10:41:00 AMNot easily available.
1000.10/19/2007 10:43:00 AMPre-installed distributions don't have a finetuned configuration.
1001.10/19/2007 10:48:00 AMA reinstall is part of the deployment process and we do not plan to buy enterprise desktop distros like RH or SuSE.
1002.10/19/2007 10:52:00 AMWe have in-house support
1003.10/19/2007 10:55:00 AMLess flexibility
1004.10/19/2007 11:00:00 AMMissing of adequate Linux programs (Layout, Photoediting etc.)
1005.10/19/2007 11:15:00 AMDell and other major manufacturers still doesn't sell pre-installed software in Brazil. Some that do (like Acer) comes with a horrible linux distribution called 'limpus' that don't even start the graphical mode by default, which play a negative role of scaring potential users away.
1006.10/19/2007 11:24:00 AMSoftware compatiability to run other 3rd vendor software in Linux OS's.
1007.10/19/2007 11:26:00 AMNo major savings in pre-installed desktops to off-set transition costs from Windows to Linux. Also, Linux in general does not support several proprietary call center softwares (or rather these proprietary software vendors do not support the Linux OS).
1008.10/19/2007 11:29:00 AMprice
1009.10/19/2007 11:31:00 AMMentality -- Linux isn't good for buisness. It's next to impossible to develop and deploy a linux app. Not willing to pay cost for cross-platform devleopement.
1010.10/19/2007 11:39:00 AM1. Lack of highly portable laptops (13.3&quot; or less and 2.0kg or less) 2. Lack of high spec GPU-equipped laptop.
1011.10/19/2007 11:40:00 AMPrefer doing custom installations (even on windows...)
1012.10/19/2007 11:46:00 AMNeed a automated Deployment f&#252;r different Applications
1013.10/19/2007 11:48:00 AMNo major issues, just not a requirement. We are perfectly capable of installing Linux. Pre-installed Linux can save us some time &amp; work if available at reasonable prices. I have seen the same hardware cost more with Linux pre-installed than with Windows pre-installed. Do they think we are fools!!!!
1014.10/19/2007 12:05:00 PMNone, they are just not germane
1015.10/19/2007 12:11:00 PMN/A
1016.10/19/2007 12:14:00 PMThey are not geared towards our organisation.
1017.10/19/2007 12:25:00 PMPolicy and range
1018.10/19/2007 12:31:00 PMWe usually want to install and customize our GNU/Linux distribution of choice to best fit our needs, rather than having everything pre-installed...
1019.10/19/2007 12:45:00 PMN/A. All desktops are formated and custom build is installed.
1020.10/19/2007 12:47:00 PMWe install our desktop OS our self to get a homogeniuos environment.
1021.10/19/2007 1:01:00 PMNot a need - our manufacturing facility custom installs for customers
1022.10/19/2007 1:05:00 PMwe buy ex lease, secondhand
1023.10/19/2007 1:17:00 PMIt's not an *issue*, I simply install by myself what is required
1024.10/19/2007 1:21:00 PMWe are not gaining much versus installing ourselves
1025.10/19/2007 1:26:00 PMlack of widespread technical assistance (in Italy)
1026.10/19/2007 1:40:00 PMDriver and codec support.
1027.10/19/2007 1:41:00 PMNon, but it's not our selection of software/application and they are not configured compliant to our house rules.
1028.10/19/2007 1:41:00 PMSupport
1029.10/19/2007 1:42:00 PMIn-house setup prevails anyway.
1030.10/19/2007 1:43:00 PMWe must install and configure all received machines anyway, so getting one pre-installed is not a benefit.
1031.10/19/2007 1:49:00 PMUsually not the preferred choice of distribution offered. In general, certified hardware would help much more.
1032.10/19/2007 1:52:00 PMThe cost of the pre-installation
1033.10/19/2007 2:08:00 PMNone, but I prefer to install the distribution myself on custom hardware.
1034.10/19/2007 2:11:00 PMNo need for preinstalled Linux directly. Generic hardware compatbility and driver availability would be preferred so as to be able to choose
1035.10/19/2007 2:14:00 PMWe do need to use some Adobe application that run only in Windows and Mac OS (such as Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign) and so on..
1036.10/19/2007 2:20:00 PMHomgeneity is likely to be introduced. Setting up the same distribution eases the management
1037.10/19/2007 2:29:00 PMWe custom install each user's desktop.
1038.10/19/2007 2:38:00 PMNone. I would welcome pre-installed Linux Desktops, but it doesn't bother me to install it myself. One big advantage would be that all the hardware is compatible and working. This gives me most headaches during custom install.
1039.10/19/2007 2:46:00 PMDoes not address our specific requirements - would rather build ourseleves
1040.10/19/2007 2:48:00 PMNo support of critical applications for our organisation.
1041.10/19/2007 3:01:00 PMI like to install my OS'es myself.
1042.10/19/2007 3:05:00 PMMost of them appear to lack refinement. In some cases the application quality is poor.
1043.10/19/2007 3:28:00 PMNever used a pre-installed product.
1044.10/19/2007 3:30:00 PMBloated software installations, lack of transparency about installed amount and type of software, administration effort for unneeded software or effort to strip down installations, installations need to be customized anyways, installations do not match existing installations.
1045.10/19/2007 3:31:00 PMPaying for something I can do myself; cost.
1046.10/19/2007 3:36:00 PMDon't need new Hardware at this stage.
1047.10/19/2007 3:40:00 PMWe have our own distribution, so unless the vendor will pre-install ours, we generally do it over anyway. The main value to us in vendor pre-installs is then the vendor has done at least some testing with whatever Linux release they ship.
1048.10/19/2007 3:43:00 PMAdobe apps not installed.
1049.10/19/2007 3:48:00 PMWe like to install and configure our Linux boxes ourselves, since our requirements are often way too much specialized than that of the average user's. We often use several Linux distributions on the same machine for testing our software, and we have some special stuff on our servers like Asterisk and OpenSER.
1050.10/19/2007 3:55:00 PMThey often come with too many applications loaded on them. It is easier for us to do a manual install on these the way we want them, then deploy via imaging.
1051.10/19/2007 4:05:00 PMNot needed
1052.10/19/2007 4:25:00 PMUnnecessary. Custom images are used throughout the organization.
1053.10/19/2007 4:29:00 PMI'm buying un-pre-installed computers, and install whatever I like. Several times:)
1054.10/19/2007 4:29:00 PMSmall variety of operating systems.
1055.10/19/2007 4:50:00 PM- the first ones are like beta-versions - look at dell for example. - we will choose the third generation or later
1056.10/19/2007 4:52:00 PMOEM changes made that alter a &quot;vanilla&quot; install.
1057.10/19/2007 4:56:00 PMI'd rather build my own boxes
1058.10/19/2007 5:02:00 PMMany are not needed just occupy space there is too much to choose from when something is not there you can search for it online and you will probably get it but then its a pain to install and configure it with your system
1059.10/19/2007 5:20:00 PMthe normal versions already do what we like, no need for this kind of stuff
1060.10/19/2007 5:25:00 PMNo issues. It's just that installing modern Linux distros (for dual booting) is very easy. And you end up with a spare Windows license just in case.
1061.10/19/2007 5:39:00 PMNo need, we do it ourselves.
1062.10/19/2007 5:49:00 PMNo major issues. It all depends on the individual products and needs in question.
1063.10/19/2007 5:56:00 PMusers know only power on a computer...
1064.10/19/2007 6:25:00 PMnone
1065.10/19/2007 6:27:00 PMwe would like to decide which is the best choise
1066.10/19/2007 6:28:00 PMChoice
1067.10/19/2007 6:48:00 PMjust not necessary for us, and we would be likely to heavily customize the d.top anyway
1068.10/19/2007 7:01:00 PMMissing full 100% compatibility with Microsoft Office products
1069.10/19/2007 7:14:00 PMNo one providing here, Vista only!
1070.10/19/2007 7:15:00 PMnot sure, i was forced to pick one:-(
1071.10/19/2007 7:21:00 PMLimited systems choices
1072.10/19/2007 7:39:00 PMThere are no issues with pre-installed Linux. We simply have no use for it, since we always install our own Fedora-based spin on our machines. We don't need any OS on new machines, and we don't need an OS support contract from the hardware vendor; we just need to know that the hardware components will work under Linux, and we'll take it from there.
1073.10/19/2007 7:40:00 PM1. i don't like (k)ubuntu 2. and the managment is used to mac :( 3. just give me a blank disk, i can setup my linux on my onw
1074.10/19/2007 7:48:00 PMSecurity requirements.
1075.10/19/2007 8:45:00 PMSupport of MS Office
1076.10/19/2007 8:47:00 PMAt a personal level I already use Linux at home and have throughout this decade. At work, we do use Linux servers for several commodity financial service applications. They are reliable and the lower fixed costs. Deploying desktop applications is another matter. Current offerings lack the rich features and multimedia support. Examples: Lotus Sametime, Audio Meeting Place, Blackberry support, all tightly integrated with Outlook and Office. Need other options that equal and preferably exceed current capabilities without sacrificing any business functionality at all.
1077.10/19/2007 8:49:00 PMNeed customized packages and users should not have to install a bunch of packages themselves. Buying locally built computers and install needed OS and apps is cheaper than buying pre-installed.
1078.10/19/2007 8:55:00 PMLack of major PLC vendor support
1079.10/19/2007 8:57:00 PMHardware compatibily. 3D games lack.
1080.10/19/2007 8:58:00 PMNot customized according to our needs
1081.10/19/2007 9:12:00 PMMy companies decision makers are morons.
1082.10/19/2007 9:16:00 PMAll platforms here are deployed with a custom installation configuration.
1083.10/19/2007 9:17:00 PMAt some point you have to get down and dirty to fix something, you might aswell have installed the distribution from scratch so you know what is installed
1084.10/19/2007 9:22:00 PMI use Linux because I want to know what I'm doing and have access/control over what the system is doing. So I'd rather install my own systems.
1085.10/19/2007 9:36:00 PMproprietary applications currently in use
1086.10/19/2007 9:54:00 PMNone we install and configure our own debian installs
1087.10/19/2007 9:56:00 PMCost. We are a Private, Non-profit, and get FREE servers/workstations donated. So, we install cloned drives 'en masse' for 5 to 50 units at a time, using volunteer labor from local Linux Users Groups. As do many charities, churches, private and home school environments.
1088.10/19/2007 10:11:00 PMI have very special requirements on my system. We can do it better and cheaper than any external company.
1089.10/19/2007 10:18:00 PMThere are no issues with preinstalled system. You offered just 2 choices, neither aplies to our situation. We have not been waiting, because can easily install new system and pre-installed sytem does meet our needs.
1090.10/19/2007 10:36:00 PMnone
1091.10/20/2007 12:04:00 AMPerception that nothing will be easily interoperable: either documents being incompatible or databases nonfunctional or hardware not being supported. Get into the users head, advertise!
1092.10/20/2007 1:45:00 AMI would prefer to know intimatly the software, and how it works from the disk up where are things and what they do and pre installs are cookie cutter that may not meet my needs as I use some programs that are a little different due to web streaming and video capturing.
1093.10/20/2007 2:25:00 AMchoice of software installation one should be able to understand software package names...
1094.10/20/2007 2:37:00 AMLack of customization, it's just easier to roll you own install.
1095.10/20/2007 3:34:00 AMWrong vendors, we are standardized on Hardware from a vendor that doesn't yet do it
1096.10/20/2007 4:38:00 AMExisting hardware base
1097.10/20/2007 5:06:00 AMOne size fits all doesn't work for us though it may very well work for others and for home users. Also, we don't like Ubuntu/Kubuntu which seem to be the most widespread preinstalled distros.
1098.10/20/2007 5:40:00 AMPrice: I am assuming you are referring to Dell's. &quot;Most&quot; people/businesses (including me) choose Linux because it is free, as in beer. It seems backwords to spend upwards of $500 - $800 for a new system when you could spend 1/3 of the cost on a gently used system, load the Linux O/S of your choice yourself, even if not every option on the system is supported by Linux. O/S: I would rather have a &quot;pure&quot; version of the distro I use then a &quot;Dellified&quot; version of the same distro from Dell, who is only in the hardware business. How long do you think it will take Dell to offer the newly released version of Ubuntu?
1099.10/20/2007 6:12:00 AMBesides dell, there is no major computer manufacture with preinstalled linux. HP needs to start selling computers with Linux preinstalled.
1100.10/20/2007 6:36:00 AMDoes not provide support for customized aplpications.
1101.10/20/2007 7:05:00 AMSubstandard hardware choices by companies like Dell to date, and not enough of a price break from the OS. Right now, Dell is hurting business GNU/Linux adoption by offering very limited hardware choices between both laptop and desktops.
1102.10/20/2007 7:07:00 AMLack of need for new hardware.
1103.10/20/2007 7:28:00 AMOur infrastructure is too large.
1104.10/20/2007 7:33:00 AM(Assuming you mean Dell here) Limited range of systems that may or may not meet requirements; lack of choice of distros.
1105.10/20/2007 7:34:00 AMWe build our own computers and install our own OS (Xandros) on them.
1106.10/20/2007 7:52:00 AMwe have enough internal expertise to install the desktop systems ourselves :-)
1107.10/20/2007 8:19:00 AMnot the right distribution
1108.10/20/2007 8:29:00 AMDon't have the specific application support required
1109.10/20/2007 8:38:00 AMApplication support
1110.10/20/2007 9:06:00 AMThey may not provide the distribution that we prefer
1111.10/20/2007 9:26:00 AMlack of mission critical applications
1112.10/20/2007 10:03:00 AMCost
1113.10/20/2007 10:22:00 AMLack of flexibility on hardware vendors -- Linux is only available on a small subset of hardware, and special prices / deals are often only available on W32 platforms. There should be complete parity on availability. Installing Linux is not difficult. However, all hardware vendors need to make device drivers (FOSS or not) available and tested on the platform.
1114.10/20/2007 10:36:00 AMOur IT department is composed of point-n-click Windows idiots.
1115.10/20/2007 10:36:00 AMNot specific enough for our needs. We have internal expertise to 'homebrew' an installation.
1116.10/20/2007 11:20:00 AMThis product can be supported by a software vendor.
1117.10/20/2007 11:25:00 AMAs long as pre-installed does not limit the ability of the end user to (re)shape the system to his hearts content (one of the main merits of Linux), there is no problem. I.e. pre-installed for mass market must not make the product less versatile for advanced users.
1118.10/20/2007 11:29:00 AMit's a something motionless... they do not to want risk and hard to change their minds... and it's a not a one man to decide this. All (&gt;50%) of Directors (or who) should decide... it's hard to believe it will be soon ;-(
1119.10/20/2007 11:54:00 AMIt&#180;s not interesting.
1120.10/20/2007 12:02:00 PMWe are able to install Linux from install media
1121.10/20/2007 1:12:00 PMPrice
1122.10/20/2007 2:21:00 PMPoor feedback from other users so far. Will likely change in the future.
1123.10/20/2007 3:22:00 PMThere are hardly any offerings that give pre-installed Linux on desktops. Most of them come with Windows XP
1124.10/20/2007 3:23:00 PMWe prefer to prepare and control the products we deploy internally
1125.10/20/2007 5:31:00 PMClient manageability
1126.10/20/2007 5:34:00 PMubuntu is already meeting our needs
1127.10/20/2007 7:03:00 PMAll personnel are trained on Microsoft
1128.10/20/2007 7:28:00 PMnone
1129.10/20/2007 7:40:00 PMLimit to certain distro
1130.10/20/2007 8:05:00 PMno need in anything pre-installed
1131.10/20/2007 10:04:00 PMmanage our own images, no benefit
1132.10/20/2007 11:15:00 PMWe prefer to have computer without OS, and install the distribution that meets our needs in a particular moment.
1133.10/21/2007 2:20:00 AMOur software platform is based on Windows
1134.10/21/2007 2:58:00 AMApplication support, Compatibility with proprietary applications,
1135.10/21/2007 6:18:00 AMWe roll our own setup.
1136.10/21/2007 6:45:00 AMWe like to confirm and test the new OS before getting one.
1137.10/21/2007 7:37:00 AMUbuntu avoids all the benefits of the entire Linux-paradigm. Gentoo can't pass its own core-system tests, in a rebuild-world of phase-2!! Only a SuSE-based system is going to be installed/maintained in our group. Period. ( Red hat long-ago determined to ignore the linux-standards, in order to microsoft the linux-world. Hence it isn't an option )
1138.10/21/2007 9:37:00 AMThey often need customization, so it's easier sometimes to install it from scratch.
1139.10/21/2007 9:40:00 AMExchange integration is a major problem as is office integration. Our intranet also only works properly with IE.
1140.10/21/2007 9:44:00 AMnot necessary
1141.10/21/2007 10:17:00 AMAs IT-consultants we do not need pre-installed clients for our company, but we will probably deploy them to some of our customers to save time and money.
1142.10/21/2007 10:20:00 AMmust match our distribution preference (debian/ubuntu); we do not depend on pre-installed Linux but would be glad to use it.
1143.10/21/2007 10:36:00 AMWe do our own package selection.
1144.10/21/2007 10:57:00 AMnot necessary we are installing linux by our own
1145.10/21/2007 12:18:00 PMdifferent linux flavour
1146.10/21/2007 12:28:00 PMWe build our own custom boxes that triple-boot. Besides, the customer application requires hardware combinations that no one offers.
1147.10/21/2007 12:45:00 PMNO!?!
1148.10/21/2007 1:15:00 PMit will make our customization to the system harder.
1149.10/21/2007 2:20:00 PMWe dont't use preinstalled desktoips.
1150.10/21/2007 4:00:00 PMWe reinstall and configure the Systems either way.
1151.10/21/2007 4:10:00 PMIn any case the systems have to be customized to our needs. Customizing a fresh install of a linux distribution I know well is - imho - easier than customizing the stuff that a PC vendor puts onto its devices.
1152.10/21/2007 5:02:00 PMability to run legacy apps - will wait until they're phased out
1153.10/21/2007 5:47:00 PMNeeds to work seamlessly with Adobe software; needs to recognize printers, scanners, and networked devices. Right now, I can download the latest distros onto any of my pcs and achieve the same results as buying a pre-installed product. I do not use Linux for printing, scanning, card-reading or utilization of any networked devices, except for storage. I cannot use Linux for pre-press or graphics layout or illustration, but I sure would like to!
1154.10/21/2007 6:07:00 PMSync'ing with mobile devices
1155.10/21/2007 6:45:00 PMAvailability. I have my usual local dealers and that's where I want to buy. I need *them* to supply pre-installed Linux machines. Ordering online from a remote company makes it so much harder when/if there is problems.
1156.10/21/2007 7:08:00 PMCompany is using leased laptops and vendor has to approve pre-installed environment that it meets their DTM platform and integration to MS AD.
1157.10/21/2007 8:10:00 PMease of use is not there, compatibility with Windows
1158.10/21/2007 8:57:00 PMThere are no major issues... but we don't really need commercial support for Linux right now.
1159.10/21/2007 9:03:00 PMAs developers, we prefer to configure our own machines with our favourite distributions and setups.
1160.10/21/2007 9:42:00 PMThey don't suit our needs, we are perfectly capable of installing Linux ourself on systems shipped without an OS.
1161.10/21/2007 10:32:00 PMwe use only high quality installations; one size fits it all does not meet our needs
1162.10/21/2007 11:04:00 PMPrefer to repurpose current hardware.
1163.10/22/2007 5:36:00 AMWe need to build an image with our own configuration (for example Active Directory/Kerberos integration) and applications.
1164.10/22/2007 5:45:00 AMLicensing and IP Rights
1165.10/22/2007 6:09:00 AMContracts with MS, no trained personell, little will to apply chances to a (somehow) working (MS-Windows) environment/architecture by the people really in charge. In the heads of the (now older) generation Linux has still a raputation of being complicated, not working properly on all hardware, etc. Our constant reply would be: but we are allready running Linux on almost all servers ! Their reply would be: you are trained personell, the common &quot;Layer 8&quot; is not =&gt; hence she/he can handle Linux (that is KDE/Gnome, of cause). Arguing that Vista has incorporated many features of KDE, not the other way round, will instantly terminate the discussion: &quot;We're using XP not Vista, e.o.d.&quot; So, some more advertising is necesary. One more thing: Linux has just been suit in Texas. As we as a company can be suit directly for using Linux, we are vulnarable. It's not a question of &quot;did a programmer really &quot;steal&quot; code, but the fear of being suit in the first place. The Novell/MS agreement doesn't seem to give protection here, not even from MS-sub-companies.
1166.10/22/2007 6:10:00 AMlimited selection
1167.10/22/2007 6:55:00 AMCompany Policies and local policies require adaptations which makes it easier to run a local installation process
1168.10/22/2007 7:03:00 AMCost
1169.10/22/2007 7:26:00 AMI already have learned to install and use Linux! A couple of years ago this a pre-installed product was a dream! But this is my situation, a pre-installed product is the best way, only too late for me, I have already done my training. Anyway, I want to go in a shop and find products with pre-installed Linux!!!
1170.10/22/2007 7:58:00 AMToo much extras without truly useful apps
1171.10/22/2007 8:15:00 AM.
1172.10/22/2007 8:44:00 AMdoes not meet our initial requirements
1173.10/22/2007 8:45:00 AMLack of support for specialist embedded cross development, bloated with unnecessary baggage.
1174.10/22/2007 8:56:00 AMApplication support
1175.10/22/2007 9:02:00 AMnot being in control about what's installed and how it is configured... figuring that out would consume the same amount of time as installing those by our selves plus we would have to customize them to our needs anyway which is easier when setting things up our selves right from the beginning...
1176.10/22/2007 9:17:00 AMPrefer personal or inhouse selection of hardware/distro and custom configuration i.e. we likewise normally install Windows on own choice of hardware.
1177.10/22/2007 9:59:00 AMNot applicable to us.
1178.10/22/2007 10:05:00 AMWe run heavily customized Linux.
1179.10/22/2007 10:45:00 AMWe need centralized control/management/deployment, login availability.
1180.10/22/2007 11:22:00 AMThey do not include the software mix we require, so installing our own mix needs to be done anyway
1181.10/22/2007 11:29:00 AMJust the limiting factors from the rest of the survey, the largest one being that the end users see the system as good enough and would be angry to see change.
1182.10/22/2007 11:52:00 AMDon't have the tools needed.
1183.10/22/2007 12:02:00 PMWe build our own pre-installed Linux OS
1184.10/22/2007 1:13:00 PMWe don't have much knowledge of the pre-installed Linux market.
1185.10/22/2007 1:41:00 PMOften changed from default Distro vendor, sometimes incompatible.
1186.10/22/2007 1:44:00 PMPrefer to do it inhouse.
1187.10/22/2007 1:48:00 PMjust don't need one at present
1188.10/22/2007 1:56:00 PMBeing from third world, our organization would not be able to afford themj, UNLESS given for free.
1189.10/22/2007 1:58:00 PMHavent evaluated any yet
1190.10/22/2007 2:01:00 PMActually I haven't looked at them in enough detail to know. There is a possibility we may need something like this in the future, but we don't as yet, so I can't say one way or the other.
1191.10/22/2007 2:04:00 PMNot enterprise grade stable software with adequate remote management facilities
1192.10/22/2007 2:15:00 PMI like to customize my own installation configuration, regardless of OS. For example: Disk partitions, selected packages, security settings.
1193.10/22/2007 2:27:00 PMwe may, indeed. buy these products. cost is the major issue and the possibility that our desktop users often have a distro-preference
1194.10/22/2007 2:31:00 PMThere aren't any major issue, we're just not interested in that, it's not important - we would wipe out everything and install from scratch anyway.
1195.10/22/2007 3:37:00 PMOur biggest obstacle is that our ASP's applications only run on windows and CANNOT run via terminal server
1196.10/22/2007 3:38:00 PMNone
1197.10/22/2007 4:04:00 PMn/a
1198.10/22/2007 4:29:00 PMIt's not that so much as that the people who are using Linux are very capable self-starters who don't need the pre-installed choices.
1199.10/22/2007 4:33:00 PMThe company needs to check/approve every detail of the operating system.
1200.10/22/2007 4:54:00 PMOur preferred vendor does not offer any.
1201.10/22/2007 4:55:00 PMUbuntu!
1202.10/22/2007 5:12:00 PMPotentially not the linux version we want to support.
1203.10/22/2007 5:32:00 PMprice
1204.10/22/2007 5:52:00 PMMost out of the box installs tend not to work well ... most organisations, ours included, would want to roll out a customised distribution with specific extra software and/or configuration out of the box. Something like redhat's kickstart might help with this ...
1205.10/22/2007 6:21:00 PMWe want Windows and LINUX on the same machine. When LINUX comes pre-installed, we have to add Windows.
1206.10/22/2007 6:46:00 PMmultiple options noone REALLY good
1207.10/22/2007 6:52:00 PMThe desire for integrating directly with corporate authentication infrastructure, and implementing corporate security / change control policies.
1208.10/22/2007 7:09:00 PMlocally customised installs are preferred, also for windows
1209.10/22/2007 7:24:00 PMThey are not in Italy and not from nig brand as HP
1210.10/22/2007 7:24:00 PMLack of distro choice
1211.10/22/2007 7:27:00 PMUsers have specific requirements and machines differ. Like to have greater level of control
1212.10/22/2007 7:37:00 PMPolitical decisions
1213.10/22/2007 7:54:00 PM&quot;I want what I want&quot;! (Talking personally here) I build my own. Then spend more money fixing it! My previous employer would probably do much the same thing to get required security. Although it would be done on contract.
1214.10/22/2007 8:03:00 PMI guess this question can better be replied by some one from the university.
1215.10/22/2007 8:15:00 PMWe install products ourselves, not required.
1216.10/22/2007 8:26:00 PMThe hardware they are available on is often outdated and/or meagre (RAM, CPU speed, amount of storage) compared to systems with other OSs from the very same vendor.
1217.10/22/2007 9:22:00 PMWe need to be able to maintain and deploy our own hard disk images or scripted installs.
1218.10/22/2007 10:12:00 PMLack of choice. Either too much software or not enough. It is just easier to install your own. But the vendors offering to support and supply Linux is a huge leap forward and may have a future in the desktop arena.
1219.10/23/2007 12:03:00 AMNative Linux Applications which rival Apple Shake and Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator.
1220.10/23/2007 12:10:00 AMNot available in Malaysia
1221.10/23/2007 12:12:00 AMIP issues.
1222.10/23/2007 12:33:00 AMNone of them handle some of our mission crtical applications out of the box
1223.10/23/2007 1:07:00 AMWe run thin-client / LTSP.
1224.10/23/2007 2:17:00 AMPricing, lack of options. We typically assemble our own computers as we want specific configurations. Sometimes this matches servers, sometimes it is because of idealogical reasons like supporting certain manufacturers. Also we specifically search for low-noise components and most pre-installed products are poor in this regard.
1225.10/23/2007 2:17:00 AMOur budget doesn't let us replace equipment we already have; I have to work with what's already in place.
1226.10/23/2007 3:58:00 AMThat they are Linux, rather than Windows. If the decision makers would consider Linux, these products might well be acceptable.
1227.10/23/2007 4:11:00 AMMy organization is so stuck on Windows and is too large and bureaucratic to change direction.
1228.10/23/2007 4:52:00 AMDefault configuration and install packages may not be suitable for business environment.
1229.10/23/2007 7:07:00 AMnone
1230.10/23/2007 9:39:00 AMThere is no pre-installed product available that meets all of our needs in one appliance and we do not want to have several appliances.
1231.10/23/2007 9:41:00 AMLike to build my own.
1232.10/23/2007 9:42:00 AM-
1233.10/23/2007 9:44:00 AMNot all Linux distributions are provided pre-installed. Mostly opensuse is not!
1234.10/23/2007 10:07:00 AMLack of applications
1235.10/23/2007 10:08:00 AMNo Foxpro in linux
1236.10/23/2007 10:14:00 AM- Cost - Handling - System on which it is pre-installed
1237.10/23/2007 10:36:00 AMtoo much unneeded stuff, too many problems adding applications from other sources (dependencies etc.)
1238.10/23/2007 10:42:00 AMwrong Linux distribution, video drivers problems
1239.10/23/2007 11:03:00 AMhave to be customized anyway
1240.10/23/2007 11:07:00 AMi can't run my win programs
1241.10/23/2007 11:18:00 AMNothing is trusted pre-installed, it would cause double work to reinstall again according to our preference
1242.10/23/2007 11:50:00 AMWe use heavily customised installs from our Red Hat Satellite server. Pre-installed software is always wiped during our installs.
1243.10/23/2007 11:54:00 AMI can do it better for myself
1244.10/23/2007 12:11:00 PMThere's no need for it. (At least for us.)
1245.10/23/2007 12:27:00 PMI like to setup a system on my own.
1246.10/23/2007 12:56:00 PMI don't want suse or ubuntu on the desktop. They are just to slow. Plus if I buy them allready installed they charge my extra. My Team/Me build all the client PCs ourself. Oneone needs a GeForce XXXX in a Desktop PC. A better PSU and a better fan is way more important.
1247.10/23/2007 12:56:00 PMAvailable system power/system configurations.
1248.10/23/2007 1:21:00 PMBloat, predominance of games and irrelevance. Lack of standardisation for in-house support
1249.10/23/2007 2:09:00 PMmost hardware is too weak or not compatible with environment
1250.10/23/2007 2:41:00 PMhard disk encryption
1251.10/23/2007 2:42:00 PMDebian
1252.10/23/2007 3:11:00 PMwe need educational support and software for students
1253.10/23/2007 3:23:00 PMwe can't be bind to one specific vendor
1254.10/23/2007 3:26:00 PMOur IT group and or individual engineers prefer to maintain or do their own installs.
1255.10/23/2007 3:48:00 PMlow end cad products dont run add on packages to assit design.
1256.10/23/2007 4:07:00 PMConfiguration and environment not well suited to requirements, therefore deploying own distro same amount of work with more 'known' about end product
1257.10/23/2007 4:23:00 PMCurrently there are two issues: *We are already equipped with enough computers, so migrating from windows to linux would replace windows on existing computers *Buying new computers with pre installed Linux would happen only if -an old computer breaks -we for sure don't need Windows running on it
1258.10/23/2007 4:28:00 PMNo real need for it (we have Linux IS experts in house). Configuration still required to operate with servers already installed (NIS, NFS automount, ntp, etc).
1259.10/23/2007 4:56:00 PMWe prefer to hand tune.
1260.10/23/2007 4:59:00 PMNo Major issue, the main problem is people use windows at home, and that is comfortable. In order to get linux at the office the OS must get into the home first and be pushed into the business. I.T. does not force onto the business the business forces onto I.T. Get the desktop on my CIO, CEO's pc's and laptops at home, and it will get into the business.
1261.10/23/2007 5:29:00 PMInteroperability with an existing Windows environment.
1262.10/23/2007 6:04:00 PMI use self assembled computers for the cost and quality.
1263.10/23/2007 6:11:00 PMadministrative software does not run on linux
1264.10/23/2007 6:11:00 PMLack of flexibility. We want to pick and choose
1265.10/23/2007 6:13:00 PMWe don't use Ubuntu on client desktops.
1266.10/23/2007 6:24:00 PMI have only seen 1 distro, I would like to see other distros from the Major Players.
1267.10/23/2007 6:26:00 PMThat it's probably not the distribution I whant to use an know how to use thats preinstalled
1268.10/23/2007 6:29:00 PMSecurity Reasons
1269.10/23/2007 6:31:00 PMMy school is so engrained with MS that any move to Linux would be fought because it's not MS
1270.10/23/2007 6:32:00 PMNothing specific.
1271.10/23/2007 6:33:00 PMdefault configuration not adapted to our needs. Better to do our own install.
1272.10/23/2007 6:36:00 PMThe effort needed to adept the preinstalled stuff is greater than to install our distribution of choice from scratch -- but it's the same with our ms windows clients - we always make a complete new install.
1273.10/23/2007 6:38:00 PMAvailability in our country (Indonesia) is very low. All pre-installed prodcuts are sold at USA or Europe.
1274.10/23/2007 6:40:00 PMPersonal requirements for configuration
1275.10/23/2007 6:40:00 PMNo major obstacles, the faculty simply has no interest in pre-installed systems.
1276.10/23/2007 6:42:00 PMour deployment is customized anyway
1277.10/23/2007 6:44:00 PMWe prepare master installations that are cloned to any system. So if we choose Linux we get Linux, no need that any vendor pre-installs it.
1278.10/23/2007 6:49:00 PMWe need to have linux AND windows on our systems, in a dual-boot. This combination is not offered by vendors.
1279.10/23/2007 6:53:00 PMdistribution, hardware
1280.10/23/2007 6:54:00 PMDo not match our requirements as a J2EE shop.
1281.10/23/2007 7:00:00 PMlack of quality in the programming with packaging. ie: konsole commands in the KDE browser
1282.10/23/2007 7:02:00 PMsupport with our current deployment of proprietary software and that very few users would be comfortable with the use of a linux solution.
1283.10/23/2007 7:02:00 PMIt's not that I wouldn't choose one, it just seems easier at the moment to build for ourselves.
1284.10/23/2007 7:05:00 PMLack of application support
1285.10/23/2007 7:10:00 PMMy employer signed a contract with IBM/lenovo. The offer is restrained to specific product. When I try to get a Lenovo laptop linux pre-installed is has been refused.
1286.10/23/2007 7:16:00 PMEach end user environment is personal to that user and each one is very different with different packages/versions installed.
1287.10/23/2007 7:26:00 PMpc hardware quality. We would better pc with Linux installed
1288.10/23/2007 7:27:00 PMLimited choice of distributions - preload of Ubuntu is most common - our resources are set up for RHEL/Fedora/CentOS and to a lesser extent SUSE.
1289.10/23/2007 7:36:00 PM-need a secure environment e.g. ssl 2.0 -need all password traffic encrypted e.g. cpn -need driver availability for various video cards and multi-monitor configurations -need mechanism to push security patches -need pxe-boot -need current kernel
1290.10/23/2007 7:42:00 PMOne of the great advantages of Linux is that there are so many different flavors of it available, and you can even create your own &quot;distribution&quot;... For me personally pre-installation is not a good idea, for users new to Linux it would be a great advantage. Either way, I would like to see: * pre-installed: yes, but you should be able to choose (e.g. Mandriva, SuSE, Ubuntu...) * THE MOST IMPORTAINT thing is that the hardware is fully supported by Linux, therefore, if additional (out of the vanilla linux kernel) drivers are required, they have to be shipped IN SOURCE CODE and as ready-to-use packages for the major distributions out there (at the time of shipping). * licensing: how about I buy a license of intellectual property for DVDs (libcss aka deCSS), MP3 (e.g. lame), MPEG-1 though MPEG-4, and all kinds of todays available licenses - together with the piece of hardware? That would be great, because it would allow me to use the Linux I prefer legally with all the features available today.
1291.10/23/2007 7:44:00 PMThey are not customized to our needs.
1292.10/23/2007 7:45:00 PMNo need for preistalled Linux desktops. We have skilled manpower to maintain our own installations.
1293.10/23/2007 7:47:00 PMNot the distrubution we want to use.
1294.10/23/2007 7:51:00 PMbase acceptance
1295.10/23/2007 7:52:00 PMOur organization is not looking to purchase hardware at this time.
1296.10/23/2007 7:55:00 PMI don't think it is issues with pre-installed linux, but linux itself. The concerns with deploying linux itself have already been discussed in this survey.
1297.10/23/2007 7:56:00 PMNone really. Just like to build our own stuff
1298.10/23/2007 7:58:00 PMOur desktops are highly customised to the endusers needs.
1299.10/23/2007 8:13:00 PMWe have an IT vendor installing Linux per our specification.
1300.10/23/2007 8:18:00 PMFor the common user the computer still is a kind of miracle - it can be dangerous or effectively pointing at the needed operation. It is easier not to read the manual and not spending time on configuration files. MS Windows seems to be very intuitive in usage. As long as this illusion is produced alternative operating systems go the more difficult way.
1301.10/23/2007 8:23:00 PMNot familiar with pre-installed products
1302.10/23/2007 8:31:00 PMMS Windows usage is a management decision.
1303.10/23/2007 8:38:00 PMcosts
1304.10/23/2007 8:38:00 PMMore flexibility when doing some unattended installations of only those apps, we need.
1305.10/23/2007 8:39:00 PMThese pre-installed products are not yet available in my country
1306.10/23/2007 8:51:00 PMToo much clutter on the system. Constant breakages (ex. Debian, SUSE, RHEL). Source-based distros are much more flexible and customizable. Install time is not a concern due to the fact that we have a large cluster that downloads and installs apps on all of out machines (which use identical processors).
1307.10/23/2007 8:53:00 PMWe would rather use our own package selection etc. and have standardised on using SuSE.
1308.10/23/2007 8:54:00 PMjust not common
1309.10/23/2007 9:14:00 PMNone, but for large deployments, we prefere creating our own disk images, and deploy them massively via the network We have a policy of buying large amounts of identical PCs and make a disk image per PC type
1310.10/23/2007 9:33:00 PMhuh?
1311.10/23/2007 9:45:00 PMWrong distribution pre-installed, we'd like to roll out our own
1312.10/23/2007 9:57:00 PMPrefer to install ourselves
1313.10/23/2007 10:12:00 PMFamiliarity, support, applications
1314.10/23/2007 10:27:00 PMNone of them support our distro of choice, PCLinuxOS.
1315.10/23/2007 10:35:00 PMnone
1316.10/23/2007 10:52:00 PMLack of control of initially installed features / applications.
1317.10/23/2007 11:00:00 PMperipherial support, multimedia, school applications
1318.10/23/2007 11:00:00 PMpre-configuration.. all configuration occurs when it gets here..
1319.10/23/2007 11:08:00 PMwe don't purchase ANY pre-installed products
1320.10/23/2007 11:12:00 PMNever tried one, so don't know.
1321.10/23/2007 11:18:00 PMI build all our computers
1322.10/23/2007 11:19:00 PMPro Microsoft contracts (money...)
1323.10/23/2007 11:21:00 PMCustom Configuration
1324.10/23/2007 11:21:00 PMhm...
1325.10/23/2007 11:31:00 PMDidn't I just answer this?
1326.10/23/2007 11:31:00 PMLack of familiarity with Linux capabilities across the organization and habitual use of Apple or Microsoft in the past.
1327.10/23/2007 11:39:00 PMnone
1328.10/23/2007 11:40:00 PMAt the moment we are an ACER Dealer and they have no pre-installed options
1329.10/23/2007 11:42:00 PMBudget for new computers vs upgrading current boxes
1330.10/23/2007 11:48:00 PMlack of distrobution selection
1331.10/23/2007 11:54:00 PMThe users that would be capable of using one of those products need other OS's due to software constraints.
1332.10/23/2007 11:57:00 PMThe hardware sucks, and the preinstallation tends to assume the user is a desktop idiot, or otherwise, to be some pain-in-the-ass distribution unsupportable without a support contact (eg RHEL). Perhaps, if we could get IBM Thinkpads running Ubuntu or stock Debian, maybe, but users tend to like their own personalised environments. The only possible reason for buying a preinstalled system is that it at least proves that drivers exist for the hardware. We'd then wipe it and start again.
1333.10/24/2007 12:00:00 AMNone. The choices for that question were too limiting. We have not been specifically waiting for pre-installed options, so cannot choose option 1.
1334.10/24/2007 12:03:00 AMmost are not high spec enough or do not have the required hardware
1335.10/24/2007 12:07:00 AMThey are unnecessary for us.
1336.10/24/2007 12:13:00 AMIT Department always insists on installing things their way, whatever the OS.
1337.10/24/2007 12:17:00 AMlack of choice, unsuitable specs on present offerings
1338.10/24/2007 12:18:00 AMPre-installed linux distro's (Ubuntu) aren't enterprise-ready
1339.10/24/2007 12:28:00 AMWindows is still needed yet, Linux can be easier added as dualboot
1340.10/24/2007 12:29:00 AMWe like do them ourselves.
1341.10/24/2007 12:38:00 AMNeed multiple vendors offering multiple distibutions
1342.10/24/2007 12:40:00 AMinability to customize linux for the organization. We would have to re-install it anyway.
1343.10/24/2007 12:44:00 AMUsers familiarity and dependence on MS Windows based products
1344.10/24/2007 12:51:00 AMToo much bloat/extra applications installed that I don't use (just like windows).
1345.10/24/2007 1:15:00 AMLinux desktops are already im place, no new systems will be needed in the near future.
1346.10/24/2007 1:21:00 AMNo issues with the products. We simply don't need the hardware right now.
1347.10/24/2007 1:34:00 AMDell, HP, CompaQ etc are not considered quality machines and would not be approved for purchase. No quality local hardware support for these 'disposable' type of computers.
1348.10/24/2007 1:38:00 AMThey're not installed on our existing hardware. Lack of confidence in long-term reliability and support.
1349.10/24/2007 1:42:00 AMIt's the mindset of the bosses. They're in love with apps that require Internet Explorer and MS Exchange. They love the Active Directory (not standard LDAP). And they think that &quot;it's not Microsoft.&quot;
1350.10/24/2007 1:44:00 AMchoice of distribution
1351.10/24/2007 1:46:00 AMLimited choices at the current time.
1352.10/24/2007 1:48:00 AMMost windows apps still don't run on Linux
1353.10/24/2007 1:49:00 AMApplication availability ...
1354.10/24/2007 1:57:00 AMDistribution we use (openSUSE) is different from pre-installed distribution (Ubuntu)
1355.10/24/2007 1:59:00 AMInstallation on existing equipment is simple enough.
1356.10/24/2007 2:03:00 AMI would. My TSSpec (Technology Support Specialist) told me about Dell's new Ubuntu Linux machines. I bought one, and it's great! I saved about $150! I can dial into the VPN, I can use Evolution instead of Outlook, I've got OpenOffice, I'm immune to all the viruses, and all the programs are free. But I still need a PC to run some stuff for school. That's going to be a problem for pretty much every classroom teacher in my district.
1357.10/24/2007 2:03:00 AMIT management is Windows-oriented.
1358.10/24/2007 2:05:00 AMNone, prefer to use my own.
1359.10/24/2007 2:06:00 AMActually there are no issues that prevent it, I simply feel that there is no need for the computers coming pre-installed.
1360.10/24/2007 2:07:00 AMToo general of an installation. Have to remove too many unused applications.
1361.10/24/2007 2:28:00 AMI just don't need them. Whether Windows, Linux, or Mac, preinstalled products always have shortcomings and require tweaking. Linux, particularly the Debian family, is simple enough to install and tailor to my needs, so I have little need to buy something prepackaged and fiddle around with it. Debian and cousins are also highly dependable, so there is little need for outside support.
1362.10/24/2007 2:37:00 AMNo issues, we do our own custom spin.
1363.10/24/2007 2:41:00 AMRHEL WS is very costly for desktop OS's. As we are standerdized on Red Hat, Global Desktop would be our best bet.
1364.10/24/2007 2:43:00 AMAppearance
1365.10/24/2007 2:44:00 AMnone... we use customized versions of linux
1366.10/24/2007 2:50:00 AMmy business has to have compatibility with vendors and partners who use micro$oft techhnology. while i love linux, and use it 100% at home, it is not compatibile enough on the desktop for my corporation to deploy it...much to my chagrin
1367.10/24/2007 3:04:00 AMThey could actually help in making sure that the hardware is supported on Linux, but developers tend to install their own distro of choice so we wouldn't get many of the benefits while getting a very limited choice of hardware.
1368.10/24/2007 3:06:00 AMnone at this time
1369.10/24/2007 3:10:00 AMLimited Linux Distributions
1370.10/24/2007 3:16:00 AMWe don't really need them for what we do.
1371.10/24/2007 3:21:00 AMIBM has to prequalify it with Notes and Powercenter. IBM naturally has it's head so far up it's butt it forgot the Markham boys work on Linux. Kind of like HP printer and HP notebook division. Neither talk to the other.
1372.10/24/2007 3:21:00 AMSimply that we don't need it to be preinstalled - by default, we simply install the OSes ourselves, and as often as possible order our machines without an OS at all. There's really not a major issue, so much as lack of a need for it.
1373.10/24/2007 3:25:00 AMWe make our own decisions.
1374.10/24/2007 3:31:00 AMI'm interested in server grade operating systems. Red Hat and Novell Enterprise would do, but Ubuntu is far from Enterprise grade by any means. I don't think people should offer it as even in the ballpark.
1375.10/24/2007 3:35:00 AMDefault installs are equivalent to the bloatware that comes with pre-installed windows
1376.10/24/2007 3:39:00 AMLack of appropriate software for our industry. Any software that does exist is too immature and/or unpolished to be useful. Windows 3.1 vs. Windows XP? Which would you pick? Linux desktop applications are currently Windows 3.1 level.
1377.10/24/2007 3:45:00 AMNo issues, I prefer to install.
1378.10/24/2007 4:24:00 AMNo issues at all.
1379.10/24/2007 4:24:00 AMinsufficient choice of models/vendors offerings compared to Windows; Lack of/ difficulty in updating /adding Drivers/peripheral support
1380.10/24/2007 4:42:00 AMInternal groupware depends on MS Window.
1381.10/24/2007 4:49:00 AMDell supports gun-control
1382.10/24/2007 4:58:00 AMApplications.
1383.10/24/2007 5:06:00 AMNot an issue with them, just the lack of mandatory software to allow our business to function.
1384.10/24/2007 5:06:00 AMNone.
1385.10/24/2007 5:06:00 AMcost, I usually build my own systems
1386.10/24/2007 5:22:00 AMUpper management not open to anything considered to be 'different' by mainstream media.
1387.10/24/2007 5:26:00 AMnone
1388.10/24/2007 5:29:00 AMWe don't really need preinstalled Linux. We could deploy ourselves, as long as there is driver support for the PC components.
1389.10/24/2007 5:31:00 AMNone with the pre-installed products, the major issue is the lack of our primary application (Autodesk/Microsoft)
1390.10/24/2007 5:31:00 AMNone, personal choice drives adoption with our users.
1391.10/24/2007 5:34:00 AMChoice of distributions, partitioning, flexibility
1392.10/24/2007 5:39:00 AMPersonally don't like Ubuntu
1393.10/24/2007 5:49:00 AMDecent Video cards and video capture. Need more hardware drivers. Better video editing software.
1394.10/24/2007 6:16:00 AMlack of application support
1395.10/24/2007 6:23:00 AMThere are no obstacles, but why not just take a blank canvas and install the user preference
1396.10/24/2007 6:34:00 AMWe deploy the OS by ourselves.
1397.10/24/2007 6:46:00 AMNone
1398.10/24/2007 6:52:00 AMThey do not offer any added value, as we have internal staff handling installation of new installations.
1399.10/24/2007 7:00:00 AMcorporate bigwigs scared by microsoft fud
1400.10/24/2007 7:06:00 AMYou have do adopt the system to your requirements anyway.
1401.10/24/2007 7:14:00 AMWe are building our machines by ourself.
1402.10/24/2007 7:19:00 AMWe always need to tweak the pre-installed stuff.
1403.10/24/2007 7:30:00 AMFlexibility, we want to build and configure the computers that we want, not some preconfigured pc.
1404.10/24/2007 7:41:00 AMDomain authentication, file sharing and the lack of user motivation to learn something new. I think Linux needs more media exposure.
1405.10/24/2007 7:54:00 AMIve never known a company to use the pre-installed OS. All companies ive ever worked with, for, heard of, seen, etc. Get a new system and immediately wipe and then place their own OS image, ghost, etc on the new system. To do it any other way is asking for support and change control trouble in the future.
1406.10/24/2007 8:25:00 AMPCLinuxOS is not offered by a major player (et ?)
1407.10/24/2007 8:32:00 AMprefer building from source code to provide more flexibility
1408.10/24/2007 8:37:00 AMinvested much time in customising our own set up, pre-installed products won't incolude these customisations.
1409.10/24/2007 8:39:00 AMThere are none, as for today there is just to few available products to choose from in our local market.
1410.10/24/2007 9:07:00 AMThey are not necessary to us.
1411.10/24/2007 9:14:00 AMDumbass toy desktops for dumbass lusers. If I wanted windows, I would run windows. Gimme something better.
1412.10/24/2007 9:15:00 AMWe prefer custom installs, so any existing Linux (or Windows) gets wiped and imaged fresh
1413.10/24/2007 9:22:00 AMWe exclusively develop our own desktop builds for all operating systems. We never rely on pre-installed OS's.
1414.10/24/2007 9:32:00 AMLimited to Ubuntu, Red Hat or Suse. We use Fedora.
1415.10/24/2007 9:33:00 AMHardware we want doesn't come with linux pre-installed. Only Windows.
1416.10/24/2007 9:48:00 AMHow well they fit into other infrastructure. Even all Windows desktop computers are re-installed here with a local default installation.
1417.10/24/2007 9:54:00 AMI roll my own.
1418.10/24/2007 10:06:00 AMThey are all Ubuntu based.
1419.10/24/2007 10:06:00 AMWe don&#180;t need them
1420.10/24/2007 10:11:00 AMNo need for them, would rather do my own deployments
1421.10/24/2007 10:12:00 AMWe build systems ourselves from hardware components. We like to have a certain choice as to what is installed on our systems
1422.10/24/2007 10:14:00 AMPersonally: none. I would be very happy if I could by a dell-laptop with linux. Professionally, almost everything is standarized to an MS xp, win2003, active directory environment.
1423.10/24/2007 10:23:00 AMHobby mostly. Run my own system while trying out different distros.
1424.10/24/2007 10:35:00 AMWe use mainly windows..
1425.10/24/2007 10:35:00 AMIt is easy enough to install linux ourselfs
1426.10/24/2007 10:35:00 AMcompatibility with existing applications (windows)
1427.10/24/2007 10:36:00 AMavailability across all variety of the vendor's product line and better price initiative (initial models with Linux seem no less expensive than their Windows counterparts)
1428.10/24/2007 10:40:00 AMWe are deploying Linux quite happily, and are very comfortable with it. So what benefit does pre-installed products give us?
1429.10/24/2007 10:41:00 AMdrivers
1430.10/24/2007 10:41:00 AMNot needed
1431.10/24/2007 10:45:00 AMi can install it by myself
1432.10/24/2007 10:46:00 AMWhy bother?
1433.10/24/2007 10:46:00 AMI want to have full control about my istallation, dependency hell...
1434.10/24/2007 10:48:00 AMWe have an image that has virtuallized Windows on it that we deploy.
1435.10/24/2007 10:54:00 AMI prefere my own instalations.
1436.10/24/2007 10:57:00 AMour installed systems are highly customized, installation is a very little part of the time spent to make the system ready for usage. and only a small part of computers are available with preinstalled linux distros. we need well supported hardware, working kernel modules, but we don't need out of the box working pcs or laptops
1437.10/24/2007 11:01:00 AMHabit. My boss would rather keep throwing money and resources on Windows, because he &quot;knows&quot; how to use it. Also, to be honest there are a few apps, which range from our product quote software, to the CAD applications, which are not available on Linux and/or require MS Access. If it were not for these issues, we would have dumped MS a long time back.
1438.10/24/2007 11:03:00 AMWe are using disk imaging technology to install OS and apps.
1439.10/24/2007 11:07:00 AMDoes not fit the needs.
1440.10/24/2007 11:10:00 AMused distro
1441.10/24/2007 11:10:00 AMNot Needed
1442.10/24/2007 11:10:00 AMWe don't need them.
1443.10/24/2007 11:13:00 AMLack of applications
1444.10/24/2007 11:15:00 AMNeed for very customized Linux installation due to organization needs
1445.10/24/2007 11:17:00 AMSub-par hardware.
1446.10/24/2007 11:17:00 AMno issues. We can download linux and install it ourself.
1447.10/24/2007 11:27:00 AMStill need customize.
1448.10/24/2007 11:30:00 AMThey are Linux distributions that we would not ever want to use. Prefer pure Debian
1449.10/24/2007 11:30:00 AMintegration into own infrastructure, lack of overview, what's installed too many different setups necessary
1450.10/24/2007 11:35:00 AMJust not applicable for us
1451.10/24/2007 11:35:00 AMpre-installed products are for novice, begginers and lamers, they click on icon of webrowser and they are happy I need own settings of computer (which filesystem, partition on disk, which raid etc.)
1452.10/24/2007 11:37:00 AMPre-installation is not necessary. We currently own the equipment on which we want to install our own configurations; and, we do not know whether the pre-installed product configurations will meet our needs.
1453.10/24/2007 11:40:00 AMlack of choice and flexiblity
1454.10/24/2007 11:44:00 AMMuch of the development and company operation is still too much MS Windows dependent.
1455.10/24/2007 11:45:00 AMNo need for them since I download and install whatever I see of interest
1456.10/24/2007 11:48:00 AMConfiguring from scratch or some bare distribution is usually faster and ends up in less unnnecessary stuff being installed.
1457.10/24/2007 11:51:00 AMPrefer to configure it to my own needs
1458.10/24/2007 11:52:00 AMSpecific version of kernel and applications installed due to testing requirements and environmental concerns.
1459.10/24/2007 11:56:00 AMDELL does not sell Linux-installed Desktops through it's Premier sales site, which is where I'm forced to buy all my PC's due a my corporations Strategic Sourcing agreement.
1460.10/24/2007 12:00:00 PMAbscense of linux software we require
1461.10/24/2007 12:03:00 PMnone, we are able to use recycled win pc's and any given linux distro for desktop deployment
1462.10/24/2007 12:04:00 PMNo need
1463.10/24/2007 12:04:00 PMActualy this is not an issue, we just are not waiting for those pre-installed products.
1464.10/24/2007 12:06:00 PMChoice of distribution. We prefer clean machines.
1465.10/24/2007 12:07:00 PMThis organization has made a commitment to standardize on Windows wherever possible. Me personally, Linux does not run Internet Explorer, Outlook, or integrate well with Sharepoint (all of which are important to working in my organization). I can run Linux only because I have multiple PCs. That said, I spend most of my time on the Linux machine.
1466.10/24/2007 12:07:00 PMNot enough customization for our business, security concerns...
1467.10/24/2007 12:08:00 PMno issue, but i don't need them
1468.10/24/2007 12:14:00 PMNo major issues, but installing Linux ourselves is just as easy.
1469.10/24/2007 12:16:00 PMThere are no major issues with pre-installed products. We are in the habbit of per-configuring/tailoring the products in house. This is how we deploy our windows machines so I believe that this would not change.
1470.10/24/2007 12:23:00 PMI don't need any, Debian iso's do everything I need and I already own all the hardware I need.
1471.10/24/2007 12:27:00 PMtimely updates of versions
1472.10/24/2007 12:34:00 PMPrefer to configure the machines as we want rather then how Dell/HP/Whoever decide.
1473.10/24/2007 12:41:00 PMToo many apps loaded by default. Since I have to trim them anyway, I might as well load from scratch.
1474.10/24/2007 12:43:00 PMthe type of product, we need quickbooks native, and a CAD program.
1475.10/24/2007 12:44:00 PMWe are mostly a Microsoft shop. Our accounting system (time cards, expense reports, etc.) requires ActiveX. We also use active directory to manage domain configuration and application deployment. We need that ability for Linux workstations. We would like to see legal codecs (with browser plugins) installed during installation.
1476.10/24/2007 12:44:00 PMNeed for deep customisation. Our environment is quite specific.
1477.10/24/2007 12:48:00 PMConsistency with our server platforms (one distribution to maintain vs 2 or 3). Not supported by the vendors that write the commercial software we run on the desktops (CAD/CAE/etc).
1478.10/24/2007 12:48:00 PMHave not investigated far enough to answer.
1479.10/24/2007 12:53:00 PMWe would be reinstalling anyway, so pre-installation is irrelevant.
1480.10/24/2007 12:56:00 PMSupport for persons with disabilities.
1481.10/24/2007 12:56:00 PMI am more likely to buy a cheap refurbished system and install Linux myself...charities just don't have a lot of money.
1482.10/24/2007 12:59:00 PMWe would rather avoid a potential customer lock-in, which is our primary reason the break free from Microsoft (this concerns e.g. Red Hat or SLED). Ubuntu-based solutions would be acceptable, but are not yet adequately supported by compiler (Intel, Portland, IBM) and library vendors (IBM, NAG, IMSL...)
1483.10/24/2007 1:00:00 PMThe need for multi-booting capability, and the need for specialized setups.
1484.10/24/2007 1:00:00 PMI usually configure my &quot;own system&quot; for my needs, so I do not need anything pre-installed.
1485.10/24/2007 1:06:00 PMJust prefer to install Fedora myself
1486.10/24/2007 1:08:00 PMNo need, installing Linux is no problem.
1487.10/24/2007 1:10:00 PMMS Office Suite and 3rd party application support
1488.10/24/2007 1:14:00 PMNo ported software available
1489.10/24/2007 1:17:00 PMLack of device driver support.
1490.10/24/2007 1:18:00 PMMost of them are on medium to lower-class hardware
1491.10/24/2007 1:19:00 PMnormally we do all installations by ourselves, so we can choose the packages we need but i think a preinstalled computer can be also a good thing.
1492.10/24/2007 1:21:00 PMThere are no issues. We would simply prefer to do our own installation on existing hardware.
1493.10/24/2007 1:24:00 PMThey cost money. Management doesn't like paying for things.
1494.10/24/2007 1:27:00 PMThis was the question: What are the major issues with these pre-installed products that would prevent you from choosing one? There were no choices on the screen to choose from.
1495.10/24/2007 1:29:00 PMmust be competitively available for our chosen distro (SLED/openSUSE); Ubuntu is out as we've already standardized on Novell
1496.10/24/2007 1:30:00 PMWe're IT college, so everybody can install any distro he/she likes, on his/her own.
1497.10/24/2007 1:35:00 PM1. Lack of basic features which is in Windows and takes too much time to use/implement or work around in linux 2. Relaible import/export to windows in all apps. Customers maily use windows. 3. lack of templates
1498.10/24/2007 1:37:00 PMDesktop with linux preinstalled from dell and other oems are mostly geared toward home users or windows replacement clients. At our organization we use linux for development and other uses and the preconfigured desktops don't meet our standards for these tasks.
1499.10/24/2007 1:41:00 PMWe prefer to install Linux ourselves.
1500.10/24/2007 1:42:00 PMmy company sucks!
1501.10/24/2007 1:42:00 PMInertia, lack of imagination on the part of CEO
1502.10/24/2007 1:43:00 PMWe have licenses of oracle just for windows, because of political decision. And all the tecnicall stuff thinks about windows
1503.10/24/2007 1:44:00 PMNo issues; we simply have the expertise on board to customize it ourselves.
1504.10/24/2007 1:44:00 PMDon't need - we build our own boxes
1505.10/24/2007 1:45:00 PM---
1506.10/24/2007 1:47:00 PMAll images are branded with Organization logo and setup for remote management.
1507.10/24/2007 1:47:00 PMWe have network installs for our different OSes, so any pre-installed software is a waste of time.
1508.10/24/2007 1:48:00 PM64-bit compatability. Hardware compatability. Software compatability.
1509.10/24/2007 1:50:00 PMNo problem, but it would be inaccurate to answer 'Yes' to 'Yes, our organization has been waiting for pre-installed Linux offerings.'
1510.10/24/2007 1:53:00 PMWe don't need them. We can easily install the distro we want.
1511.10/24/2007 1:56:00 PMfinancial
1512.10/24/2007 1:56:00 PMNone.
1513.10/24/2007 2:00:00 PMOur current Linux usage involves engineering software, FEA, CFD, etc. and this software requires the use of a specific versions of Linux. We do not have any issues with the pre-installed Linux products and may use such products for future desktop/laptop deployments when appropriate.
1514.10/24/2007 2:01:00 PMcost
1515.10/24/2007 2:05:00 PMcost
1516.10/24/2007 2:13:00 PMNot so much a major issue. Current uses, however, necessitate custom installs.
1517.10/24/2007 2:14:00 PMavailability and cost. Suppoort is poor.
1518.10/24/2007 2:15:00 PMNot tailored to our industry. We use gentoo because we may require unusual combinations of applications. By compiling from source we're able to choose library versions as required in order to support a eclectic set of applications.
1519.10/24/2007 2:15:00 PMNone really.
1520.10/24/2007 2:17:00 PMconfiguration, int. property problems (mp3 support...)
1521.10/24/2007 2:18:00 PMWe redo installations anyway, so it does not matter if Linux is pre installed
1522.10/24/2007 2:22:00 PMmostly training of desktop support people.
1523.10/24/2007 2:23:00 PMNeeds to be customised.
1524.10/24/2007 2:26:00 PMThey are prepped by the IT department anyway, a custom customer pre-installation is used now for windows. This could be the case with linux as well.
1525.10/24/2007 2:26:00 PMThis organization installs their own desktops. No need for a pre installed product.
1526.10/24/2007 2:29:00 PMNot a problem with the preinstalled products, we just need to have preset user rights, and security features.
1527.10/24/2007 2:30:00 PMPrefer to customize installation instead of a pat installation for all users
1528.10/24/2007 2:31:00 PMDoen't match the whole company structure
1529.10/24/2007 2:31:00 PMWe usually stick to something(OS/Software) that is more standard and being supported longterm as there are some mission critical applications(like SAS and other apps) that are intended to be availbale to users on a 24x7 basis. I personally beleive that Linux is pretty much ready for that but it's just the ignorance among the users/management that's preventing it from adopting in corporate environments. One more thing to note is that even today a lot of people beleive that the limitation of hardware exists in Linux which I personally do not accept. Other limitation on Linux that is preventing it from more adaptability is that a lot of people think that it is rather difficult for a normal user to manage/install/configure the system when compared to Windows.
1530.10/24/2007 2:32:00 PMAlready have a distribution.
1531.10/24/2007 2:35:00 PMNo vendor on approved list that supplies them.
1532.10/24/2007 2:36:00 PMHave traditionally built our own computers
1533.10/24/2007 2:40:00 PMWe would deploy our own corporate OS image to ensure the applications our users need are installed.
1534.10/24/2007 2:43:00 PMI would prefer to pick my own Linux Distributions but I would consider choosing a pre-installed computer with Linux if everything worked out of the box.
1535.10/24/2007 2:45:00 PMnone
1536.10/24/2007 2:47:00 PMWe always like to tweak the Linux installation to our liking which is not available in Pre Installed products
1537.10/24/2007 2:48:00 PMno choice in distro
1538.10/24/2007 2:50:00 PMAvailability of specific applications.
1539.10/24/2007 2:51:00 PMIt isn't that there may be issues with the pre-installed products, it is that in our operation, our system admin does clean installs on all machines, and would do likewise when installing linux on existing and new machines.
1540.10/24/2007 2:52:00 PMtoo much software in them. We need specialized images for Java development, Asp.Net development etc. which you can only copy om HDD and run in ~20mns.
1541.10/24/2007 2:54:00 PMOUR USE DOSE NOT REQUIRE TOP DRAWER HARDWARE. WE CAN REUSE OLDER USED UNITS FOR MUCH LESS CAPATOP OUTLAY
1542.10/24/2007 2:56:00 PMCurrent configurations vs. support issues, distributions used are fine but the preference is to use pre-configured images for deployment
1543.10/24/2007 3:02:00 PMNone. Don't need the, our staff is good enough to install from distro on fresh hardware
1544.10/24/2007 3:06:00 PMfull choice linux desktop (after selecting gentoo desktop distro ;-)
1545.10/24/2007 3:09:00 PMLack of choice (e.g. no Debian) and control over the initial setup.
1546.10/24/2007 3:10:00 PMchoice, custom configurations
1547.10/24/2007 3:12:00 PMSupport of Linux on these systems seems to be just another way to make more money. The companies that I have looked at don't seem to be really behind the idea of offering Linux as an alternative to Windows.
1548.10/24/2007 3:17:00 PMCost. I can find alternative hardware at lower cost and install the distribution(s) of choice.
1549.10/24/2007 3:19:00 PMAll internal hardware is upgraded on a per-component basis, any solution that would entail the purchase of an entire new machine would not meet our requirements due to cost concerns and the number of machines that would be replaced.
1550.10/24/2007 3:20:00 PMnothing really, the major obstacles to linux adoption in this organization are: need to migrate existing templates for forms and spreadsheets to a suitable linux alternative, user training, and inertia.
1551.10/24/2007 3:21:00 PMNone. Installing Linux has never been a problem. Lack of standardization is biggest problem
1552.10/24/2007 3:24:00 PMThe hardware does not correspond to our requirements.
1553.10/24/2007 3:29:00 PMsimply prefer to do it ourselves, our way
1554.10/24/2007 3:31:00 PMEnd user unfamiliarity.
1555.10/24/2007 3:34:00 PMdon't include the correct software and packagegs
1556.10/24/2007 3:38:00 PMWe feel more comfortable with no-brand PCs. That does not mean we enjoy garden variety components. We have, i.e., already settled with Intel's motherboards.
1557.10/24/2007 3:38:00 PMHardware is dated
1558.10/24/2007 3:40:00 PMWe prefer to install products ourselves.
1559.10/24/2007 3:44:00 PMToo little, too late! I've been using Linux for 12 years...
1560.10/24/2007 3:44:00 PMgood working package manager
1561.10/24/2007 3:45:00 PMWe build our own hardware.
1562.10/24/2007 3:49:00 PMno need for them
1563.10/24/2007 3:56:00 PMCurrent compatability with office based applications including MS Visio, MS Project, Autocad, Solidworks, etc...
1564.10/24/2007 3:57:00 PMIt's easy enough to install linux myself. And it's critical to have Windows platform available for testing purposes, as we do Internet/web site development.
1565.10/24/2007 4:02:00 PMNo real need, they are usually lower end machines that we don't really use anyway.
1566.10/24/2007 4:02:00 PMlinux isn't windows...command line turns people off, linux not really ready for prime time...to do the command line, it is frustrating.
1567.10/24/2007 4:04:00 PMLinux and our current Windows machines do not communicate well.
1568.10/24/2007 4:04:00 PMNone, pre-installed presents no advantage
1569.10/24/2007 4:06:00 PMPrefer to install my own, well-known environment.
1570.10/24/2007 4:09:00 PMDifferent distros, but we'd favour systems with pre-installed Linux over ones with Windows as long as the hardware meets our requirements
1571.10/24/2007 4:11:00 PMprefer to configure the systems manually for their specific applications.
1572.10/24/2007 4:12:00 PMChoice of Distribution installed.
1573.10/24/2007 4:18:00 PMI prefer to install system myself.
1574.10/24/2007 4:21:00 PMNone, we would just prefer to configure our products from the ground up on our own. Nine times our of ten this means a fresh installation of everything on each system, so why bother with pre-installed?
1575.10/24/2007 4:21:00 PMWe operate mainly on donated equipment.
1576.10/24/2007 4:25:00 PMnothing
1577.10/24/2007 4:29:00 PMCustom applications, system &amp; security. Custom build necessary in certain areas.
1578.10/24/2007 4:29:00 PMDo not work with all our system management (e.g VMware infrastrucure client, Dell DRAC console) software.
1579.10/24/2007 4:29:00 PMNo issues, we install them ourselfes
1580.10/24/2007 4:34:00 PMNone. Our organization simply has so much inertia, and our technical support staff is so ignorant of anything non-MS, that issues like pre-installed Linux aren't relevant.
1581.10/24/2007 4:36:00 PMuse of existing equipment
1582.10/24/2007 4:36:00 PMApplications do not match all our business needs.
1583.10/24/2007 4:40:00 PMWe have our own defined applications and system on a modified Novell SUSE system. No need to have it pre-installed.
1584.10/24/2007 4:41:00 PMThe available pre-installed distributions do not meet our standards level because of their lack of a high QA level (specially Ubuntu).
1585.10/24/2007 4:45:00 PMEngineering Apps
1586.10/24/2007 4:59:00 PMManagement does not see the need to change to a linux environment.
1587.10/24/2007 5:00:00 PMDon't need it
1588.10/24/2007 5:02:00 PMDistribution/configuration availability
1589.10/24/2007 5:06:00 PMJust for home use. Prefer to install myself
1590.10/24/2007 5:12:00 PMSecurity
1591.10/24/2007 5:15:00 PMMicrosoft. ;)
1592.10/24/2007 5:17:00 PMI like to use Debian for many reasons. I want control over what is placed on each computer in my small business.
1593.10/24/2007 5:21:00 PMComputers are assembled within the organization, then installed with software. Pre-installed OSes are meaningless to our systems.
1594.10/24/2007 5:23:00 PMUnnecessarily restrictive. Limited, poor quality hardware which is nonetheless expensive.
1595.10/24/2007 5:25:00 PMNone, at present
1596.10/24/2007 5:28:00 PMPrice. No need to pay for it, we have our own experienced staff.
1597.10/24/2007 5:31:00 PMbloatware
1598.10/24/2007 5:32:00 PMWe have stringent security and preinstalled software requirements. It is easier for us to create a customized image for our end users rather than use a stock one from a vendor.
1599.10/24/2007 5:37:00 PMWhile we would be interested in some pre-installed products we would prefer to build the machines we do the majority of our work on ourselves.
1600.10/24/2007 5:39:00 PMSecurity
1601.10/24/2007 5:39:00 PMDon't have any issues with pre-installed products. We have standardized on CentOS due to the in house applications we develop and distribute with application specific hardware we develop and sell. If there were a standardized installer for Linux that was usable on any distribution, then it might not be necessary to standardize on a specific distro.
1602.10/24/2007 5:47:00 PMThey're generally not configured the way we want, or it's not the distro we use (SuSE). We have no problem installing the products ourselves, so it's just not much of an issue.
1603.10/24/2007 5:51:00 PMI'm not familiar with the pre-installed linux products, never used one or even seen one, so I don't know.
1604.10/24/2007 5:51:00 PMWe reinstall the OS on every device that gets connected to our network.
1605.10/24/2007 5:54:00 PMFull driver support
1606.10/24/2007 5:57:00 PMCost to train staff and end users
1607.10/24/2007 5:58:00 PMNot yet necessary in our desktop environment since our clients do not target Linux as the deployment environment
1608.10/24/2007 5:59:00 PMThey suffer from the same problems as any other Linux install: incomplete native MS Office support. This is more of a psychological hurdle with management, as MS Office can be virtualized or run via WINE easily.
1609.10/24/2007 6:00:00 PMDISA Security guideline compliance
1610.10/24/2007 6:09:00 PMinertia
1611.10/24/2007 6:17:00 PMWe already install our own.
1612.10/24/2007 6:17:00 PMThey are usually late with the updates.
1613.10/24/2007 6:20:00 PMprobably missing professional support for these preinstalled products
1614.10/24/2007 6:24:00 PMDependency on 3rd party application which integrate into MS Windows at a system level.
1615.10/24/2007 6:28:00 PMI don't know of any that are photo centric, so I'll choose to do it myself and customize the installation as needed
1616.10/24/2007 6:33:00 PMprice, need (don't need)
1617.10/24/2007 6:36:00 PMThe Linux Desktop products are only low end devices.
1618.10/24/2007 6:40:00 PMNo perceived need for pre-installation.
1619.10/24/2007 6:40:00 PMWe don't even use the pre-installed versions of Windows. We produce our own builds to make sure the machines have exactly what we want installed on them. We'd probably do the same with linux, too.
1620.10/24/2007 6:45:00 PMThey typically are not based on Debian, the Linux distribution we're most accustomed to
1621.10/24/2007 6:54:00 PMNothing particular just no specific advantage and it is easy to install and configure to suit our own requirements. Could use though if a cost advantage.
1622.10/24/2007 6:58:00 PMLinux can't run Dreamweaver, Outlook, Photoshop, Visio, MS Project
1623.10/24/2007 6:58:00 PMn/a. Not an issue. I have no problems installing.
1624.10/24/2007 7:01:00 PMPossibility of unknown/undocumented vendor customization of the distro/setup.
1625.10/24/2007 7:07:00 PMWe roll our own
1626.10/24/2007 7:15:00 PMcustomization
1627.10/24/2007 7:15:00 PMMinimal choice of distribution
1628.10/24/2007 7:17:00 PMDevice drivers
1629.10/24/2007 7:19:00 PMLack of flexibility? For laptops it might work, but for the desktops it would bring rather complications than gain/simplicity.
1630.10/24/2007 7:35:00 PMYou always have to re-do them, installation is not an issue for Linux
1631.10/24/2007 7:35:00 PMCustomization work to fullfill work needs.
1632.10/24/2007 7:41:00 PM* Application quality (as noted above) * Peripheral support * Which distro to choose and why? * Habits - one cannot expect a new hire to be fluent in Gimp, but one does expect one to be fluent in Photoshop (and similar parallels) * More and more pseudo-Web applications that require Microsoft products everywhere
1633.10/24/2007 7:43:00 PMI would choose one, but that's not my area.
1634.10/24/2007 7:51:00 PMOur users need the freedom to choose they're own setups within the larger organisational requirements
1635.10/24/2007 7:51:00 PMunwillingness of IT to make users switch
1636.10/24/2007 8:07:00 PMLinux laptops are available, and I prefer to roll my own desktops. Hence, neither is an obstacle.
1637.10/24/2007 8:12:00 PMWe have already customized version of a Linux client
1638.10/24/2007 8:15:00 PMThe ability to customise what is installed. There is probably more choice as to what can be installed with a non preinstalled Linux. eg. browser type, email client type etc.
1639.10/24/2007 8:16:00 PMCost does not justify purchase compared to other options.
1640.10/24/2007 8:16:00 PMNo possibility to select the linux distribution.
1641.10/24/2007 8:22:00 PMNothing.
1642.10/24/2007 8:28:00 PMApplication compatibility (mostly MS Office)
1643.10/24/2007 8:46:00 PMAcountability
1644.10/24/2007 8:50:00 PMSince we are a non-profit, it is much more cost effective to install Linux on donated hardware.
1645.10/24/2007 8:55:00 PMIt is not that I wouldn't choose one it is that installing myself is not an obstacle and is my preffered method.
1646.10/24/2007 9:00:00 PMnot my distro of choice
1647.10/24/2007 9:01:00 PMavailability
1648.10/24/2007 9:03:00 PMOpenSuse
1649.10/24/2007 9:12:00 PMCustomization
1650.10/24/2007 9:16:00 PMSupport for our organizations critical application
1651.10/24/2007 9:17:00 PMI don't trust any vendor to pre-install an operating system whether it is Linux or not. They all take advantage of that to cripple the installation with bloatware or goofy default settings.
1652.10/24/2007 9:18:00 PMnot yet adopted by the government.
1653.10/24/2007 9:36:00 PMWe primarily use thin clients with a single LTSP server.
1654.10/24/2007 9:47:00 PMLower end laptops availability
1655.10/24/2007 9:48:00 PMNone, we simply prefer to use our own linux distribution.
1656.10/24/2007 9:48:00 PMWe custom build our machines.
1657.10/24/2007 9:57:00 PMlimited choice of OS
1658.10/24/2007 10:01:00 PMHave no need for them
1659.10/24/2007 10:21:00 PMCost
1660.10/24/2007 10:23:00 PMApplication availability.
1661.10/24/2007 10:26:00 PMNo Issues. I just do not need it. But it's cool to have if the need arises.
1662.10/24/2007 10:27:00 PMFaculty will not teach Linux to users who are entering business where MS is at 90% share.
1663.10/24/2007 10:28:00 PMAcquisition costs are unreasonable in light of the lower cost operating system. As a result, we order motherboards, CPUs, Memory, etc, and assemble our own computers and servers.
1664.10/24/2007 10:35:00 PMI prefer to make my own custom install - including custom apps - and then clone this to other workstations. It means 1) That our users have well defined applications/configs to ensure that they can do everything they need to do and 2) I know exactly how each of the workstations are configured within our corporate network, making sysadmin tasks easier for the team.
1665.10/24/2007 10:39:00 PMPartitioning, Package customization, custom environment handling, Name services...
1666.10/24/2007 10:48:00 PMWould rather install my choices.
1667.10/24/2007 10:48:00 PMNot a need for pre-installed Linux. All desktop/clients use custom image.
1668.10/24/2007 10:58:00 PMNone specifically.
1669.10/24/2007 11:01:00 PMIt is foolish to assume that one installation can serve every client's needs. Anyone requiring &quot;deployment&quot; should be building images in-house. OEM's such as a Dell should selling barebones workstations and notebooks with optional Linux CD's thrown into the box, not on the hard drive.
1670.10/24/2007 11:02:00 PMWe have a technically literate development and IT staff. We install what we need.
1671.10/24/2007 11:07:00 PMOur organization does allow a PC or server with a pre-installed OS to be put onto a production network. This would constitute a security violation - only accredited baseline OS configurations are permitted. Each additional application needed must be accredited as a &quot;baseline plus&quot; application.
1672.10/24/2007 11:10:00 PMI like to roll my own
1673.10/24/2007 11:18:00 PMThey're not Pro Audio Recording oriented.
1674.10/24/2007 11:25:00 PMEven with reduced costs, we can't afford to buy new hardware, simply to reuse our old.
1675.10/24/2007 11:50:00 PMLimited choice, prefer Gentoo as it gives onus to IT to setup it too company specs
1676.10/24/2007 11:51:00 PMMainly my company decision to use microsoft products. We do however use linux in certain areas, but it must be configured to our needs and i dont think that there are any pre-installed one's with debian...
1677.10/24/2007 11:54:00 PMWe build these, why would we purchase them from someone else?
1678.10/24/2007 11:56:00 PMNo applications that we need. 1) There is no Free database dev environment like Microsoft Access to build our custom apps on. (OpenOffice DB is terrible. All the complexity of Access, but with out the features.) 2) No availability of good Free finance software. (Quickbooks work-alike,) 3) No availability of good Free graphics software. Need Photoshop/InDesign work-alike. (GIMP needs to die.)
1679.10/25/2007 12:05:00 AMwe need our own special environment and setup
1680.10/25/2007 12:34:00 AMThey are not RedHat-based.
1681.10/25/2007 12:44:00 AMI like to install myself.
1682.10/25/2007 1:02:00 AMNot Sufficient options of Distributions.
1683.10/25/2007 1:32:00 AMwell my company has no linux desktops :-) i have one at home but that's it :-) ... and what's preventing the company from buying linux desktop ? the're no interest in it ... pre-installed or not ...
1684.10/25/2007 1:36:00 AMcost
1685.10/25/2007 1:38:00 AMnothing
1686.10/25/2007 2:08:00 AMLack of customization particular to the company's needs.
1687.10/25/2007 2:19:00 AMnothing, I just would prefer to install the OS myself
1688.10/25/2007 2:26:00 AMWe are perfectly comfortable building our own computers to our specifications and installing the OS without vendor assistance.
1689.10/25/2007 2:31:00 AMNone, we install everything ourselves
1690.10/25/2007 2:37:00 AMIf it was with some other operating system than Ubuntu
1691.10/25/2007 2:56:00 AMVendor provided support instead of community provided support
1692.10/25/2007 2:57:00 AMWe already are using linux on 99% of company computers. why would we want them?
1693.10/25/2007 3:18:00 AMCompatibility
1694.10/25/2007 3:28:00 AMThe ability to run our main application (SoftPak) or a Citrix client that can leverage Presentation server 4.5
1695.10/25/2007 3:29:00 AMNever satsified with pre-installed configurations on any machine. Always need some tuning
1696.10/25/2007 3:33:00 AMWe use our own install process with Red Hat Kickstart to ensure new machines are automatically set up for our environment.
1697.10/25/2007 4:02:00 AMprefer to configure systems ourselves to our specific needs. Black Box systems tend to be more trouble then there worth.
1698.10/25/2007 4:03:00 AMMore control of things such as disk partitioning and application selection when doing the installation yourself.
1699.10/25/2007 4:21:00 AMNothing prevents it; we just don't require it. We would purchase preinstalls for replacement hardware.
1700.10/25/2007 4:37:00 AMWe require specific installation configurations to meed our FDA requirements.
1701.10/25/2007 4:42:00 AMThe images have not been optimized enough. Like more reviews shows, it's just the stock distribution installed on those machines. Just like no large organization actually use the preloaded Windows image, same thing will happen to Linux. It's a necessary step from a perception standpoint but an exercise in futility.
1702.10/25/2007 4:48:00 AMour vendor specific (Synopsys, Cadence etc) application does not run reliable on preinstaled workstation
1703.10/25/2007 5:00:00 AMdistro choice, the ones offered are ones which have been tried and found wanting. debian preferred here
1704.10/25/2007 5:01:00 AMwe have standardized our hardware model on HP laptops and desktop. Currently HP does no offer pre-installed linux on low-end desktops or laptops. The only offer a &quot;driver pack&quot; without the OS, and that is only for their high-end workstations. Regardless, the major obstacle for us in in-house applications.
1705.10/25/2007 5:10:00 AMdon't meet the business requirements.
1706.10/25/2007 5:18:00 AMpre-installed is is the initial state of the PC: subsequent states are more the challenge patching, version upgrades, rebuilding drive images, ...
1707.10/25/2007 5:19:00 AMAs a administror I don't know what someone installed on the box and I like to know with whom I am working.
1708.10/25/2007 5:31:00 AMStill too few native applications for use.
1709.10/25/2007 5:41:00 AMWe do not need one, we are already a 100% linux shop with 1 Vista machine (needed to configure a Firewall Appliance (and we are annoyed and will not purchase from that company again)).
1710.10/25/2007 6:00:00 AMUniformity
1711.10/25/2007 6:14:00 AMno issues, it just wouldn't help us.
1712.10/25/2007 6:30:00 AMDon't NEED it pre-installed, ever. We have the in-house capability. Buy solid hardware, Linux runs. If could get two apps ported or running under virtual... we'd be 100% Linux again.
1713.10/25/2007 7:07:00 AMinstallation is easy. no need to.
1714.10/25/2007 7:51:00 AMI prefer to set up machines myself, so that I can control applicatios, services etc.
1715.10/25/2007 7:51:00 AMWe do the installs in house.
1716.10/25/2007 8:24:00 AMi need custom configuration
1717.10/25/2007 8:28:00 AMI have never seen or tested a pre-installed GNU/Linux box. I would consider them just like I would consider any other OS/hardware product based on value/price, etc.
1718.10/25/2007 8:38:00 AMWe have good enough knowledge already to be able to deploy it ourselves.
1719.10/25/2007 9:04:00 AMNone, but we always do our own installations anyway so we don't need any pre-installed product.
1720.10/25/2007 9:07:00 AMcompatibility with current business applications like the microsoft suite, lotus notes and SAP
1721.10/25/2007 9:30:00 AMThere is so much customisation that would be required to get the preinstalled distro to meet our requirements that it's just as easy to install it ourselves. But knowing that linux will work on that hardware is a huge advantage!
1722.10/25/2007 9:35:00 AMPrice
1723.10/25/2007 9:39:00 AMCustom OS configuration requirements
1724.10/25/2007 10:00:00 AMno issues, employees may choose their own desktop
1725.10/25/2007 10:07:00 AMPre-installed linux does not come with the distro of our choice mainly. Moreover, linux machines we use are very light on applications and heavy on the computational side. So machines run just basic installation and remaining are added when needed.
1726.10/25/2007 10:10:00 AMWe require complete control over our desktop images for security reasons.
1727.10/25/2007 10:12:00 AM- too wide set of application - unprepared to fit distributed user/systems managemet
1728.10/25/2007 10:27:00 AMNone suit our needs as well as the systems we build.
1729.10/25/2007 10:33:00 AMnot aplicable
1730.10/25/2007 10:43:00 AMOUR IT IS ONLY WINDOWS-MINDED AND THEY SUCK
1731.10/25/2007 11:04:00 AMWhile they sure are great for home users we need our own system images with all changes applied to them.
1732.10/25/2007 11:17:00 AMNone actually, we just like to build our equipment from the scratch.
1733.10/25/2007 11:23:00 AMFrom Dell for example, some of the hardware that ships with the computer is unused or unusable because of lack of support for the hardware on Linux
1734.10/25/2007 11:34:00 AMEvery our linux user have specific setting and favorite distributions.
1735.10/25/2007 11:49:00 AMNone, but it is not a problem if it is or isn't pre-installed
1736.10/25/2007 12:22:00 PMIn-house developed standardized desktop for deployment.
1737.10/25/2007 12:24:00 PMWe would probably re-install our own customised version.
1738.10/25/2007 12:25:00 PMIs not needed.
1739.10/25/2007 12:27:00 PMNeed to dual boot with Windows, and we have a working Linux environment that meets our needs.
1740.10/25/2007 12:29:00 PMWe currently use a heavily customised version of windows, locked down for secuirty and with many non-work related features disabled. We would need a similarly customised version of linux.
1741.10/25/2007 12:31:00 PMMost machines are individually personalized for the end user. Pre-installed systems would only increase cost to some point, while the end user will still have to do some configuration. Pre-installed's are simply not necessary.
1742.10/25/2007 12:32:00 PMCurrent stance is that most of the end user desktops will be Microsoft.
1743.10/25/2007 12:35:00 PMthe price is not much different to preinstalled Windows boxes.
1744.10/25/2007 12:38:00 PMThere is no reason for us to choose a pre-installed product, we can do the install ourselves. The existence of pre-installed products is good for the mass market, but does not affect us.
1745.10/25/2007 12:41:00 PMOS X applications that wouldn't run, such as Filemaker Pro, InDesign and Photoshop.
1746.10/25/2007 12:45:00 PMWe have in house expertise that we'd prefer to employ to install, configure and deploy Linux.
1747.10/25/2007 12:47:00 PMWe use a very modified CentOS for desktop development. Clearcase support.
1748.10/25/2007 12:52:00 PMW have verys specific needs and the in-house technical know-how to create our own customized installations
1749.10/25/2007 12:54:00 PMPre-installed products are tailored for the generic customer. Preparing and configuring these products for a production environment is still a big task.
1750.10/25/2007 12:55:00 PMCosts
1751.10/25/2007 12:57:00 PMNothing to do with being pre-installed. All to do with available applications on Linux.
1752.10/25/2007 12:57:00 PMWe prefer to install all operating systems ourselves
1753.10/25/2007 12:59:00 PMWe build our own the way we want them.
1754.10/25/2007 1:00:00 PMWe install everything in-house, regardless of what the OS will be.
1755.10/25/2007 1:00:00 PMwe have to much custom/non-standard configurations
1756.10/25/2007 1:03:00 PMHardware cost/configuration. We have the expertise in-house to buy bare-iron systems and install Linux ourselves.
1757.10/25/2007 1:03:00 PMavailibility
1758.10/25/2007 1:06:00 PMCorporate mindset
1759.10/25/2007 1:07:00 PMnot enough choice, cost too high compared to other options.
1760.10/25/2007 1:08:00 PMWe have nothing against pre-installed, but prefer to install and configure system according to what we actually need.
1761.10/25/2007 1:09:00 PMStill MS Interoperability, otherwise fine.
1762.10/25/2007 1:09:00 PMI prefer installing myself. It allows me to make the decisions about what is need on any particular machine.
1763.10/25/2007 1:10:00 PMCrufty installations, way too rich and insufficiently hardened.
1764.10/25/2007 1:10:00 PMI prefer to configure/install the system myself.
1765.10/25/2007 1:13:00 PMInstallation is easy.
1766.10/25/2007 1:14:00 PMSoftware Vendor Certification
1767.10/25/2007 1:15:00 PMI would personally not have a problem choosing a pre-installed product, though my school would. We have an internal linux distribution that we use on all student workstations.
1768.10/25/2007 1:15:00 PMI dont need them.
1769.10/25/2007 1:16:00 PMAre suited for common deployments, but not for customized applications
1770.10/25/2007 1:20:00 PMzh_TW language support
1771.10/25/2007 1:21:00 PMCompatibility with our existing systems
1772.10/25/2007 1:23:00 PMMore control over what specifically is installed on the Desktops is greatly preferred.
1773.10/25/2007 1:25:00 PMNone
1774.10/25/2007 1:30:00 PMWe are capable of deploying our own linux desktops on standard of the shelf hardware. i.e. non proprietary.
1775.10/25/2007 1:30:00 PMNone, I always just install Mandriva on everything and never have had an issue with it. It just works!
1776.10/25/2007 1:33:00 PMno applicability within the organization
1777.10/25/2007 1:34:00 PMPrefer customized installations
1778.10/25/2007 1:36:00 PMIt is easier to install to our specifications than to modify someone else's configuration. What is important is to get accurate specifications of the hardware on offer so as to avoid Broadcom etc.
1779.10/25/2007 1:37:00 PMDell is expensive, and installing Ubuntu is simple.
1780.10/25/2007 1:38:00 PMwould prefer to test new distros
1781.10/25/2007 1:38:00 PMWe Build and install our own computers
1782.10/25/2007 1:39:00 PMThis is a defense environment. We develop or repackage almost everything unless the package or software is explicitly already approved.
1783.10/25/2007 1:42:00 PMWe build our own packaging/deployment solutions.
1784.10/25/2007 1:45:00 PMBy the time we customise the configuration, it is probably just as easy to install the images ourself.
1785.10/25/2007 1:47:00 PMPrefer to source and build OS separately, rather than buy pre-installed
1786.10/25/2007 1:47:00 PMwe do it ourselves.
1787.10/25/2007 1:49:00 PMWrong distribution, wrong customizations, non-standard add-ons.
1788.10/25/2007 1:50:00 PMThe higher ups are Microsoft Shills
1789.10/25/2007 1:50:00 PMPrefer building own system or Macs
1790.10/25/2007 1:51:00 PMAnal-Retentive Tech Staff.
1791.10/25/2007 1:51:00 PMNo real issues. Linux boxes are usually re-purposed Windows machines. Engineers are the most frequent Linux users, and make their own personal distro choices for desktops (though not for standardized build machines).
1792.10/25/2007 1:52:00 PMWe are missing the linux distributions of our choice.
1793.10/25/2007 1:53:00 PMLinux has been trivial to install for at least the 8 to 10 years. So don't need them and also typically must reinstall for the specific options required such as disk layout and packages installed.
1794.10/25/2007 1:54:00 PMWhat linux distribution is installed on them.
1795.10/25/2007 1:55:00 PMWe image and install our own Desktops
1796.10/25/2007 1:59:00 PMnot supported by application vendor
1797.10/25/2007 2:01:00 PMCompatibility with integrated MS Windows environment.
1798.10/25/2007 2:03:00 PMThe question with responses was not very good. Most of our developers will install the system themselves. Pre-installed system may work well fro some of our other users. Most of the time those that need linux can do the installation themselves.
1799.10/25/2007 2:04:00 PMOur distro of choice is not available pre installed in our area.
1800.10/25/2007 2:06:00 PMVerticle Market Windows based applications
1801.10/25/2007 2:10:00 PMCustom setup for firewall and other bespoke packages required within the organization
1802.10/25/2007 2:11:00 PMCost Control
1803.10/25/2007 2:11:00 PMLack of choice. We would like to see a more KDE based distribution pre-installed. Most offerings are Gnome-only at this moment..
1804.10/25/2007 2:11:00 PMcannot really think of any
1805.10/25/2007 2:11:00 PMNot tailored
1806.10/25/2007 2:13:00 PMsee obstacles above...
1807.10/25/2007 2:14:00 PMWe build Terminal Servers so that desktops act as unconfigured thin clients.
1808.10/25/2007 2:16:00 PMWrong distribution/ability to install things on our own.
1809.10/25/2007 2:16:00 PMWe like to use PCLinuxOS
1810.10/25/2007 2:16:00 PMInconsistent peripheral compatibility.
1811.10/25/2007 2:19:00 PMWord Processing and Database and GIS
1812.10/25/2007 2:19:00 PMI do not need a pre-installed solution
1813.10/25/2007 2:24:00 PMWe have already procedures in place to install linux ourselves.
1814.10/25/2007 2:24:00 PMApplications
1815.10/25/2007 2:25:00 PMHardware cost
1816.10/25/2007 2:26:00 PMHard to find package that are easy to install without doing a lot of depedencies researches
1817.10/25/2007 2:27:00 PMNone
1818.10/25/2007 2:29:00 PM1. availability
1819.10/25/2007 2:29:00 PMWe might select a pre-installed product but only because it would guarantee hardware compatibility with Linux. After that, we would wipe the system and install to our own specifications. It works better for us (having customized systems) and it isn't hard to do.
1820.10/25/2007 2:32:00 PMWe prefer to build all by hand
1821.10/25/2007 2:34:00 PMWe're able to install ourselves - in fact, that's part of our business.
1822.10/25/2007 2:37:00 PMCustom installation is easy and provides the greatest control over our software environment.
1823.10/25/2007 2:39:00 PMHardware options that manufacturers use for pre-installed Linux distros. Provide us with a &quot;usable&quot; piece of hardware and we'd consider it.
1824.10/25/2007 2:40:00 PMWe don't buy new computers with Operating systems. OS is licensed seperately.
1825.10/25/2007 2:40:00 PMNone, we cut costs by building our own machines, so we usually don't buy pre-built computers with an OS already installed.
1826.10/25/2007 2:40:00 PMnarrow choice if products from major suppliers, poor hardware range support
1827.10/25/2007 2:41:00 PMprefer to roll my own
1828.10/25/2007 2:41:00 PMwe install our own machines
1829.10/25/2007 2:42:00 PMdoes not supply the distribution of choice.
1830.10/25/2007 2:42:00 PMNo obstacles, we just use our own product.
1831.10/25/2007 2:44:00 PMwe configure each client from hand, so we dont have any advantage from pre-installed products
1832.10/25/2007 2:45:00 PM- Documentation - Support - Training
1833.10/25/2007 2:46:00 PMI dont have any issues with pre-installed products for most end users, personally I prefer a distro like Gentoo or a BSD flavor which offers much more customization to suit my needs
1834.10/25/2007 2:46:00 PMdo not meet internal requirements
1835.10/25/2007 2:49:00 PMLack of cash for replacing existing systems
1836.10/25/2007 2:49:00 PMNone, just not necessary.
1837.10/25/2007 2:50:00 PMN/A
1838.10/25/2007 2:50:00 PMLack of integration with third-party tools (e.g. hard disk encryption)
1839.10/25/2007 2:56:00 PMAvailability of adequate mission-critical applications
1840.10/25/2007 2:57:00 PMWe have a high degree of customization performed on each client. The RHEL kickstart infrastructure is in place to build desktops meeting our internal standardization. Since we wipe the system in any case all we require is the license.
1841.10/25/2007 2:59:00 PMNo issues. But our office is a Gold Microsoft Partner, and we are heavily invested in the Microsoft world.
1842.10/25/2007 3:02:00 PMApplication support Drivers
1843.10/25/2007 3:03:00 PMNormally, we install Slackware and use it as a thin-client. Ubuntu is just too heavy for that purpose.
1844.10/25/2007 3:04:00 PMRight now we do not need more hardware. In the future, when we do need new computers, we would *consider* purchasing pre-installed desktops.
1845.10/25/2007 3:05:00 PMna
1846.10/25/2007 3:06:00 PMWe build all of our own machines and do our own installs and custimization. No need for preinstalled images. However machines that are certified to work with Linux, all devices supported, is very important. We have considered buying a Dell and loading Fedora on it, and would probably do this if we thought everything would work.
1847.10/25/2007 3:06:00 PMNo issues, We just don't need them
1848.10/25/2007 3:06:00 PMsize, complexity
1849.10/25/2007 3:11:00 PMThe same issues with windows installs, the lack of customization. We have been able to successfully perform our own conversions on legacy hardware.
1850.10/25/2007 3:16:00 PMThere are no issues - we are capable of using stock distros.
1851.10/25/2007 3:16:00 PMpackages installed do not meet company security standards.
1852.10/25/2007 3:17:00 PMSee previous comment. IT department lack of knowledge and fear.
1853.10/25/2007 3:18:00 PMNone, just not that big of a deal. We can rapidly deploy our own images.
1854.10/25/2007 3:19:00 PMwe usually are partnered with a specific hardware vendor, and it usually has to be a vendor supported OS, not sure what pre-installed linux you are referring to.
1855.10/25/2007 3:20:00 PMOur deployment process wouldn't
1856.10/25/2007 3:28:00 PMI prefer to custom configure Linux machines, pre-installed software selection / partitioning / etc. do not match my expectations. Customizing a pre-installed product usually takes more time, than starting out from a fresh install.
1857.10/25/2007 3:29:00 PMThe emergence of pre-installed products doesn't benefit us or hinder us. In every software development shop I've ever worked, each individual user always wipes their machine as soon as they receive it and install the tools they like from scratch.
1858.10/25/2007 3:31:00 PMEither it is Ubuntu = Worst QA ever, and very inadequate repos. or SLED = Too old and too enterprise. We need OpenSUSE or Fedora for the quality of the repos and relatively high technical level, I do wish there were more focus on the QA for these two distros.
1859.10/25/2007 3:32:00 PMOffering one concrete distribution, which we are not interested in. Novell no - collaboration with Microsoft. RedHAT OK - but we do not require expensive support Ubuntu OK - meybe, but now we prefere rock stable Debian
1860.10/25/2007 3:32:00 PMwe have our own kickstart stuff in case of fedora
1861.10/25/2007 3:33:00 PMwireless support is still flaky
1862.10/25/2007 3:35:00 PMNo major issues, we already use linux in the enterprise and have no *need* for a pre-installed distribution.
1863.10/25/2007 3:35:00 PMcost of name brand hardware
1864.10/25/2007 3:42:00 PMNew user friendly linux is a must. i.e. Mandriva! Ubuntu is not very good and not new user friendly, it also run gnome. KDE is a must! Fedora is a good chioce as some of our users have expirience with this product. Most of all there is not a significant enough cost saving to warrent buy a preinstalled system with a distrobution that won't meet our needs.
1865.10/25/2007 3:43:00 PMWill still need to be customized for the needs of the company. Any Linux machine would be based on a company standard which is not necessarily catered for by vendors.
1866.10/25/2007 3:43:00 PMWe create custom images and install them ourselves (currently only for Windows).
1867.10/25/2007 3:52:00 PMDIY is just as good in our case
1868.10/25/2007 3:52:00 PMI build my own &quot;white box&quot; systems.
1869.10/25/2007 3:55:00 PM- We can do our own installs if drivers were integrated into kernel and didn't require patching by vendors
1870.10/25/2007 3:56:00 PMCorporately, we are locked into to to many Microsoft applications that we must have.
1871.10/25/2007 3:56:00 PMlimited offer
1872.10/25/2007 3:56:00 PMNothing, it is just not a concern of my organization.
1873.10/25/2007 3:58:00 PMWe would re-install to our own specs in any case, so there's really no point
1874.10/25/2007 3:59:00 PMno standard support for linux desktop from desktop manufacurer
1875.10/25/2007 4:03:00 PMIT tends to already buy servers with Linux installed, and desktops with Windows installed which are then re-imaged into dual-boot configurations.
1876.10/25/2007 4:08:00 PMSo far no Linux product will run our business critical app.
1877.10/25/2007 4:08:00 PMConvincing the boss.
1878.10/25/2007 4:08:00 PMWe always install the system ourselves
1879.10/25/2007 4:12:00 PMWe prefer to install by ourselves.
1880.10/25/2007 4:12:00 PMThey do not give me the choice I want
1881.10/25/2007 4:16:00 PMIn-house customizations.
1882.10/25/2007 4:18:00 PMlimited number. non-business orientated
1883.10/25/2007 4:21:00 PMCost
1884.10/25/2007 4:21:00 PMOur organization requires complete control over environment. Rolling our own has always been done.
1885.10/25/2007 4:22:00 PMI'm sure we would develop a drive image in house and use that, rather than whatever was preloaded at the factory.
1886.10/25/2007 4:23:00 PMThe training needs of our internal desktop support technicians are significant enough that ANY linux is fundamentally unsupportable. OEM or not.
1887.10/25/2007 4:26:00 PMWe save money by building our own systems and installing the OS ourselves.
1888.10/25/2007 4:30:00 PMOur needs are met with a custom version of Linux, therefore we buy computers with blank disks and install ourselves.
1889.10/25/2007 4:31:00 PMNot offered on front page machines.
1890.10/25/2007 4:31:00 PMHardware selection is limited. It is easier to build systems within the company to meet hardware requirements.
1891.10/25/2007 4:33:00 PMthey don't come with the specialized softwares we use and those softwares don't all exist on Linux
1892.10/25/2007 4:40:00 PMNeed specialist custom-designed hardware
1893.10/25/2007 4:43:00 PMWe would install from specialized images anyway
1894.10/25/2007 4:45:00 PMChoice of Linux Distribution - we prefer Debian which seems to be an unusual choice for pre-installed desktops.
1895.10/25/2007 4:50:00 PMNot integrated with Lotus Notes and Active Directory
1896.10/25/2007 4:53:00 PMProduct applications are not specific to our industry.
1897.10/25/2007 4:54:00 PMWe use a customized version of Linux and this is not pre-installed on anyone's machines.
1898.10/25/2007 4:55:00 PMCustomizations
1899.10/25/2007 4:56:00 PMLack of vendor choice in pre-installed products (Procurement requirements).
1900.10/25/2007 5:07:00 PMDifferent job specs require very different OS environments.
1901.10/25/2007 5:08:00 PMIt may be a matter of money.
1902.10/25/2007 5:08:00 PMOur IT organization prefers installing a custom OS image regardless of the OS to be used.
1903.10/25/2007 5:13:00 PMWhy bother? Linux installation is easy.
1904.10/25/2007 5:15:00 PMNo particular issues; we simply do not need them.
1905.10/25/2007 5:21:00 PMWrong linux distribution (Ubuntu).
1906.10/25/2007 5:22:00 PMWe build our own computers and find that installing Linux is not any more difficult than installing Windows.
1907.10/25/2007 5:25:00 PMapps
1908.10/25/2007 5:28:00 PMWe need Redhat Enterprise Linux, not Ubuntu, not Suse. REL is the only option. Dell offers that on some servers, but it rarely works requiring us to install and troubleshoot our own install of REL.
1909.10/25/2007 5:29:00 PMWe choose the hardware and software seperatly and integrate them internally.
1910.10/25/2007 5:38:00 PMAutodesk AutoCAD
1911.10/25/2007 5:40:00 PMThey run Linux.
1912.10/25/2007 5:40:00 PMThey aren't interested in Lnux based systems
1913.10/25/2007 5:41:00 PMDistrust of pre-installed OSs
1914.10/25/2007 5:45:00 PMcrapware that reduces the speed and performance of a linux desktop out of the box.
1915.10/25/2007 5:47:00 PMI have no issue with pre-installed Linux, we instead buy Macs because they are built upon UNIX so we don't need Linux on desktops. Until KDE or GNOME can match Mac OS, why bother?
1916.10/25/2007 5:50:00 PMfvreedom to choose the right/correct applications
1917.10/25/2007 5:53:00 PMWe would install the operating system ourselves anyway.
1918.10/25/2007 5:56:00 PMToo much rubbish installed by default, just like Windows. We find it better to use a custom (read: minimal) install to select the main desired packages and use yast/aptitude to install other wishes. Commercial packages are installed and maintained on a central server.
1919.10/25/2007 5:56:00 PMAccess to specific applications like SolidWorks.
1920.10/25/2007 5:58:00 PMnone
1921.10/25/2007 6:04:00 PMThe greatness of Linux and BSD is that it is customizable so a preinstalled version isn't very helpful because I want to tweak the OS and then deploy.
1922.10/25/2007 6:05:00 PMHome user. I build my own systems as required and use Kubuntu as operating system.
1923.10/25/2007 6:06:00 PMNothing really. No issues, just not necessary if the vendor has driver support for existing OS that we may install. Providing OS-free machines might make better sense as we already have VLA/MLA for the desktop OS. Why buy it twice??
1924.10/25/2007 6:08:00 PMNo issues, I just prefer to install my own OS to give me complete control of the systems I deploy.
1925.10/25/2007 6:08:00 PMWe run highly customized debian stable.
1926.10/25/2007 6:15:00 PMI install and reinstall my own OSs. No need for preinstallation.
1927.10/25/2007 6:16:00 PMwhether or not the OS comes pre-installed is most irrelevant for our agency. largely what we're worried about is the availability of a functionally complete replacement for Exchange and Office. OpenOffice just isn't cutting the mustard
1928.10/25/2007 6:20:00 PMCan do it ourselfs. Clean non-installed products would be nice.
1929.10/25/2007 6:21:00 PMhardware selection, distribution selection
1930.10/25/2007 6:22:00 PMWe customize linux to fit our needs and pre-installed products don't run after our customization
1931.10/25/2007 6:24:00 PMWe use custom images.
1932.10/25/2007 6:29:00 PMWe generally heavily customize our linux installs, so pre-packaged products will not do as-is.
1933.10/25/2007 6:33:00 PMNo problems. We don't need pre-installed Linux. We just install it ourselves.
1934.10/25/2007 6:33:00 PMwe have our own distribution and installation tools
1935.10/25/2007 6:41:00 PMLinux OS type/easier to do it ourselves
1936.10/25/2007 6:43:00 PMwrong OS, hardware selection
1937.10/25/2007 6:50:00 PMYou want to install a desktop that delivers what's needed on the desktop, no more, no less. Pre-installed products are one size fits all so you don't know if it's deployable as is.
1938.10/25/2007 6:51:00 PMThere are so many options with Linux, and netboot installs are so easy that there is no need for preinstalled Linux for us. more os-free desktops from mainstream manufacturers (dell) would be nice though
1939.10/25/2007 6:54:00 PMThe wording of the question assumes that I have been waiting for them. I have not! If I need a new unit then I may buy one or build one myself.
1940.10/25/2007 6:54:00 PMThey are too generic (ie - multiple text editors)and dont include well thought out integration and interoperability.....
1941.10/25/2007 6:56:00 PMvendor dependent tools and apps
1942.10/25/2007 6:57:00 PM-not enough information about them -limited choice
1943.10/25/2007 6:59:00 PMPrefer to use PCLOS instead; it works better.
1944.10/25/2007 7:05:00 PMWrong distribution.
1945.10/25/2007 7:08:00 PMPreinstalled OS's usually include several applications that are unneeded. We would end up reinstalling anyway.
1946.10/25/2007 7:08:00 PMWe end up re-partitioning hard drives and re-installing the OS.
1947.10/25/2007 7:14:00 PMThey are not required.
1948.10/25/2007 7:17:00 PMNo fun
1949.10/25/2007 7:18:00 PMwe need to customize all installations heavily anyway, so we can just as well install the systems ourselves.
1950.10/25/2007 7:23:00 PMIt wouldn't support what we need in a training environment. A tailor-made remaster from Debian/Mepis is what we use on our desktops and on the LTSP terminal server.
1951.10/25/2007 7:24:00 PMLinux is not available on all models of the desktop/laptop/servers
1952.10/25/2007 7:28:00 PMour management is so pro-windows it is difficult to believe
1953.10/25/2007 7:32:00 PMIt's not the pre-installation that is the problem, but the lack of peripheral support (i.e. drivers) for other devices.
1954.10/25/2007 7:37:00 PMThey don't support Debian.
1955.10/25/2007 7:37:00 PMWe would have to reconfigure things anyway, so it is easier to just install linux ourselves.
1956.10/25/2007 7:39:00 PMMostly happy with Mandriva. See no real need to change at this time.
1957.10/25/2007 7:39:00 PMConsiderable customization is required Preferred distros not pre-installed
1958.10/25/2007 7:40:00 PMto little acceptance from management
1959.10/25/2007 7:42:00 PMPDA Sync, email
1960.10/25/2007 7:46:00 PMIncomplete hardware support
1961.10/25/2007 7:47:00 PMNone
1962.10/25/2007 7:47:00 PMThere are no issues with pre-installed products that would prevent us from choosing one. It is simply too easy to install exactly what we want ourselves to want to bother with a pre-installed product.
1963.10/25/2007 7:54:00 PMQuality of hardware. Self-source components have better quality
1964.10/25/2007 8:09:00 PMWe have a custom RHEL kickstart script that sets up our desktops to do things like authenticate against our LDAP server and mount filesystems over NFS. Unless a vendor is willing to pre-install using our script, there's little point in purchasing RHEL pre-installed, as a kickstart installation over our network takes at most 20 minutes.
1965.10/25/2007 8:18:00 PMWe need an adopted configuration.
1966.10/25/2007 8:25:00 PMWe patch kernel with our own patch-set for device drivers not available otherwise.. Also we prefer building Linux from source (reason above) and for faster performance, smaller size. why to have bulky kernel and OS (with generic device driver support for devices which we don't even have)
1967.10/25/2007 8:29:00 PMWrong distro, wrong setup, wrong configuration, no value actually added.
1968.10/25/2007 8:30:00 PMTraining issues/learning curves for non-technical staff
1969.10/25/2007 8:38:00 PMLinux is free. We prefer to pick packages by ourselves.
1970.10/25/2007 8:41:00 PMLimited selection of products, products not always high end.
1971.10/25/2007 8:42:00 PMSame as with preinstalled windows, its full of manufacturer specific crap and &quot;free trials&quot; of eveything one absolutely does not need. And again, these distroes are built by geeks who has no understanding of what an end user like or need, they want to force geeky stuff on low end users. (Gnome being the biggest turn-off factor)
1972.10/25/2007 9:02:00 PMWe have Windows specific applications.
1973.10/25/2007 9:10:00 PMWe need SUSE linux preinstalled on hi-spec machines, not entry level crap.
1974.10/25/2007 9:21:00 PMn/a
1975.10/25/2007 9:22:00 PMThey contain too many things that I don't want my users to have. I prefer to build and distribute my own image.
1976.10/25/2007 9:26:00 PMNo issue.........just don't use them.
1977.10/25/2007 9:28:00 PMNone. The problem is not with offering.
1978.10/25/2007 9:38:00 PMWe have a contract with Microsoft applying to all of our PCs. Those of us that prefer Linux add it after our PCs are purchased.
1979.10/25/2007 9:42:00 PMWe would if we were moving to linux.
1980.10/25/2007 9:47:00 PMI am not at a position making decision. But I would like to buy a pre-installed computer
1981.10/25/2007 9:48:00 PMwe do out own installation and setting up Linux Boxes we do our own support
1982.10/25/2007 9:52:00 PMSo far I haven't seen one that covers my needs. The OPen Office suite is not yet on par with the Windows based offereings.
1983.10/25/2007 9:53:00 PMThe company is not considering Linux at all, much less whether pre-installed products are available.
1984.10/25/2007 9:54:00 PMI'm happy to do it myself, and no-one preinstalls my preferred linux (MEPIS)
1985.10/25/2007 10:09:00 PMcost and flexibility.
1986.10/25/2007 10:21:00 PMusually rebuild our system image to include particular settings or applications
1987.10/25/2007 10:29:00 PMvendors usually don't pre-install debian
1988.10/25/2007 10:32:00 PMThe primary obstacle preventing deployment is lack of application support for a number of mission critical applications.
1989.10/25/2007 10:35:00 PMManagement myopia of corporate management
1990.10/25/2007 10:53:00 PMhard drive configuration and extraneous software installed
1991.10/25/2007 11:04:00 PMthe problem's not with preinstalled products, the problem is with the way the question is phrased. we're fine with the desktops we've got, that we installed ourselves. we don't need pre-installed boxen, and we're not likely to change our supplier. it has nothing to do with the product, and everything to do with the way we operate. you should probably revisit the question, and consider rephrasing it.
1992.10/25/2007 11:17:00 PMNot customized to our needs. We prefer to install the Operating System ourselves.
1993.10/25/2007 11:27:00 PMFor personal use, these are fine. But we're commercial game developers. We require high-end and specialized components, and the ability to swap out graphics cards and other components without voiding our warantee or support. Our machines are custom-built by ourselves, with swappable hard drives (so we can boot up any Linux distribution or Windows version), multiple cd/dvd burners, and lots of usb ports.
1994.10/25/2007 11:32:00 PMApplication Support
1995.10/25/2007 11:33:00 PMWe don't use pre-installed products, all users are responsible for their computer(s).
1996.10/25/2007 11:43:00 PM???
1997.10/25/2007 11:56:00 PMWe make our own SOE
1998.10/25/2007 11:59:00 PMI like control, so anything pre-installed would be replaced.
1999.10/26/2007 12:09:00 AMI like to choose the Linux distribution, how the disk is partitioned etc.
2000.10/26/2007 12:17:00 AMChoice! The Linux desktop is ready and has been for some time. A wide variety of software titles for the Linux desktop is NOT ready.
2001.10/26/2007 12:20:00 AMCost. I build and install myself to ensure quality and keep costs lower.
2002.10/26/2007 12:24:00 AMWe roll our own solution. No pre-install needed.
2003.10/26/2007 12:43:00 AMWe buy bare PC's with no OS, then we can do what we want. A pre-installed Linux PC has been installed by someone else who may have ticked inappropriate boxes or not ticked the correct ones. We'll do it ourselves thanks. I am seriously considering buying my next laptop from dell with ubuntu on it.
2004.10/26/2007 12:51:00 AMThe vendors that we have an existing relationship with do not offer pre-installed Linux. Additionally, while I recommend pre-installed Linux to friends and family, we have an IT support staff that can just as easily install Linux as they can ghost a Windows image.
2005.10/26/2007 1:00:00 AMThe range off PCs available
2006.10/26/2007 1:39:00 AMn/a
2007.10/26/2007 1:47:00 AMAFAIK, no one pre-installs Debian.
2008.10/26/2007 1:49:00 AMat this time mainly costs.
2009.10/26/2007 2:11:00 AMavailability in north america
2010.10/26/2007 2:15:00 AMProduct Support
2011.10/26/2007 2:24:00 AMOnly available on a small number of models.
2012.10/26/2007 2:39:00 AMCHOICE
2013.10/26/2007 2:40:00 AMWe simply use our own configuration based on the main distro's
2014.10/26/2007 2:48:00 AMNot needed
2015.10/26/2007 2:54:00 AMThey are to generic and lack optimization. Most applications have a much longer load time.
2016.10/26/2007 3:02:00 AMCost is twice as much as Windows counterparts.
2017.10/26/2007 3:12:00 AMPre-installation is only one domino in a long series of issues indusrty has with deploying Linux. The main issue is we'd have is that we never have the vendor pre-install our software. We use an image that's loaded with legal industry apps that goes through rigorous testing.
2018.10/26/2007 3:39:00 AMWe had our own Red Hat Enterprise image with our business applications installed.
2019.10/26/2007 4:10:00 AMOne of the main reasons for using Linux is that we can customise the distribution to meet our needs. We're also primarily using thin client, running against desktop environments on virtual machines on top of a server platform.
2020.10/26/2007 4:14:00 AMReinstall custom configuration anyway for security reasons and to lock down features exposed to end users.
2021.10/26/2007 4:23:00 AMxxx
2022.10/26/2007 4:42:00 AMCost and availability.
2023.10/26/2007 5:08:00 AMNo issues with pre-installed products, just not in the market for them.
2024.10/26/2007 5:14:00 AMLack of drivers and compatibility with hardware
2025.10/26/2007 5:29:00 AMWe don't need no steenkin pre-install
2026.10/26/2007 5:40:00 AMIn South Africa, they are scarce, besides which the primary required applications are not available for Linux.
2027.10/26/2007 5:47:00 AMgreat, as long as it's GPL'ed
2028.10/26/2007 5:56:00 AMWe need customised OS, with limited applications and some proprietory apps. No. of desktops used is huge, hence need to install the preset environment through directly
2029.10/26/2007 6:12:00 AMAs long as they just work....none.
2030.10/26/2007 6:18:00 AMNone, but there has been no need for one.
2031.10/26/2007 7:09:00 AMour company has the technical abilities to do the installations
2032.10/26/2007 7:10:00 AMWindows (or rather bloody internet explorer) specific web based central university applications is the major obstacle. And university IT support policy and training. They don't support Mac either.
2033.10/26/2007 7:14:00 AMThey are typically installed in a fashion which covers too many needs. We would re-do it with the specific needs of the client in mind.
2034.10/26/2007 7:24:00 AMLack of local (non-us) supply of pre-installed products, have skills in house that enable local deployment on compatible hardware with no significant issues.
2035.10/26/2007 7:28:00 AMThey're not branded specifically for our company.
2036.10/26/2007 7:31:00 AMChoosing right packages need for a development environment
2037.10/26/2007 7:33:00 AMNo problems with them--we might buy PCs with Linux pre-installed, but it's not a big deal for us to install it. Regardless, the vast majority of our desktops are LTSP thin clients running on old, cheap donated hardware!
2038.10/26/2007 7:39:00 AMLack of flexibility
2039.10/26/2007 7:39:00 AMWe don't need any
2040.10/26/2007 7:55:00 AMusing Novell Netware as operating system for servers
2041.10/26/2007 8:03:00 AMWe do our own custom Windows and Linux installs including applications/drivers specific to our organisation
2042.10/26/2007 8:11:00 AMA pre-installed product wouldn't meet all our requirements and would need to be heavily customized, so we could just as well create our own solution.
2043.10/26/2007 8:15:00 AM'Wrong' distribution
2044.10/26/2007 8:37:00 AMThe linux updates at 6 monthly intervals is too fast - better to take longer and have a better product. Just check all the problems with a new install - would rather have a rolling update than a new install every 6 months. Generally updates fail or take weeks to get working.
2045.10/26/2007 8:39:00 AMWe need integration with specific internal applications, and so have already developed and internal use only &quot;distribution&quot; and an automated method for deployment. Adopting a pre-installed product now would require additional work.
2046.10/26/2007 8:40:00 AMWe make our own deployment of clients tailored to our needs.
2047.10/26/2007 8:56:00 AMSome applications and user base
2048.10/26/2007 9:08:00 AMThey dont come with VSS or other things important for our work
2049.10/26/2007 9:17:00 AMLike to taylor the distribution to meet business requirements.
2050.10/26/2007 9:19:00 AMInavailible in North Europe.
2051.10/26/2007 9:22:00 AMnot needed
2052.10/26/2007 9:41:00 AMvnbc jrikdjhvb
2053.10/26/2007 9:44:00 AMWe want to run application under Windows. We don't know which kind of machine with linux pre-installed support these applications.
2054.10/26/2007 9:44:00 AMwe never use pre-installed products whether linux, unix or windows. very specific requirements. We have our own deployment tools
2055.10/26/2007 9:45:00 AMdoesn't suite the needs.
2056.10/26/2007 9:54:00 AMThe majority of our applications are in-house and would need to be re-coded to enable them to be used in a Linux environment. Given that they operate with Server 2003, this is an area that would take an immense amount of work to re-create.
2057.10/26/2007 9:57:00 AMWe already have a desktop deployment / management system so there is no benefit to systems being shipped with an OS.
2058.10/26/2007 10:02:00 AMWe would like to have a full control in choosing the OS distrubution and installation process.
2059.10/26/2007 10:05:00 AMWe have no instllation problems
2060.10/26/2007 10:08:00 AMNone.
2061.10/26/2007 10:21:00 AMUser training
2062.10/26/2007 10:21:00 AMWould need extensive further customisation
2063.10/26/2007 10:29:00 AMOnly specific distributions are supported inside the organisation, not aware of these being offered pre-installed yet. But if they were, then we might well use them.
2064.10/26/2007 10:30:00 AMWe don't buy off the shelf hardware except for servers so we're not interested in the current desktops available. We have our own server distribution so we're not interested in off the shelf servers preinstalled either.
2065.10/26/2007 10:31:00 AMNot necessary
2066.10/26/2007 10:35:00 AMcuctom configurations required
2067.10/26/2007 10:38:00 AMStandardization within our organisation - pc's are kept to a strict standard structure to minimize usage of scarce IT resources. To a large extent it is an organizational issue - we can't afford the time to support anything else in addition to our current XP standard desktop.
2068.10/26/2007 10:39:00 AMNothing really, but we are happy with normal distros on the hardware we select.
2069.10/26/2007 11:00:00 AMI prefer to install Linux myself so it is configured exactly how I want it.
2070.10/26/2007 11:08:00 AMlanguage support
2071.10/26/2007 11:38:00 AMNot needed.
2072.10/26/2007 11:38:00 AMNot the distribution that my business uses currently. Also the hardware configurations available with Linux are often limited.
2073.10/26/2007 11:40:00 AMLack of business applications.
2074.10/26/2007 12:17:00 PMWe have developed our own standardized software platform for all operating systems including Linux.
2075.10/26/2007 12:27:00 PMSame as for the non pre-installed: Company uses ms office and there are no quallified linux vendors and consultants in area
2076.10/26/2007 12:44:00 PMAbility to run internal security and software distribution tools
2077.10/26/2007 1:00:00 PMI never use any preinstalled OS. I want to know what choices are made during install and why.
2078.10/26/2007 1:06:00 PMwe assemble our workstations. no brand-name desktop machines here (except Macs for graphic artists)
2079.10/26/2007 1:19:00 PMBugs
2080.10/26/2007 1:24:00 PMLack of proper integration. While a product may receive commercial support from a vendor, it uses technologies that make it different to administer than other packages. Examples include &quot;self-updating&quot; applications and graphical installers. Please provide applications in a format that can be consumed by the native package management system, or at least in RPMs that can be programmaticly converted.
2081.10/26/2007 1:30:00 PM* Lack of groupware support * end-user familiarity * IT staff familiarity
2082.10/26/2007 1:34:00 PMDon't have business apps that our company uses out of the box; the company provides a layer on top of RedHat for Linux users.
2083.10/26/2007 1:36:00 PMRather limited range of devices as compared to devices offered with Windows.
2084.10/26/2007 1:45:00 PMNone. Regardless of the OS, Linux replaces it where needed.
2085.10/26/2007 2:00:00 PMCosts for centralized desktop management
2086.10/26/2007 2:07:00 PMOne reason is that most vendors seem to support only one distro which isn't generally the one we would choose. The main reason would probable be that we customize and deploy images for our windows boxes and would most likely do the same with Linux. Pre-installed OS's are useless. I want *my* OS installed *my* way.
2087.10/26/2007 2:08:00 PMIn addition to customizing the distribution to meet our business needs (package selection, mostly), we develop our own in house software for our POS systems.
2088.10/26/2007 2:11:00 PMnot being able to get the one I wanted
2089.10/26/2007 2:12:00 PMThere are no problems with them - but it wouldn't have been true to pick the other option, that we have been waiting for them!
2090.10/26/2007 2:17:00 PMUsers like/expect Windows
2091.10/26/2007 2:53:00 PMwrong app set - we use too many internal apps
2092.10/26/2007 3:02:00 PMIt's easier to configure our distros from scratch than to re-do their installs.
2093.10/26/2007 3:03:00 PMConfiguration. As most workstations are of identical hardware, it is easier to do one install and copy that to all workstations. We also use booting from network (no install).
2094.10/26/2007 3:10:00 PM1) Non known to support Kubuntu on laptops 2) Desktop &amp; server we use FAI for deployment
2095.10/26/2007 3:15:00 PMThe Distro
2096.10/26/2007 3:27:00 PMi don't know
2097.10/26/2007 3:58:00 PMMost vendors only provide SuSE linux (our primary distro) on servers. This means we have to install desktops ourselves. More choice for desktops would be desireable.
2098.10/26/2007 4:01:00 PMUninstalling unneeded software. Wrong distribution.
2099.10/26/2007 4:01:00 PMwe are happy to install ourselves
2100.10/26/2007 4:16:00 PMNone.
2101.10/26/2007 4:36:00 PMcorporate culture
2102.10/26/2007 4:48:00 PMWe have no concern with the products themselves; this is a problem with software that has not been ported to Linux.
2103.10/26/2007 5:00:00 PMNo, issue. Just don't need pre-installed.
2104.10/26/2007 5:02:00 PMdoes not meet all our needs
2105.10/26/2007 5:03:00 PMvenders proprietary drivers
2106.10/26/2007 5:07:00 PMNot applicable
2107.10/26/2007 5:09:00 PMThey need
2108.10/26/2007 5:22:00 PMOur organization has special needs currently better handled in-house.
2109.10/26/2007 5:30:00 PMthey are not fully customised to our needs
2110.10/26/2007 5:48:00 PMIT platform management and integration into our network
2111.10/26/2007 6:02:00 PM1. Need for a specific linux distro/version to run. 2. &quot;Bloated&quot; requirements: needing major and complete support environments like Gnome or KDE to install. Apps should be as lean and flexible in their requirements as possible. 3. 'Point designs&quot; that preclude updating the surrounding OS/desktop environmnet without breaking the app.
2112.10/26/2007 6:14:00 PMinitial installation setup. Sometimes video does not function, othertimes there are audio problems. And the open sourced codecs are not complete. Do not want to go offshore to get them as they are legal to use, because they are not legal to distribute.
2113.10/26/2007 6:56:00 PMThey don't have the required corporate software layer and configuration necessary to operate in the existing infrastructure. (We don't use pre-installed Windows either but install our custom images.)
2114.10/26/2007 6:56:00 PMUnnecessary
2115.10/26/2007 7:01:00 PMcompatability with older poripherals
2116.10/26/2007 7:05:00 PMInstitutional dogma. There's nothing wrong with these products; we just have a (foolish) hesitation to use them.
2117.10/26/2007 7:05:00 PMWe would rather use existing hardware for the first pass
2118.10/26/2007 7:17:00 PMwe mostly run the same distro all over the place. most pre-installed distros are not the same, and some of them come without a full hardware support.
2119.10/26/2007 7:34:00 PMNot necessary - there is a defined set of applications (plus configurations) that we install (automated) on new desktops.
2120.10/26/2007 7:38:00 PMNone
2121.10/26/2007 7:59:00 PMbest solution is to compose the hardware you need and to put in the distro you want. turnkey systems do always miss something.
2122.10/26/2007 8:04:00 PMMissing applications
2123.10/26/2007 8:09:00 PMThey usually come with the wrong distributions, and sometimes outdated ones
2124.10/26/2007 8:37:00 PMpre-installed isn't required, we are fully capable of installing what we need.
2125.10/26/2007 8:41:00 PMWe use a lot of special hardware and bundled software/drivers that unfortunatly only work in Windows. That can be CAN-bus-analysers, oscilloscopes, etc...
2126.10/26/2007 8:57:00 PMNone, personally, for me. I love Linux! And I use it both at home and at work. But there's no way that it'll ever be approved for use in my organization (a school district) unless it's perceived as &quot;just as easy&quot; to integrate with Microsoft infrastructures as MS Windows itself is. And currently, that's not the case. Also, our &quot;Technology @ Home&quot; program, which gives school employees discounts for hardware and software, only includes Dell/HP computers running MS WIndows. Not even Macs are included. For these reasons, the current Linux pre-installed products would prevent nearly everyone in my district (except me and maybe ten others) from choosing one. They're gonna pick Windows.
2127.10/26/2007 9:02:00 PMSetup/pre-configuration
2128.10/26/2007 9:16:00 PMWe just like to install stuff ourself. But there are no issues with the pre-installed systems.
2129.10/26/2007 10:05:00 PMWe want to use Debian Etch on the desktop, and don't know any major vendor who can provide PCs with that distribution pre-installed.
2130.10/26/2007 10:08:00 PMFlexibility?
2131.10/26/2007 10:37:00 PMnone
2132.10/26/2007 10:46:00 PMOur organization (university humanities department) is just not aware of Linux, nor is it technically savvy enough to really move beyond the technology from five years ago. It's inertia more than anything.
2133.10/27/2007 12:10:00 AMWe like to be in control of how our systems are deployed, so we prefer to roll our own. Also we prefer Debian and Slackware as our two main distributions and none of those are available pre-installed (and even if they were it's a lot easier to just create our own auto installable versions of the distros that match our needs than having to tweak whatever some vendor supplies).
2134.10/27/2007 12:10:00 AMNot tailored to my particular needs.
2135.10/27/2007 12:33:00 AMNone - just like the freedom to choose
2136.10/27/2007 12:50:00 AMNot as good as proprietary Windows-only products available.
2137.10/27/2007 2:41:00 AMLack of trust in quality, I like to research and prove for myself products and their value to me, next, I dislike living with decisions others make for me in the market place, only to be left naked anyway when it comes to support later on...Not all products play well together and most abandon their product lines as unsupported when companies change hands or inherit others problems...Too many many many times I could have done just as well on my own. No matter who it is, how reputable, or the product brand...they all lie somehow. Bundles suck, contracts lay flat, a company with a new ethic, not a new product might catch my eye.
2138.10/27/2007 3:06:00 AMNot part of corporate specs and contract standards.
2139.10/27/2007 3:56:00 AMWe install ourselves
2140.10/27/2007 4:46:00 AMprefer to customize with internal IT staff
2141.10/27/2007 6:09:00 AMWe use a large amount of proprietary software even on our Linux desktops, and require a custom image. It would not be cost effective to have a third-party install the images, as opposed to doing it ourselves.
2142.10/27/2007 7:03:00 AMwe like the ability to configure our systems the way we want them - most of them (the commercial desktops)are to constrictive.
2143.10/27/2007 8:26:00 AMWe use company adapted operating systems for windows and linux desktops
2144.10/27/2007 9:33:00 AMWe don't see a need for it and would rather like to see the availability of machines delivered without an operating system installed.
2145.10/27/2007 10:47:00 AMWe would still need to customise the system, just as we do with Windows.
2146.10/27/2007 11:18:00 AMNot enough choice in regards to hardware options in PCs with Linux pre-installed.
2147.10/27/2007 12:06:00 PMstandard enterprise management issues. I don't need what someone else decides is a 'good' desktop configuration, I need to provide a tool to staff to enable them to function. That requires management of assets from the configuration of the firewall to application availability on desktops. pre-installed is just something I have to 'get out of the way', just like Windows.
2148.10/27/2007 12:34:00 PMwould be easier to persuade the business to adopt open source technologies
2149.10/27/2007 1:07:00 PMI find it hard to find their linux offerings. They seem to go out of their way to hide them - compare pioneer.net.au who make Linux a standard choice on their systems.
2150.10/27/2007 1:23:00 PMJust don't need them.
2151.10/27/2007 3:17:00 PMno issues
2152.10/27/2007 3:23:00 PMCompatiblity with Windows based systems
2153.10/27/2007 3:46:00 PMLimitation
2154.10/27/2007 3:53:00 PMTo many special Applications on Windows...:-(
2155.10/27/2007 7:15:00 PMExcel Macros, Software only for MS Windows, the opinion of the colleagues: MS Windows works good
2156.10/27/2007 8:59:00 PMPre-installed products seem to be geared at 2 large audiences: 1. Linux enthusiast/hobbyist -- &quot;I'll do what I need&quot; 2. Business User What about a web-apps development environment?
2157.10/27/2007 10:09:00 PMUser familiarity
2158.10/27/2007 10:18:00 PMJust more simple to handle if you do it by yourself. Using Debian's FAI is just faster than re-installing pre-installed images in any way.
2159.10/27/2007 10:44:00 PMI need to set up the computers myself
2160.10/27/2007 10:52:00 PMcompliance with company standards
2161.10/27/2007 11:43:00 PMnone
2162.10/27/2007 11:53:00 PMnot always available in desired configuration/with desired distro
2163.10/28/2007 12:20:00 AMMy company just does not believe that linux is ready for prime time. There are too many device support issues, and too many of our 3rd party apps don't run well or at all on it, without a costly virtualization strategy. Plus, there really is no good, affordable, way to do desktop management. I use linux both for work and personally, but I am &quot;a linux freak&quot; who is tolerated.
2164.10/28/2007 1:38:00 AMUser acceptance.
2165.10/28/2007 3:10:00 AMNobody in their right mind uses a pre-installed OS. Certainly not when installation can be automatic. Focus on making Linux simpler for orgnanizations to auto-install according to their business requirements.
2166.10/28/2007 4:36:00 AMn/a
2167.10/28/2007 5:33:00 AMWe build all our own machines. We have considered Pre-installed, but most are not the high end machines so far.
2168.10/28/2007 7:17:00 AMn/a
2169.10/28/2007 10:15:00 AMCost.
2170.10/28/2007 10:33:00 AMIn education, content is the major thing. None of the pre-installed products come with any content to speak of.
2171.10/28/2007 10:40:00 AMWe just don't need any pre-installed Linux machine. If we can buy a windows box from Dell, we are getting Windows license, we can put Linux on that box anytime, but we will have a windows option. Buying Dell pre-installed with Linux- stupid, if we will have to convert it to the windows box, we will have to buy separate license!
2172.10/28/2007 10:50:00 AMWe have in house developed apps that need to be deployed.
2173.10/28/2007 11:26:00 AMNo need
2174.10/28/2007 11:34:00 AMI'm quite happy with OpenSuSE so why change?
2175.10/28/2007 12:05:00 PMI would like the distribution that I am familiar with to be installed, and as this is not always the case I would not like to switch distribution just to have it preinstalled.
2176.10/28/2007 12:23:00 PMUnfamiliarity
2177.10/28/2007 12:24:00 PMcost
2178.10/28/2007 12:28:00 PMNeed to integrate company-specific applications; need to offer freedom of choice to our users.
2179.10/28/2007 12:33:00 PMLack of compatibility with MS Office
2180.10/28/2007 1:39:00 PMCost: Downloading and installing from an .iso is free and results in just what I want.
2181.10/28/2007 2:10:00 PMNo optimization, we use source code to custom build and optimize our applications.
2182.10/28/2007 2:45:00 PMwe build our own systems
2183.10/28/2007 3:12:00 PMFor me personally, there is none. That is because I am comfortable with both Ubuntu and Debian and I am quite comfortable with &quot;apt-get&quot; or even &quot;rpm&quot; (installable on Debian) for that matter. My organization, the state government, is too reluctant to do anything to take a step in that direction having grown completely accustomed to Windows XP.
2184.10/28/2007 3:24:00 PMWe would want to customize the desktop
2185.10/28/2007 4:18:00 PMLack of total compatibility to non-linux applications
2186.10/28/2007 4:38:00 PMNone, just don't need any right now. If all the application support we need were available, and new/more desktops were needed, then yes, I would definitely choose pre-installed Linux desktops.
2187.10/28/2007 4:42:00 PMWe standardise on our way of installing Debian on our hardware requirements (NVidia)
2188.10/28/2007 5:00:00 PMGood for desktop usage, but when it comes to video editing, image editing, graphics, layout etc. the linux apps are too basic (when it comes to advanced features), and to unstable.
2189.10/28/2007 5:02:00 PMNot familiar with pre-installed products, but we would want Novell compatibility, KDE (and general Windows-resemblance) and something the IT staff would be familiar with. Expectation is that pre-installed product would make different decisions.
2190.10/28/2007 5:23:00 PMNot available from IBM
2191.10/28/2007 5:39:00 PMLack of sufficient support for syncing with mobile devices.
2192.10/28/2007 5:49:00 PMStill missing important applications
2193.10/28/2007 6:09:00 PMI am a consumer using linux, not a business. I prefer to build my own computers and install the OS myself
2194.10/28/2007 7:57:00 PMMost of the pre-installed products are not 100% GPL, or the Linux vendor has made some weird deals with Microsoft.
2195.10/28/2007 9:32:00 PMunavailability of accounting sw
2196.10/28/2007 9:41:00 PMWill they integrate with current systems.
2197.10/28/2007 9:49:00 PMNone personally.
2198.10/28/2007 11:19:00 PMLack of local availability
2199.10/28/2007 11:20:00 PMInstallation based on centralised image store allows current patch levels and business applications to be pre-installed in addition to OS.
2200.10/29/2007 12:47:00 AMOur ERP/Accounting-package client is only supported in native Windows.
2201.10/29/2007 12:51:00 AMI prefer to assemble my PC from particular parts and istall OS on my own (install RAID, LVM, prefered packages etc.) that are best suitable for my job.
2202.10/29/2007 1:03:00 AMSmall configuration issues that stop us dead in the water.
2203.10/29/2007 1:51:00 AMAdaptability wasn't the problem to begin with.
2204.10/29/2007 3:00:00 AMCost
2205.10/29/2007 3:19:00 AMit's useless
2206.10/29/2007 3:44:00 AMno preinstalled distros that we are interested in.
2207.10/29/2007 5:27:00 AMcost. I'd find it more affordable to install a system on used hardware.
2208.10/29/2007 6:10:00 AMinstalling from scratch is better.
2209.10/29/2007 6:29:00 AMTHEY UP THE PRICE OF THE COMPUTER, iT'S THE SAME AS WINDOWS
2210.10/29/2007 7:55:00 AMNo advantage over installing oneself.
2211.10/29/2007 8:13:00 AMUnfortunately, I am not the decision maker. I would love to buy these, but my company does not.
2212.10/29/2007 8:14:00 AMSecurity audit of preinstalled versions could be costy. We have got better control when preparing and deploying images ourselves.
2213.10/29/2007 8:20:00 AMBad default configuration
2214.10/29/2007 8:58:00 AMJust that our company would make their own distribution/install.
2215.10/29/2007 9:00:00 AMNot free as in freedom
2216.10/29/2007 9:02:00 AMJust prefer to install my own.
2217.10/29/2007 9:19:00 AMWe have so much self-developed applications that we have to deploy
2218.10/29/2007 9:24:00 AMWe've bought the hardware and we don't have money for that
2219.10/29/2007 10:01:00 AMThey would need customization that makes it easier to reinstall a standard image consisting of operating system and basic applications, common for all systems.
2220.10/29/2007 10:09:00 AMPrefer to install and setup ourselves to gain a better understanding
2221.10/29/2007 12:02:00 PMBecause of the many ways it can be set up, I prefer to do it myself.
2222.10/29/2007 12:04:00 PMwe customize every o/s install.
2223.10/29/2007 12:28:00 PMCorporate policy.
2224.10/29/2007 12:41:00 PMOur company builds its own images for a base system.
2225.10/29/2007 1:58:00 PMNone
2226.10/29/2007 2:02:00 PM2. Now that several pre-installed Linux products are available, would your organization be likely to deploy one or more of these pre-installed Linux desktop/client products? Above question does lack choices to answer it properly! Our answer is: We are pleased that pre-installed linux becomes more available and these products will be duly considered.
2227.10/29/2007 2:06:00 PMI'm not aware of any company doing preinstalls of OpenSuSE (which is my distro of choice both at home and at work). On the other hand, I personnaly don't care much for pre-installs. I much prefer to install the boxes myself, then image them if needed. I'm satisfied with a &quot;Linux supported on this hardware&quot; stamp. I'm all in favor of pushing for the unbundling of the OS from the HW.
2228.10/29/2007 2:17:00 PMI prefer install Linux on my own.
2229.10/29/2007 2:25:00 PMWe use custom corporate images with business apps and security hardening installed to corporate standards.
2230.10/29/2007 2:34:00 PMNot fit the personal needs. Some are overloaded with applications which aren't need (which needs support, after that for the user) and some are missing the tools we need. So we decide to setup a system by ourself which perfectly fit the individual needs.
2231.10/29/2007 2:35:00 PMI want to make RAID, etc.
2232.10/29/2007 2:41:00 PMSome critical tools are a few revisions behind what we need. Many third-party applications that are Linux native are not available in the package formats of most pre-installed Linux distributions.
2233.10/29/2007 2:59:00 PMI want to create my own install configuration.
2234.10/29/2007 3:07:00 PMHaven't used a pre-installed product.
2235.10/29/2007 3:11:00 PMI plan to make a LVM, RAID0 partitions, etc.
2236.10/29/2007 3:26:00 PMWe don't simply need them, it is more nerdy to do things myself. Installing Linux and it's applications to dozens of machines is not a problem.
2237.10/29/2007 3:31:00 PMI prefer to create partitions by myself.
2238.10/29/2007 3:54:00 PMI want to use my hardware RAID.
2239.10/29/2007 3:54:00 PMDesire custom development environments.
2240.10/29/2007 4:21:00 PMNot available on our preferred hardware Dell Optiplex &amp; Lattitude
2241.10/29/2007 5:06:00 PMGenerally we like to install the OS to our liking and generate an image of that configuration with application for deployment.
2242.10/29/2007 6:21:00 PMThose preinstalled versions do either not match our currently used versions or partition layout and software configuration does not match. This requires always fresh installations to the systems, so it doesn't help that there is something preloaded.
2243.10/29/2007 6:29:00 PMneed unified system management with RPM/yum tools already have Kickstart-based rapid deployment so preinstallation not a big savings
2244.10/29/2007 6:42:00 PMI would choose one; my responses represent my organization, no myself. I would say (a in the list of obstacles) that mindshare/FUD largely prevent my organization from moving forward on a migration. Too much resistance from entrenched Windows users, as well as a dependence on Microsoft Visual tools for our Windows software offerings, block the perception of a successful migration. I disagree wholeheartedly, but I'm not a C*O or a VP.
2245.10/29/2007 6:51:00 PMOur technical staff likes to have control, and we have several home-rolled monitoring / deployment systems we would be extending to Linux.
2246.10/29/2007 7:37:00 PMWe'd still need to load our specific software. Rather build an image and load that onto the workstations.
2247.10/29/2007 9:36:00 PMSmart phone support, workgroup calendar (we're still using MS Exchange)
2248.10/29/2007 10:48:00 PMCentOS is on the majority of our Linux boxes w/Pclinuxos coming in second are not available from many vendors. Redhat on the servers can be readily bought.
2249.10/29/2007 11:12:00 PMMost of our members are used to use Microsoft Windows system.
2250.10/30/2007 1:14:00 AMOur management.
2251.10/30/2007 1:37:00 AMcost
2252.10/30/2007 2:48:00 AMAlready own usable hardware.
2253.10/30/2007 3:08:00 AMNo vendor meets our hardware needs and pre-installs.
2254.10/30/2007 3:42:00 AMdrivers for already acquired peripherals
2255.10/30/2007 4:26:00 AMI can set them up as well or better.
2256.10/30/2007 4:38:00 AMI like to have full control over the hardware and software that is installed in each system.
2257.10/30/2007 4:54:00 AMNone in particular except that we tend to roll our own SOE onto various hardware as we see fit. Pre-installed is an excellent entry into the marketplace, especially because of the good driver support that it implies. It's just not for us.
2258.10/30/2007 4:55:00 AMn/a
2259.10/30/2007 5:19:00 AMNot enough vendors available in the current market place to give reasonable range of choices.
2260.10/30/2007 5:37:00 AMInstallation is not the issue, application support is the issue.
2261.10/30/2007 7:23:00 AMApplications available
2262.10/30/2007 8:04:00 AMNot distros I like. Too hard for Windoze users to come to terms with. Xandros is the best on offer for a ready to use Linux desktop in a world brought up on Windoze, and it's still not real prime-time stuff. I use Linux as a moral decision and because I dislike M$ and their products.
2263.10/30/2007 10:22:00 AMNo need
2264.10/30/2007 10:44:00 AMAt the present time, we build our own multi-boot systems to maximize productivity and minimize learning curve issues.
2265.10/30/2007 1:38:00 PMUser does not want to learn new ways of doing things.
2266.10/30/2007 2:48:00 PMWe heavily custoomize to meet our needs... Linux is better at customizatation than any other OS out there.
2267.10/30/2007 3:21:00 PMWe have our own distribution already - we wipe the OS from the factory whether it is Linux or not.
2268.10/30/2007 5:21:00 PMEase of / Ability to customize to my orginazation's needs.
2269.10/30/2007 6:30:00 PMInitial cost of upgrading existing equipment
2270.10/30/2007 6:50:00 PMunknown
2271.10/30/2007 7:26:00 PMSelection (if any) of distro's is far too limited (I'm not a fan of Debian-type package management).
2272.10/30/2007 8:51:00 PMHardware lockin
2273.10/30/2007 9:02:00 PMThird choice not available: 3) happy to see pre-installed, we will use in the future, we did not wait for pre-installed.
2274.10/30/2007 9:23:00 PMbloated with packages we do not need. it would take longer to install/uninstall packages not needed than to do a base install and go from there.
2275.10/30/2007 9:29:00 PMFew vendors offer few models. We prefer to choose hardware on its own merits, not just the fact it comes with Linux pre-installed. We have the tools to quickly and easily install exactly the Linux environment we need. Likely we would need to wipe any pre-installed Linux OS, so there is little advantage. Avoiding paying for a Windows license we don't need would be a cost benefit, however some of our Linux desktops are re-deployed as Windows desktops, so a &quot;unused&quot; dormant Windows license has advantages.
2276.10/30/2007 10:58:00 PMNone
2277.10/30/2007 11:57:00 PMNo issues; have hodge-podge of older PCs and cannot afford replacement. Therefore move to Linux would be installed in-house.
2278.10/31/2007 12:11:00 AMOur organization has very specific needs, and a customized Linux OS is the only way to currently meet these needs.
2279.10/31/2007 1:13:00 AMThe price is still expensive and some are without support.
2280.10/31/2007 1:50:00 AMIt may be ok for some users, but usually not for me... I either want to run a newer distro, or the distro of my choice.
2281.10/31/2007 2:54:00 AMPre-installed is not an issue. It is easy to install. Hardware support from hardware vendors is the key.
2282.10/31/2007 4:02:00 AMHave no problem installing alone
2283.10/31/2007 4:08:00 AMI have seen no such offerings on the market. That besides, the Linux installations we run need to be setup individually for specific purposes and in that configuration have been very successful. I see that kind of installation being the main use of Linux. When we need multiple data capture clients, Linux will be the choice.
2284.10/31/2007 6:15:00 AMDriver support, difficult to use, slow
2285.10/31/2007 12:48:00 PMLack of business critical applications, support for our peripherals, end user support and usability
2286.10/31/2007 1:31:00 PMThe lack of distribution choice. Ubuntu is not something I would choose in a business environment, yet that's all Dell sells. I've not seen any offerings from any other major computer manufacturers.
2287.10/31/2007 2:06:00 PMsupport
2288.10/31/2007 2:45:00 PMI would have answered Yes to the previous question but no to &quot;our organization has been waiting for pre-installed Linux offerings&quot;. Having them in a package is nice but we would install from an image that we created ourselves.
2289.10/31/2007 2:45:00 PMThe lectors in our university can't be persuaded to change the OS when there is no support for core applications. Without these applications teaching in some of the most important subjects would be impossible. As far as I know, there is no linux-equivalent (let alone an industry standard).
2290.10/31/2007 3:48:00 PMNot what my employees are used to using
2291.10/31/2007 4:33:00 PMInflexibility to adjust drivers, etc.
2292.10/31/2007 6:36:00 PMsome unstable versions and do not meet the requirements
2293.10/31/2007 7:30:00 PMToo generalized
2294.10/31/2007 7:52:00 PMWe customize our internal releases of Linux.
2295.10/31/2007 8:42:00 PMwe need specific software which does not have good analogs in linux
2296.10/31/2007 10:13:00 PMDepartmental support is not available as the platform of choice for clients and servers is Windows,
2297.10/31/2007 10:26:00 PMThere are no linux distribution that includes Gambas and other gambas related, cause we are very depend on Gambas.
2298.10/31/2007 10:29:00 PMCustomization is key and obviously it's opposite to the goal of pre-installed products.
2299.10/31/2007 11:56:00 PMna
2300.11/1/2007 2:02:00 AMno present need
2301.11/1/2007 3:34:00 AMThe OS and the hardware are two separate and distinct parts. It may or may not be a selling feature for retailers, but not for me.
2302.11/1/2007 9:37:00 AMNo need
2303.11/1/2007 11:37:00 AMConflicts with stategic company direction.
2304.11/1/2007 11:40:00 AMNone. I configure and image onsite.
2305.11/1/2007 2:19:00 PMpreference of distro
2306.11/1/2007 4:34:00 PMlack of interoperability with client's major applications and networks - e.g., MS Exchange and their &quot;approved&quot; OSes on their extranet connections.
2307.11/1/2007 4:34:00 PMStaff Technical Support
2308.11/1/2007 6:04:00 PMThe Brand The lack of history Very little business software
2309.11/1/2007 6:14:00 PMInternal competence.
2310.11/1/2007 8:32:00 PMwrong distribution
2311.11/1/2007 9:16:00 PMI can install any of them myself.
2312.11/1/2007 9:19:00 PMI don't buy branded computers
2313.11/2/2007 12:23:00 AMWe use entirely notebooks for client machines and require uniformity - common, customized installations.
2314.11/2/2007 3:37:00 AMnone
2315.11/2/2007 8:34:00 AMCustomization, streamlined enterprise wide desktop management
2316.11/2/2007 11:17:00 AMsupport
2317.11/2/2007 11:36:00 AMno issues, just don't require such a solution. Standard gentoo and slackware meet our current needs
2318.11/2/2007 12:37:00 PMNone. My superiors don't like them, though
2319.11/2/2007 3:37:00 PMPrefer to use a custom built desktop with only need software.
2320.11/2/2007 3:48:00 PMWe would want a full end to end management solution which may not exist with just buying a pre installed product.
2321.11/2/2007 3:51:00 PMinertia, fear of the unknown, possiblity of &quot;backlash&quot; by Microsoft if we went completely Linux.
2322.11/2/2007 7:26:00 PMbudget
2323.11/2/2007 8:38:00 PMDon't trust Dell, prefer to make own hardware to meet specific requirements.
2324.11/2/2007 9:31:00 PMWe are a small organization with IT staff capable of buying components and building the PCs for the enterprise. No other reason.
2325.11/2/2007 10:20:00 PMEnd user familiarity with Linux would still be an issue.
2326.11/3/2007 1:13:00 AMEverything that I use is too difficult to fit in a box
2327.11/3/2007 1:33:00 AMDell needs to offer SLED
2328.11/3/2007 6:08:00 AM1.support on hardware devices such as wireless network card and some applications. 2.linux is difficult to manage
2329.11/3/2007 10:03:00 AMSupport for custom images not yet available as an option.
2330.11/3/2007 1:48:00 PMWe don't require these products.
2331.11/3/2007 5:57:00 PMNot the models that we are looking for. + free windows licenses from mother company, so no financial gain and not other immediate benefit that could convince management Result: only some individuals make the move
2332.11/3/2007 6:03:00 PMNone really, just so easy to buy generic hw and install Linux on site.
2333.11/3/2007 7:33:00 PMThere's no real willingness to switch to Linux in our userbase. It's a small company and people can choose freely what they want to use. Also, there are some application/hardware problems with Linux anyway.
2334.11/3/2007 11:28:00 PMNo need. I am confident doing it myself.
2335.11/4/2007 2:02:00 AMDistribution. Limited selection of hardware.
2336.11/4/2007 4:49:00 AMit limits our hardware choices. it's worth paying slightly more to get exactly the hardware we want.
2337.11/4/2007 5:07:00 AMStable office apps. OpenOffice.org is still buggy and I'm not aware of a viable Outlook replacement. Also, the mindset of the Windows-only IT shop is a huge hurdle. They think that Linux is Charlie Brown's friend with the blanket.
2338.11/4/2007 5:07:00 AMWe prefer to purchase from local vendors who do not presently offer pre-installed products
2339.11/4/2007 11:07:00 AMNever seen or used one of them.
2340.11/4/2007 12:27:00 PMWe use a specific configuration that can be ghosted between the machines.
2341.11/4/2007 5:40:00 PMOnly offered on very low end machines.
2342.11/4/2007 6:20:00 PMsecurity, partitioning, and integration with configuration management systems already in place.
2343.11/4/2007 7:02:00 PMAs a university we believe we have the capability to install and customize the OS and Applications to meet the varying needs of our clients. Pre-installed machines tend to be one size fits all model.
2344.11/4/2007 8:43:00 PMWe use a bespoke OS based on Fedora
2345.11/4/2007 10:25:00 PMOur installations are fairly customized to our environment. We would need to reinstall anyway.
2346.11/5/2007 3:49:00 AMI can build my own PCs and install my own OSs. I'm not lazy, or incapable of doing things for myself like so many suits that I know.
2347.11/5/2007 3:59:00 AMCompany has a standard desktop install that can't be provided by a pre-installer.
2348.11/5/2007 4:49:00 AMWe prefer to customise installations.
2349.11/5/2007 6:28:00 AMWe assemble and configure our own computers.
2350.11/5/2007 6:33:00 AMlocalised software updates
2351.11/5/2007 6:39:00 AMWe spec and put together our own systems, so obviously pre-installed products aren't going to be a factor at all.
2352.11/5/2007 7:18:00 AMReally N/A. I do not need the pre-installed systems. I've done all the installs myself.
2353.11/5/2007 9:32:00 AMLack of interest in learning.
2354.11/5/2007 12:01:00 PMmicrosoft compitability/monopoly isssues
2355.11/5/2007 1:23:00 PMOur organization creates standard images that are installed on all systems.
2356.11/5/2007 2:33:00 PMLAck of special software support and Explorer plugins
2357.11/5/2007 2:49:00 PMOnly ubuntu pre-installed desktops ...
2358.11/5/2007 4:00:00 PMI am satisfied with the hardware I have.
2359.11/5/2007 11:35:00 PMI have heard that the hardware is very poor quality.
2360.11/6/2007 12:10:00 AMNot comparitively cheaper. Threats of litigation / breakage of contract from MS? Also, quality of applications not on par as far as Linux is concerned. Licensing issues and long term support is looked at by bigger organisations and that stability of service is perceived to be lacking in a &quot;community&quot; development.
2361.11/6/2007 3:34:00 AMDon't quite meet the needs, pre-installed products would still have to be adapted.
2362.11/6/2007 3:43:00 AMLack of major integration with ots management packages, e.g. altiris, etc.
2363.11/6/2007 6:23:00 AMWe still prefer to use dual boot systems to use VOIP, Web Cams, and VPN (logmein)
2364.11/6/2007 9:59:00 AMLess control.
2365.11/6/2007 2:14:00 PMI prefer to test and install my own
2366.11/6/2007 5:47:00 PMAbility to tailor installed products for organization
2367.11/6/2007 5:47:00 PMWe have a basic Windows image we employ for each PC, which is then tweaked with user applications and needs.
2368.11/6/2007 5:49:00 PMIndustry usage
2369.11/6/2007 6:18:00 PMDon't meet our needs.
2370.11/6/2007 7:23:00 PMN/A
2371.11/6/2007 8:10:00 PMSometimes default installation is not stable or safe
2372.11/6/2007 9:24:00 PMOddly enough, they're *more* feature-rich than we would want - in our case, it would be easier to take a minimal install of Slackware, Debian, or some such and add only the things we need. The &quot;extras&quot; in many full installations (and certainly the preinstalled varieties) will create problems with complying with out IT policies.
2373.11/6/2007 9:33:00 PMOur needs are too complex to and sublocation dependent that they wouldn't be flexible enough for our special needs.
2374.11/6/2007 10:48:00 PMI like to install my own OS and not have someone else set up passwords and customization or lack of it. I end up reinstalling the OS to my specifications anyway.
2375.11/6/2007 11:16:00 PMIf a client was invested in an calendar, accounting, billing, or inventory program... Linux would need to address a replacement, along with data export and import.
2376.11/7/2007 4:10:00 AMwe install all operating systems and applications manually
2377.11/7/2007 4:43:00 AMI am sure the pre-installed linux products are fine but we have been 'rolling our own' for the past 10-plus years and it's working out just fine that way.
2378.11/7/2007 5:20:00 AMWe've built our system sort of &quot;on the fly&quot;, installing ubuntu first on a machine that kept crashing winxp/pro-corporate. After linux, no crashes. The most difficult part has been, and remains migrating an MS-Access inventory app that we put together years ago. OOo so farhas not made it easy, we're still clubbing that one into submission.
2379.11/7/2007 5:42:00 AMWe need very specific controls on how we set up our preconfigured user environemnts (default settings, special packages, LDAP settings, etc). We already have a network based (kickstart) Linux roll out and provisioning system for our servers, so retrofitting it for our desktops is not a major deal. Plus our RHSS system is capable of handling all of our patch control.
2380.11/7/2007 7:41:00 AMcost
2381.11/7/2007 9:20:00 AMProprietary formats and codecs.
2382.11/7/2007 9:50:00 AMDon't need them. Do our own installation.
2383.11/7/2007 11:06:00 AMThere are no issues. We just have no need for preinstalled Linux - we can do it ourselves.
2384.11/7/2007 1:51:00 PMMicrosoft products are entrenched too deeply in the organization.
2385.11/7/2007 2:54:00 PMFlexibility
2386.11/7/2007 4:00:00 PMWe have specific extras we need to add to enable the machines to run on our network this could only be pre-installed via a image. In doing this the problem would be that we have varied pc hardware specs for scientists and at present this wouldn't work as each machine is individual.
2387.11/7/2007 4:44:00 PMAs the person in charge of a small companies IT, I'd rather roll my own, mount an iso over nfs and customize the install at the time, either manually or by using kickstart. With a pre-installed I have to wonder if everything installed would be what I want. But hey, maybe that is just the geek in me. Pre-installed products certainly do have value and could be a time saver.
2388.11/7/2007 4:56:00 PMNo issues - we always create a customized disk image no matter what the desktop.
2389.11/7/2007 6:06:00 PMSecurity concerns, unneeded applications/drivers/utilities installed, lack of centralized management.
2390.11/7/2007 6:23:00 PMthe people that choose to run linux as their workstation install it themselves
2391.11/7/2007 8:08:00 PMNot offered by our hardware vendor
2392.11/7/2007 8:17:00 PMintegration with Windows Network, Single sign-on
2393.11/7/2007 11:55:00 PMThey do not tackle our major obstacles, mainy the encryption token support.
2394.11/8/2007 12:40:00 AMBeing tied to a distro like Ubuntu that I personally don't like as much as PCLOS. Vendors willing to sell a bare naked machine at a discount would be favoured.
2395.11/8/2007 8:23:00 AMThere are over 300 Linux distributions available at the moment. They all have their good and not so good points. I am currently testing my 24 distribution to see which one is best for me. LinuxMint has so far shown to be the best!
2396.11/8/2007 10:22:00 AMPolicys
2397.11/8/2007 1:44:00 PMWe prefer to customize our own.
2398.11/8/2007 11:27:00 PMWe are using custom not of the shelf hardver.
2399.11/9/2007 8:14:00 AMTrying to be proprietary instead of just being a default loadout which just happens to have the right drivers present.
2400.11/9/2007 9:44:00 AMinertia
2401.11/9/2007 11:58:00 AMlack of customization
2402.11/10/2007 2:53:00 AMProbably do not want to use the pre-installed distro.
2403.11/10/2007 3:40:00 AMDistribution choices in some cases, perks (cost) for buying with w32
2404.11/10/2007 5:03:00 PMLegacy hardware driver support.
2405.11/10/2007 7:05:00 PMChoice of hardware limited
2406.11/10/2007 7:40:00 PMwe use diskless workstations
2407.11/10/2007 10:03:00 PMMissing harddrive encryption, smartcard readers, ActiveDirectory or other LDAP centrally managed access control etc. No pre-installed products in Finland available.
2408.11/11/2007 3:29:00 AMLoyalty to Microsoft applications
2409.11/12/2007 1:33:00 PMDriver support (e.g.: Canon printers)
2410.11/12/2007 1:40:00 PMspeed
2411.11/12/2007 4:12:00 PMThere are no issues. Your questionnaire is biased to suggest there are issues whether answering yes or no to that question.
2412.11/12/2007 9:09:00 PMThe computer hardware that it's pre-installed on. It's not always set up or cost effective as a gaming computer. My company is working on improving the quality of gaming on the Linux OS.
2413.11/14/2007 4:15:00 AMUnsure....tend to install ourselves
2414.11/14/2007 7:55:00 AMNone, Problem is Redmond Giant which uses dirty tricks to maintain monopoly at any cost in developing nations by engaging in anti-competitive activites.
2415.11/14/2007 2:42:00 PMNot a concern of mine
2416.11/14/2007 8:09:00 PMgnome vs. kde
2417.11/15/2007 11:42:00 AMMicrosoft
2418.11/15/2007 7:50:00 PMWe prefer to do it in house. If I have to support it I am going to build it. We do have some Linux based appliances installed here but not pre-installed Linux servers.
2419.11/16/2007 12:40:00 AMCompany policies for hardware and software buying. There are Enterprise wide approved hardware distributors, and Desktops come with Windows or without OS. The Linux installations are done with fully automated procedures at the workplace from install server, there are no user interactions within installation process. There are No pre-installed Linux Desktops are available.
2420.11/16/2007 1:50:00 PMThere are too many distributions and the pre-installed may not be our choice.
2421.11/16/2007 4:06:00 PMWe already have everything in place, and i would hate to have to replace the boxes controlling our CnC machines
2422.11/16/2007 4:32:00 PMGraphic and Audio Drivers and Support
2423.11/19/2007 1:34:00 AMI don't need them -- I build my own systems &amp; install the OS I need. Since I can D/L any distro I want for free, why pay someone else for it?
2424.11/19/2007 10:29:00 AMlack of customisation
2425.11/19/2007 2:32:00 PMMany custom applications - development of our own standard operating environment (SOE) would be more suitable.
2426.11/19/2007 4:10:00 PMNot neccessary.
2427.11/19/2007 6:34:00 PMSettings, Distro installed
2428.11/20/2007 7:29:00 AMNone. But it is better to have a custom build.
2429.11/22/2007 7:17:00 AMI like knowing exactly what is in my system, and how it was built. I can manage it better that way.
2430.11/22/2007 7:28:00 AMNone of our partner hardware companies provide preinstalled linux desktops. We only deal with HP, and HP doesnt have any desktops with Linux preinstalled
2431.11/22/2007 10:20:00 AMpackage selection
2432.11/22/2007 10:40:00 AMNo plan to deploy Linux so they are not applicable
2433.11/22/2007 10:53:00 AMCustumization
2434.11/22/2007 11:35:00 AMDepends on the distributions offered.
2435.11/22/2007 1:14:00 PMWill not pay for new hardware. Instead install Linux on existing one.
2436.11/22/2007 2:51:00 PMcost
2437.11/22/2007 3:05:00 PMI like to have everything set up by myself and in my fashion ;), that is why i use gentoo.
2438.11/22/2007 5:13:00 PM!
2439.11/22/2007 6:13:00 PMdon't understand this question
2440.11/22/2007 6:52:00 PMOur organization provides PC vendors with our own cutom image. In other words, we create our own &quot;pre-installed&quot; product which is pre-configured for our use.
2441.11/22/2007 7:23:00 PMToo much bloat = too much to go wrong. We like things &quot;small and simple.&quot;
2442.11/22/2007 8:02:00 PMDon't want desktops, we want thin clients using NoMachine and/or XDCMP on the server.
2443.11/22/2007 8:12:00 PMI'm quite happy to source cheaper parts and have in house installation if necessary
2444.11/22/2007 8:26:00 PMWe make custom installs anyway. And don't have many end-users desktops in total.
2445.11/22/2007 8:29:00 PMI only need pre-installed laptops and then only for pcLinuxos.
2446.11/22/2007 8:41:00 PMNot needed... we prefer to buy OS-less systems.
2447.11/22/2007 8:47:00 PMthe pre-installed OS can't be trusted
2448.11/22/2007 8:48:00 PMnot to answer this question - but a note on the previous one. The yes and no do not necessarily translate to the description. One may have no plans to use the preinstalled, but not because they do not meet a business need (current cost , need for upgrade may be a factor). However, saying that I am likely to get a OLPC in the 1&amp;1 deal.
2449.11/22/2007 8:49:00 PMNo need for new products
2450.11/22/2007 8:51:00 PMLack of customization
2451.11/22/2007 8:52:00 PMtoo much customization needed
2452.11/22/2007 8:54:00 PMNot familiar with them.
2453.11/22/2007 8:55:00 PMAre not 100% compatible with current Windows/Office offerings
2454.11/22/2007 8:55:00 PMIt's easier to install the distro of your choice yourself
2455.11/22/2007 8:57:00 PMOverly complex and hard to use. Too much like Windows.
2456.11/22/2007 8:59:00 PMLack of choices for laptops - need more high end choices
2457.11/22/2007 9:01:00 PMNo need
2458.11/22/2007 9:02:00 PMGeneric Linux installation. More installed than what is wanted.
2459.11/22/2007 9:02:00 PMI don't like anything pre-installed... that's pretty much it.
2460.11/22/2007 9:02:00 PMChoices are not flexible
2461.11/22/2007 9:02:00 PMpoor vendor driver support
2462.11/22/2007 9:05:00 PMlimited hw configurations, limited distribution choice, limited warranty
2463.11/22/2007 9:07:00 PMExclusive deal with a hardware vendor, so that vendor would need to start offering Linux PCs. Other than that, no obstacle, as we buy over 90 % of the computers without an OS.
2464.11/22/2007 9:07:00 PMWe would like to do things our way..
2465.11/22/2007 9:07:00 PMHas to work with laptop harware.
2466.11/22/2007 9:10:00 PMgeographical
2467.11/22/2007 9:10:00 PMCADD support. Essentially need AutoCAD/Civil3D for Linux.
2468.11/22/2007 9:12:00 PMwe need a (UK) business accounting package
2469.11/22/2007 9:13:00 PMProducts available are mostly low-end machines
2470.11/22/2007 9:15:00 PMlack of configurability with the products
2471.11/22/2007 9:17:00 PMWe do not use factory installed windows, prefering our own customized installs, we will/are doing the same for linux. Bare/Naked systems are just as good for us as preinstalled Linux, as we will reinstall it. Some Microsoft license is probably best, as we have a Microsoft Enterprise agreement, and that OEM license will let use use upgrade rights, and may permit us to use it under a VM if needed.
2472.11/22/2007 9:19:00 PMWe have a company policy that requires us to create our own SOE, pre-installed is not a problem, just won't meet with this policy.
2473.11/22/2007 9:22:00 PMnothing prevents me. Just not a big deal. Any off-the-shelf box needs customized apps installed. With debian style package management, the OS is a tiny additional adder to the rest.
2474.11/22/2007 9:22:00 PMI feel a custom &quot;clean slate&quot; installation would be the way to go to get the right complement of services and software.
2475.11/22/2007 9:22:00 PMEasy to install on site
2476.11/22/2007 9:23:00 PMIt's easier to develop a base config and mirror/install centrally.
2477.11/22/2007 9:23:00 PMSupport from vendor
2478.11/22/2007 9:24:00 PMcustom setup preferable/easier for IT group
2479.11/22/2007 9:24:00 PMThere's no real issues, but we would already build a custom image and re-image all of the machines anyway, so pre-installed doesn't do a whole lot for us other than verify that the machine does have linux drivers available.
2480.11/22/2007 9:24:00 PMPorting current custom Linux applications to a new system.
2481.11/22/2007 9:26:00 PMnone, actually.
2482.11/22/2007 9:29:00 PMDifficulty in communicating custom configuration to vendors.
2483.11/22/2007 9:29:00 PMneed to be dual boot
2484.11/22/2007 9:29:00 PMWe don't use any pre-installed desktops, they are all installed in-house. So it doesn't apply.
2485.11/22/2007 9:30:00 PMLimited support for specific hardware
2486.11/22/2007 9:30:00 PMExisting hardware supplier contracts
2487.11/22/2007 9:31:00 PMDo not have all of the packages we need by default.
2488.11/22/2007 9:36:00 PMNo OSS permitted within defense
2489.11/22/2007 9:36:00 PMWe build our own machines
2490.11/22/2007 9:37:00 PMWe image all our desktops.
2491.11/22/2007 9:38:00 PMprice and choice
2492.11/22/2007 9:38:00 PMThey dont solve the problems with application support.
2493.11/22/2007 9:38:00 PMCustomizability.
2494.11/22/2007 9:39:00 PMNo issue with linux, issue with in house applications which require ie7 to run.
2495.11/22/2007 9:39:00 PMJust not how things are done here.
2496.11/22/2007 9:40:00 PMcost - pre-installed products are often more expensive than equivalent machines (even with &quot;Windows-tax&quot;)
2497.11/22/2007 9:40:00 PMDistro support
2498.11/22/2007 9:40:00 PMBog standard, OEM deployments require to much tweaking to be economically viable.
2499.11/22/2007 9:41:00 PMThey usually have very rigid spec options. I like to choose the machine I want AND the operating system I want. I will not choose a machine because of the OS pre-installed on it, nor will I choose an OS because it is pr-installed on the machine I want.
2500.11/22/2007 9:42:00 PMCost.
2501.11/22/2007 9:43:00 PMMost are Ubuntu based, we use openSUSE and SLED
2502.11/22/2007 9:43:00 PMPreinstallation would require the vendor to offer a customized preinstalled Linux that meets my specific requirements, ie choice of distribution, periferal support (tablet, phone etc and I would want support, I'm for it right). If not I might as well do it myself!
2503.11/22/2007 9:43:00 PMDon't need pre-installed Linux, technical staff is more than capable of installing and configuring with minimum hassle onto white box hardware
2504.11/22/2007 9:44:00 PMcan't buy them locally
2505.11/22/2007 9:45:00 PMDistribution selection. We prefer Fedora/CentOS/Redhat
2506.11/22/2007 9:48:00 PMExisting Window Managers are seriously overweight. Code Bloat in general.
2507.11/22/2007 9:49:00 PMNo need for it.
2508.11/22/2007 9:50:00 PMNone that I know of... Management decision makers are the real obstacle.
2509.11/22/2007 9:51:00 PMWe use standardized deployment of desktop OS
2510.11/22/2007 9:52:00 PMUsing of specific hardware required.
2511.11/22/2007 9:54:00 PMWe prefer to install them in-house on custom machines
2512.11/22/2007 9:56:00 PMNo real issues. It's just not necessary because desktop computers in my department are built within the department, so a pre-installed system is not useful.
2513.11/22/2007 9:58:00 PMthere aren't. We use whatever meets our need, which is mostly provable reliability. For some things we use RHEL (postfix, squid, apache), for other not because other offerings perform better
2514.11/22/2007 9:59:00 PMControl
2515.11/22/2007 10:00:00 PMToo little choice maybe
2516.11/22/2007 10:01:00 PMnot available from most large vendors, still not sufficient hardware support, whole product range not available.
2517.11/22/2007 10:01:00 PMAll PCs coming into the company are wiped before use, to insure no alien software enters the network from that vector.
2518.11/22/2007 10:01:00 PMNeed to reconfigure machines for software testing and changes in development environment.
2519.11/22/2007 10:02:00 PMwe can do by ourselves
2520.11/22/2007 10:02:00 PMn/t
2521.11/22/2007 10:03:00 PMInexistant offering in our part ot the world...
2522.11/22/2007 10:03:00 PMNo need.
2523.11/22/2007 10:04:00 PMDeviation from standards, proprietary tweaks and assumptions made by the OEM.
2524.11/22/2007 10:04:00 PMNo pure Debian available for desktops AFAIK, Ubuntu's track record for upgrades just isn't there
2525.11/22/2007 10:04:00 PMI simply don't need it -- we do all our own installs anyway.
2526.11/22/2007 10:07:00 PMIt's unnecessary. Ubuntu installs are easy, and if we do it ourselves we can have increased confidence in the security of those machines. No rootkits installed before we get them!
2527.11/22/2007 10:08:00 PMOnly available on very limited models
2528.11/22/2007 10:15:00 PMwe have internal departments that perform installations themselves.
2529.11/22/2007 10:16:00 PMOur desktop linux environment consists of appliances running a single livecd image across the company (9 sites around au). There is no requirement for preinstalled linux, but we would give preference to hardware suppliers who do offer it.
2530.11/22/2007 10:19:00 PMWe tend to need dual boot for testing so we buy windows installed and users with a preference install their preferred distribution
2531.11/22/2007 10:21:00 PMWe install all operating systems ourselves
2532.11/22/2007 10:21:00 PMWe run clusters where the ability to create and install homogeneous OS images is critical. We routinely wipe our nodes completely to reimage. We have many different distros imaged.
2533.11/22/2007 10:22:00 PMNot the way I want it. Easy enough for me to deploy.
2534.11/22/2007 10:22:00 PMCustomization. We use Slackware on our servers because it is very simple and we can build anything out of them ourself.
2535.11/22/2007 10:23:00 PMNot customised.
2536.11/22/2007 10:23:00 PMWrong question: It's not about whether it is pre-installed or not. We are not seriously considering Linux on the desktop at this moment. And as our IT service provider is a Windows-only shop we will probably stay with Windows on the server as well. We are happy with our service provider, and switching to Linux would mean to look for another service provider. And who really wants to change the dentist you are happy with?
2537.11/22/2007 10:23:00 PMBeing able to trust/verify pre-installed software.
2538.11/22/2007 10:24:00 PMWe prefer to build our own machines, including OS installation so we can keep versions in sync.
2539.11/22/2007 10:25:00 PMWe would prefer to control the deployment internally
2540.11/22/2007 10:27:00 PMWe have a custom system for deploying virtual machines.
2541.11/22/2007 10:28:00 PMCurrently the type of distributions available pre-installed do not meet our needs
2542.11/22/2007 10:28:00 PMPeople want to choose their own distro. No need to force people.
2543.11/22/2007 10:29:00 PMNone. It's just that we prefer to custom build our systems.
2544.11/22/2007 10:29:00 PMA company-approved OS install image is required, built, and installed anyway, so blank hard drives would be preferable.
2545.11/22/2007 10:30:00 PMNone
2546.11/22/2007 10:33:00 PMlimited hardware available.
2547.11/22/2007 10:33:00 PMLack of trust, Lack of use of std software, vendor lock-in (if drivers are locked to vendor - I'm looking at you RedHat - then there is no impetus to actually fix them - Perc Raid Driver for example, which the developer, alan Cox describes as &quot;a steaming pile of shit&quot;
2548.11/22/2007 10:34:00 PMwe're already deployed linux to all the developer machines.
2549.11/22/2007 10:34:00 PMThe only issue is the company not wanting to switch to Linux since we already have a Windows implementation.
2550.11/22/2007 10:34:00 PMDoes not match our needs.
2551.11/22/2007 10:35:00 PMWe assemble and sell custom computers. Buying a Dell to resell is not cost effective for us.
2552.11/22/2007 10:35:00 PMlack of flexibility
2553.11/22/2007 10:35:00 PMtraditionally we roll our own.
2554.11/22/2007 10:36:00 PMnot useable for rich client software development or running of internal apps.
2555.11/22/2007 10:40:00 PMNothing. Application availability (AutoCAD/WordPerfect) is the only problem.
2556.11/22/2007 10:41:00 PMNo major issue, installing via image is a matter of course, so just lack of interest.
2557.11/22/2007 10:43:00 PMNo issue. We can just do it ourselves. Biggest issue is still there... office productivity tools. Outlook/exchange integration including calendar, and VPN.
2558.11/22/2007 10:43:00 PMWe require customized setups, which we don't expect from pre-installed products. This is a strength of linux for us, not an obstacle
2559.11/22/2007 10:43:00 PMNo issues, just no interest. Linux is very easy to deploy (much simpler than windows), so it is simply not a concern. I'm not against using something pre-installed, but it's also not a purchasing factor.
2560.11/22/2007 10:47:00 PMWe have our own SOE and build requirements. Simpler to manage as an internal IT issue.
2561.11/22/2007 10:47:00 PMIt costs less to get a Dell with windows then with Linux.
2562.11/22/2007 10:47:00 PMclueless users, lack of out-of-the-box support for proprietary software, many custom windows-only apps
2563.11/22/2007 10:48:00 PMControl. The &quot;keep it simple&quot; philosophy of Slackware allows me to easily tailor our environment (which is networked with Linux Terminal Server Project) to our needs.
2564.11/22/2007 10:49:00 PMUS-centric options, lack of long-support versions, lack of existing government contracts with sellers.
2565.11/22/2007 10:50:00 PMwe have in-house linux expertise and like a more flexible solution
2566.11/22/2007 10:52:00 PMWe install our own desktops/workstations/servers, with hardware we spec out ourselves. It's not that the vendors are bad, it's just that they're merely adequate, and we're a small, somewhat hardcore geeky company.
2567.11/22/2007 10:52:00 PMW
2568.11/22/2007 10:55:00 PMdoesn't meet our requirement
2569.11/22/2007 10:57:00 PMNone. Major 'industry standard' and government applications we require will not run on linux.
2570.11/22/2007 10:58:00 PMLinux is used as an engineering platform only, most installs are on older hardware, and all Linux boxes require a custom install of development tools.
2571.11/22/2007 10:58:00 PMN/A but hardware dose not meet our needs, easier to do custom and toss linux on it.
2572.11/22/2007 10:59:00 PMOrganisation just not interested.
2573.11/22/2007 11:01:00 PMWe can do it ourselves. Thank you though.
2574.11/22/2007 11:02:00 PMCost.
2575.11/22/2007 11:06:00 PMBLOAT
2576.11/22/2007 11:07:00 PMI want new machines to fit my existing environment, not what vendor x, y or z thinks is useful. It's not that big a deal to install the big distros now as long as you're careful about peripherals. Also I bought one machine recently from a linux-only vendor, and the hardware quality was too low -- big problems in about a year of use.
2577.11/22/2007 11:07:00 PMNone. We reinstall anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
2578.11/22/2007 11:07:00 PMNo need for external services.
2579.11/22/2007 11:08:00 PMdo not need them
2580.11/22/2007 11:10:00 PMLosing customizability
2581.11/22/2007 11:11:00 PMInfrastructure is unique.
2582.11/22/2007 11:13:00 PMNone. I always install the operating system myself on machines I build myself so have no need for a preinstalled solution.
2583.11/22/2007 11:14:00 PMSpecific applications designed only for windows software that are required for critical business functions.
2584.11/22/2007 11:14:00 PMwe need very specific kernel features, software and configurations.
2585.11/22/2007 11:15:00 PMDependability of components.
2586.11/22/2007 11:19:00 PMThe only ones we know of that would be available to use are from Dell and their cost is prohibitive for the power of the machines, we can build our own better and cheaper and install ourselves.
2587.11/22/2007 11:20:00 PMThere are no major issues, I just prefer to choose my own hardware and install the software, including the OS myself. I think the pre-installed products are a good idea.
2588.11/22/2007 11:20:00 PMWe have no plans to migrate to any Linux-based desktop in any immediate future.
2589.11/22/2007 11:22:00 PMBecause i can just as easily install myself
2590.11/22/2007 11:24:00 PMToo many packages installed that we don't need/want.
2591.11/22/2007 11:26:00 PMI prefer to handle my own installs.
2592.11/22/2007 11:27:00 PMNo major issues; question is black and white; pre-installation is not an issue either way.
2593.11/22/2007 11:28:00 PMno requirement for pre-installed.
2594.11/22/2007 11:32:00 PMWhats the point?
2595.11/22/2007 11:33:00 PMLack of standardization on applications installed
2596.11/22/2007 11:34:00 PMPolitical Issues and Dependency on Windows only apps.
2597.11/22/2007 11:35:00 PMGood to know there is driver support, but otherwise unneeded.
2598.11/22/2007 11:37:00 PMPoorly Configured, Limited selection of systems, Limited availability
2599.11/22/2007 11:37:00 PMCorporate inertia
2600.11/22/2007 11:37:00 PM1. Prefer Mandriva, which is not widely pre-installed 2. For desktops, purchase barebones systems with no pre-installed software to avoid paying Windows tax
2601.11/22/2007 11:37:00 PMi am very choosy about hardware and so off the shelf systems are no good for me.
2602.11/22/2007 11:39:00 PMNO real obstacles, just prefer freedom to dsource hardware and install my chosen distro
2603.11/22/2007 11:41:00 PMThere is no requirement to move to Linux in the group at the moment.
2604.11/22/2007 11:41:00 PMWe prefer to customize the deployment, and then install it quickly on machines over the network, rather than reconfigure every box of pre-installed Linux.
2605.11/22/2007 11:44:00 PM-
2606.11/22/2007 11:47:00 PMOur newer computers need to run Adobe software (and therefore Windows), it is only after they can't run high end software anymore that they have Linux installed and are used by developers.
2607.11/22/2007 11:50:00 PMThe scientific applications are best installed by hand.
2608.11/22/2007 11:52:00 PMPrefer a blank system and install our own
2609.11/22/2007 11:54:00 PMUpgrade support and customization management
2610.11/22/2007 11:54:00 PMWe'd prefer to do it ourselves and choose what fits best for us.
2611.11/22/2007 11:55:00 PMPre-installation isn't an obstacle - it's actually a good indicator that appropriate device drivers exist; HOWEVER: we will install *our* specific configuration over whatever gets delivered.
2612.11/22/2007 11:56:00 PMI'd have to customise them anyway, where is the advantage of installing exactly what I need from scratch?
2613.11/22/2007 11:57:00 PMMostly availability in my region, but also they are usually low-end boxes which don't meet our requirements.
2614.11/22/2007 11:58:00 PMLack of fedora offering.
2615.11/22/2007 11:58:00 PMsecurity policy
2616.11/22/2007 11:59:00 PMLack of sufficient variety, not many available in New Zealand
2617.11/23/2007 12:03:00 AMThey want to tight us under their view of bussiness, instead of offering us proper freedom to go our way.
2618.11/23/2007 12:03:00 AMSetup (both hardware and software) usually does not meet our expectations. We do it ourself.
2619.11/23/2007 12:03:00 AMAlready happy with what we have.
2620.11/23/2007 12:04:00 AMWe have a complete set of hardware for the next 3-year cycle.
2621.11/23/2007 12:05:00 AMcustom setup is simply better
2622.11/23/2007 12:09:00 AMThe need to figure out how the software is set up, for reasons of both security and usability; as opposed to setting up the systems from scratch, knowing how everything is configured.
2623.11/23/2007 12:09:00 AMWe would prefer to install our own systems.
2624.11/23/2007 12:11:00 AMVersion obsolescence. As soon as a desktop with a pre-installed Linux shipped out, enough of the included software would be outdated as to negate the benefit of pre-installation.
2625.11/23/2007 12:12:00 AMDesktop Linux is not entirely uniform between distributions. Vendors usually offer only one operating system as an install choice, but if the hardware works, then that's usually enough for us.
2626.11/23/2007 12:16:00 AMAvailability, price, support
2627.11/23/2007 12:17:00 AMcustomizability
2628.11/23/2007 12:18:00 AMNo major issues, but rather no need for them.
2629.11/23/2007 12:20:00 AM1. None meet all of our needs. 2. No OEM meets all current hardware needs
2630.11/23/2007 12:24:00 AMLack of real end-to-end Exchange replacement. ie; Calendar, with full thick client and PDA/Smartphone syncing.
2631.11/23/2007 12:24:00 AMDoesn't solve any of the issues that we have with non pre-installed products. Pre-Installation of the desktop, while nice, is not too big of an issue, as we can do it ourselves.
2632.11/23/2007 12:25:00 AMcost-benefit ratio not attractive enough to replace existing hardware.
2633.11/23/2007 12:26:00 AMThey're competently-built machines, but it's much easier for us to roll out images of our own installations than to try to configure/update pre-installed systems.
2634.11/23/2007 12:28:00 AMNo need for one. Our system is very customized - and has to be.
2635.11/23/2007 12:31:00 AMWe have very custom wants/needs
2636.11/23/2007 12:31:00 AMWhat's the point? They'd just be more expensive than buying the 5 parts myself and putting them together. The only company in recent memory I've seen with pre-installed Linux support is Dell, whose hardware, laptops, and customer support are infamous. There's just no way I'd subject anybody to that.
2637.11/23/2007 12:34:00 AMOur organisation has pre-configured gentoo installations. We have no need for pre-installed products when we can just mirror the hard drives to have a duplicated system.
2638.11/23/2007 12:36:00 AMI always prefer a custom install so I have more control over how the machine is set up. Specifically, I prefer to always keep /home on a separate partition and usually set up an encrypted partition for sensitive data.
2639.11/23/2007 12:39:00 AMWe do not use pre-installed OSes and reimage even with Windows, to meet our deployment and security needs and to ensure settings across 5,500 desktops.
2640.11/23/2007 12:43:00 AMWe prefer in-house built solutions.
2641.11/23/2007 12:44:00 AMLow spec machines
2642.11/23/2007 12:46:00 AMWe build our own hardware, so preinstalls are irrelevant.
2643.11/23/2007 12:46:00 AMManagement choice
2644.11/23/2007 12:47:00 AMNot as efficient as building a graphical environment to your needs.
2645.11/23/2007 12:53:00 AMGenerally unnecessary.
2646.11/23/2007 12:55:00 AMWe perform custom / minimalist builds for rapid deployment and reimaging.
2647.11/23/2007 12:57:00 AMMissing application vendor support for Linux engineering applications.
2648.11/23/2007 12:58:00 AMOne size does not fit all. We prefer to install a customized Debian most places and other distributions where it makes sense. A preloaded version would never fit all our needs - we'd have to tweak it anyway so we may as well tweak our Debian image and deploy it ourselves.
2649.11/23/2007 12:59:00 AMPreferential
2650.11/23/2007 1:01:00 AMPrefer to manage installs internally
2651.11/23/2007 1:01:00 AMLack of the customised image for our organisation. It's no biggie, we just replace the pre-installed image with our own.
2652.11/23/2007 1:06:00 AMCustom installs
2653.11/23/2007 1:06:00 AMWe never use pre-installed offerings from any system for maximum control and manageability. Being in public education we have a large number of users which do not care about the technology and we must protect it from damage.
2654.11/23/2007 1:07:00 AMHave no need - do all our own development
2655.11/23/2007 1:08:00 AMAn almost infinite variety of configuration choices means they will inevitably be configured differently than we would want.
2656.11/23/2007 1:09:00 AMPrefer to customize our own installation.
2657.11/23/2007 1:11:00 AMLimited just as easy to do it yourself.
2658.11/23/2007 1:13:00 AMEhm, let's see...what do I like about Gentoo that I don't like about general Kubuntu...oh yeah: The power to Control Control the supported featues of almost each package, or have some apps compile with unstable sources, it's all up to you. Gentoo takes is quite deep. However Kubuntu pre-installs quite some apps that I don't actually use, need or want so I have to manually remove them again. That's why I like Ubuntu Alternate as well - I can just install a commandline interface on it, apt-get a list of packages to get a basic desktop with firefox and gaim, and it runs fast enough for a decent internet session
2659.11/23/2007 1:14:00 AMNo issues against, but we have no need for pre-installed systems.
2660.11/23/2007 1:18:00 AMNot customised to current working environment and standards / conventions.
2661.11/23/2007 1:22:00 AMToo limited choice. Only from mail order vendors, not in stores, not visible on Dell Canada's site.
2662.11/23/2007 1:23:00 AMI don't need them
2663.11/23/2007 1:28:00 AMapplication choice
2664.11/23/2007 1:29:00 AMUsually they don't employ the nessesary tools for running intense mathematical modelling for use in physics. Thus we need to fiddle with the setup of the machines ourselves anyway.
2665.11/23/2007 1:31:00 AMDeploying a standard linux image is simpler to support. A blank hard disk is all that is required !
2666.11/23/2007 1:32:00 AMWould be happy to use the hardware, but soe development has to be done in house for security reasons.
2667.11/23/2007 1:32:00 AMOnly that they are still hard to find and I usually get a custom DIY sort of machine. I want a laptop tho...
2668.11/23/2007 1:32:00 AMControl
2669.11/23/2007 1:33:00 AMThere are none. That previous question was badly weighted. We have neither &quot;been waiting&quot;, nor are the products &quot;insufficient&quot;, but merely it is unlikely (as the question asked) that we would for now use preinstalls. It would be something we would consider after a sizable test deployment.
2670.11/23/2007 1:49:00 AMno reason to try
2671.11/23/2007 1:49:00 AMlack of control, lack of confidence in the vendor's Linux expertise
2672.11/23/2007 1:51:00 AMI prefer to use a distribution deployed and tailored by our System Administrators
2673.11/23/2007 1:51:00 AMWe use OpenClient from IBM.
2674.11/23/2007 1:53:00 AMPrice. They never install the distro we want, so a (re)install is necessary anyway.
2675.11/23/2007 2:03:00 AMWe source desktops and notebooks without OS and install OS ourselves for less money
2676.11/23/2007 2:04:00 AMwe have a lot of internal experience loading systems
2677.11/23/2007 2:08:00 AMThey usually aren't configured according to our needs.
2678.11/23/2007 2:08:00 AMCustomization and need for security evaluation.
2679.11/23/2007 2:14:00 AMWe don't have any specific needs required because we have worked around issues except some wireless drivers, printer drivers, and CAC card support.
2680.11/23/2007 2:17:00 AMConflicts with in-house software and the distributions currently offered.
2681.11/23/2007 2:19:00 AMThe ablility to customise an install ourselves.
2682.11/23/2007 2:28:00 AMnot in house. Got or own linux image, thanks.
2683.11/23/2007 2:35:00 AMCost
2684.11/23/2007 2:39:00 AMWhy would I need it? I can install Linux on what I currently have without the necessity of upgrading my hardware.
2685.11/23/2007 2:43:00 AMNo issues; we build our own.
2686.11/23/2007 2:43:00 AMwhat?
2687.11/23/2007 2:45:00 AMPre-Installs often don't meet business needs for developers
2688.11/23/2007 2:56:00 AMFUD from Microsoft. Fear of the unknown/un supported
2689.11/23/2007 2:56:00 AMIt is more efficient to use installation mediums designed specifically for our networks.
2690.11/23/2007 2:57:00 AMPrefer own packaging and version control
2691.11/23/2007 2:57:00 AMWe deploy and manage workstation images internally. All operating systems that are pre-installed do not meet our requirements.
2692.11/23/2007 3:04:00 AMNo need. Slackware is infinitely configurable.
2693.11/23/2007 3:05:00 AMNo issues, we build and install software on all machines in house, We do this with all operating systems.
2694.11/23/2007 3:09:00 AMSuperfluous. We do not have any need for pre-installation.
2695.11/23/2007 3:09:00 AMIf by pre-installed projects you mean, for example, the Dell systems being sold with Ubuntu, we might as well just install the OS ourselves as we're technically capable and already have the hardware.
2696.11/23/2007 3:10:00 AMall linux installs are done in exactly the same way on all machines from servers to desktops
2697.11/23/2007 3:11:00 AMLocal/custom applications need for business
2698.11/23/2007 3:13:00 AMPeer acceptance
2699.11/23/2007 3:16:00 AMFreedom to choose the environment
2700.11/23/2007 3:16:00 AMI'd rather custom install to my specifications and have more control over what the end user can do and what security is on the computer.
2701.11/23/2007 3:21:00 AMNone in particular at this point aside from the fact that Linux in general needs to be more well packaged as stated in the previous comment. Once a more effective Install Manager is present on Linux Distros, particularly Unbuntu, I know I personally would migrate fully to Linux and would encourage my company to do the same (and likely they would, as that is their chief and really only, complaint, aside from their inability to access their MS Access files).
2702.11/23/2007 3:24:00 AMEven with MS Windows, we always prepare customized ghost images for our organization desktops. I do not see that this would change with Linux.
2703.11/23/2007 3:27:00 AMApplication support; specifically 4D Client (MacOS)
2704.11/23/2007 3:27:00 AMThey have 6 of everything (IM, Email client, etc.) a distro should stick to basics with the ability to download what you want if you do want to use a different app. than what was loaded on the Pre-install via a package manager like yum or apt-get.
2705.11/23/2007 3:28:00 AMSupport for Windows Based Business Apps and Lack of Technical Support Training
2706.11/23/2007 3:29:00 AMLack of information and experience.
2707.11/23/2007 3:38:00 AMNeed to customize.
2708.11/23/2007 3:39:00 AMCurrent MS licensing means that we image every desktop that comes in anyway.
2709.11/23/2007 3:41:00 AMThe bloat of the install and preferable customisability.
2710.11/23/2007 3:43:00 AMNot enough selection. We need beefier machines than the Linux selection from Dell et. al. comes in.
2711.11/23/2007 3:43:00 AMNo issues - I build my own systems.
2712.11/23/2007 3:43:00 AMDistribution and management. We also format &amp; reinstall XP to meet our needs, so this isn't a Linux issue.
2713.11/23/2007 3:48:00 AMPrefer to provide in-house support
2714.11/23/2007 3:50:00 AMNot necessary
2715.11/23/2007 3:51:00 AMThe low cost associated with assembling machines in-house and installing from our own sources. The device support in pre-installed linux offerings is a major advantage that would get us considering them, but we find the cost savings of assembling / installing in-house outweigh the benefits of purchasing pre-installed offerings.
2716.11/23/2007 3:52:00 AMWe do not deploy pre-installed products. We provide custom desktop/server builds for our environment separately. It's not an issue as much as it is a choice determined by our support structure.
2717.11/23/2007 3:52:00 AMMost pre-installed products we have evaluated tend to be more geared towards the home user, not the enterprise. Custom kick-starts suit our needs better.
2718.11/23/2007 3:54:00 AMWe have competent Linux/UNIX staff who can do a custom install just as easily.
2719.11/23/2007 3:55:00 AMDesktop management
2720.11/23/2007 3:56:00 AMnone. our organization does not use pre-installed products
2721.11/23/2007 3:58:00 AMNo issues with the products prevents us from choosing, we have technical Linux administrators that would be able to do equivalent or better job integrating systems into our environment.
2722.11/23/2007 3:58:00 AMWe are a non profit church run school. We use mainly donated equipment. As such pre installed linux is not an option for us.
2723.11/23/2007 4:05:00 AMChoice of distribution. Lack of availability in Australia. Poor vendor support (seem embarrassed to publicise their Linux offerings).
2724.11/23/2007 4:09:00 AMWe either use dumb clones with ubuntu to develop a java backend and gentoo on thin clients running c++ with qt. the client has a barcode reader and passive rfid tag readers
2725.11/23/2007 4:15:00 AMAll workstations purchased have been pre-installed with RHEL for years.
2726.11/23/2007 4:19:00 AMwe do not use pre-installed systems
2727.11/23/2007 4:32:00 AMThey contain too many useless applications
2728.11/23/2007 4:32:00 AMIt's never customized the way we need it and we only trust what we install.
2729.11/23/2007 4:43:00 AMI typically don't run Ubuntu family, RedHat/Fedora, Suse, or Mandriva, so am unlikely to find a pre-installed product that has my ideal setup. The only advantage that I would see to buying a pre-installed product is that there is a higher likelihood of having sufficiently supported hardware... something that in the last year, I have had almost no problems with.
2730.11/23/2007 4:44:00 AMour IT department insists on &quot;full support&quot;
2731.11/23/2007 4:49:00 AMNeed to fine tune installation
2732.11/23/2007 4:51:00 AMIt isn't that there is an issue with pre-installed products but more of the fact that its pre-installed Linux which is foreign to most of our users.
2733.11/23/2007 4:53:00 AMSystems are build in-house to avoid vendor lock such as Dell specific motherboards for their new cases. In another words, I don't trust computer system vendors.
2734.11/23/2007 4:54:00 AMNot customised - we prefer to deploy custom images created in-house, on a large scale.
2735.11/23/2007 4:55:00 AMBad question. I don't need or want pre-installed products.
2736.11/23/2007 4:58:00 AMIt's not that we're opposed to it. No matter what OS comes on a computer, if any, we'll wipe it and reimage the machine with one of our standard images. Because of this we're not specifically waiting for more pre-installed products.
2737.11/23/2007 4:58:00 AMThey do not use the distro of our choice.
2738.11/23/2007 5:02:00 AMno need, just image drives
2739.11/23/2007 5:06:00 AMOur organization needs to prep-deploy our desktops/notebooks in a custom install.
2740.11/23/2007 5:08:00 AMWe have too many customized requirements that pre-installed linux box cannot meet.
2741.11/23/2007 5:09:00 AMVendors choose to offer only Ubuntu for desktops. Our standard install is based on Fedora. My builds are based on Gentoo. Simply put, they do not offer a distribution we want.
2742.11/23/2007 5:18:00 AMThe base configurations assume too much. We save time doing it ourselves.
2743.11/23/2007 5:20:00 AMWe use Thin Clients
2744.11/23/2007 5:22:00 AMThe computers need to be configured to dual-boot GNU/Linux and Windows, so a Windows-license will be required anyway.
2745.11/23/2007 5:23:00 AMHaven't really looked at them.
2746.11/23/2007 5:24:00 AMWe don't need them, since computers w/o an OS will suffice, after a Linux installation.
2747.11/23/2007 5:25:00 AMNone
2748.11/23/2007 5:26:00 AMNot customized to our environment.
2749.11/23/2007 5:29:00 AMNot right distro, not custom configured, etc.
2750.11/23/2007 5:29:00 AMNone
2751.11/23/2007 5:36:00 AMWe prefer to use and support Centos or Fedora and build our own boxes. Ubuntu/Debian generally lacks some enterprise features, and more difficult to support. Running Suse would not be a good long term option for us - license issues Microsoft influence - can't trust them.
2752.11/23/2007 5:44:00 AMOur needs require a custom distribution and custom kernel modifications to match with our in house software.
2753.11/23/2007 5:54:00 AMNone, but I'm happier to install my own systems.
2754.11/23/2007 6:11:00 AMWe're not interested in using binary drivers.
2755.11/23/2007 6:13:00 AMLimited availability in Canadian market
2756.11/23/2007 6:14:00 AMNot useful
2757.11/23/2007 6:18:00 AMI don't need a pre-installed product. We are happy to install operating systems ourselves.
2758.11/23/2007 6:18:00 AMNone suit our needs. We tend to run custom software and are capable of modifying a distro like Gentoo to suit our needs much better than any pre-installed distro.
2759.11/23/2007 6:19:00 AMNIH
2760.11/23/2007 6:24:00 AMNone really, pre-installed products means everything in the box will work with the supported version of Linux. It's considered good practice to wipe everything and do an install yourself though.
2761.11/23/2007 6:29:00 AMWe'd have to customise them anyway, so might as well install our own.
2762.11/23/2007 6:32:00 AMSpecialized application availability and IT training
2763.11/23/2007 6:35:00 AMThey are pre-installed! We want to install them ourselves.
2764.11/23/2007 6:37:00 AMInstallation of locally developed and packaged software (not really solvable, we use a custom-built installation environment)
2765.11/23/2007 6:38:00 AMopen office is OK, problem is lack of engineering and manufacturing software.
2766.11/23/2007 6:42:00 AMWe prefer to run custom configured systems, tailored to our needs.
2767.11/23/2007 6:47:00 AMWe only use Gentoo, most pre-installed come with Ubuntu.
2768.11/23/2007 6:49:00 AMRequired customizations for our business precludes ever using a pre-installed product
2769.11/23/2007 6:50:00 AMPrefer to install only what we need.
2770.11/23/2007 7:03:00 AMLack of customisation
2771.11/23/2007 7:04:00 AMI like custom it myself.
2772.11/23/2007 7:06:00 AMThey won't be running what we want.
2773.11/23/2007 7:14:00 AMInhouse app support
2774.11/23/2007 7:16:00 AMI want my partions how i want them
2775.11/23/2007 7:21:00 AMown application
2776.11/23/2007 7:22:00 AMDoes not match our Preferences. Would need to invest as much time in customizing than custom installs cost (or more). Same as with Windows, pre-installed windows gets replaced with standard installs too.
2777.11/23/2007 7:29:00 AMno issues, we just roll our own. those two options are not the only possible answers to that question.
2778.11/23/2007 7:34:00 AMWe do not use preinstalled software at all
2779.11/23/2007 7:37:00 AMDoes not have our preselected packages installed. Not configured for our network.
2780.11/23/2007 7:41:00 AMThe business is concerned about the risk involved in adopting new technologies. Also, the cost of training non-technical staff is a concern.
2781.11/23/2007 7:45:00 AMThey run the wrong flavor of linux.
2782.11/23/2007 7:46:00 AMA new machine will always need to be customized for use, so default options are unlikey to be useful.
2783.11/23/2007 7:46:00 AMThe preferred distribution/version not available as a pre-installed option.
2784.11/23/2007 7:50:00 AMno need for them
2785.11/23/2007 7:52:00 AMSecurity
2786.11/23/2007 7:56:00 AMwe prefer building our own systems
2787.11/23/2007 7:57:00 AMinclusion of non-free software
2788.11/23/2007 8:06:00 AMnot needed
2789.11/23/2007 8:08:00 AMCAn't imagine that anyone could install (write personalized macro support) customized software that will meet our needs.
2790.11/23/2007 8:10:00 AMDevice driver problem
2791.11/23/2007 8:12:00 AMNot as flexible, control over distribution choices, concern about typical vendor bloatware.
2792.11/23/2007 8:14:00 AMgenerally crappy
2793.11/23/2007 8:15:00 AMJust not set-up in the way we like them - it's a personal thing, hence the use of Gentoo...
2794.11/23/2007 8:22:00 AMNone in particular - the other option (&quot;Waiting for pre-installed Linux&quot;) is just not applicable either, as we have been installing Linux ourselves without problems.
2795.11/23/2007 8:27:00 AMI'm sure they'd work fine, but they still don't have the software we'd require.
2796.11/23/2007 8:28:00 AMNontechnical users (journalists)
2797.11/23/2007 8:43:00 AMCurrently no need for pre-installed products as the Linux desktop/client users are technical staff who can manage their own installation. Lack of pre-installed high-end desktop systems would be an obstacle.
2798.11/23/2007 8:44:00 AMDon't need it; do our own installation.
2799.11/23/2007 8:51:00 AMWe prefer to configure our own machines.
2800.11/23/2007 8:53:00 AMThey are not quite what I'm after. For my needs, custom is better.
2801.11/23/2007 8:54:00 AMPeople are just used to use Windows.
2802.11/23/2007 8:59:00 AMuser resistance due to lack of training and unfamliarity. Lack of &quot;Windows Apps&quot;
2803.11/23/2007 8:59:00 AMwe are used to buy assembled hardware selected for our specific needs and we install software in ours lab to configure it as needed
2804.11/23/2007 9:02:00 AMThe only one I am aware of is Dell and hardware reliability is a major concern.
2805.11/23/2007 9:04:00 AMTo meet the needs of our users and business, any platform would require application and user-oriented GUI setup - pre-installed systems would not offer much of a time-savings. We setup a system, and distribute it's image to other machines.
2806.11/23/2007 9:09:00 AMDon't preinstall Debina/Ubuntu as we want!? Not shor...
2807.11/23/2007 9:17:00 AMWe have standard images we flash all our systems with, what comes on the machine is not important.
2808.11/23/2007 9:23:00 AMlimited hardware choice
2809.11/23/2007 9:26:00 AMProbably nothing. It's just not gonna happen here.
2810.11/23/2007 9:29:00 AMPre-installed desktops are too domain focused as a starting point for a COE.
2811.11/23/2007 9:35:00 AMCost! Being the best technical institute in the country there is a lot of technical know-how present on the campus. Hence at least installation if not customizations/tweaking of open source software wouldn't be a problem at all. IN CASE pre-installed products come at a cost, it'll deter most of the users from using it since majority of the users are either students or profs/staff running in low budgets!
2812.11/23/2007 9:40:00 AMNothing major. We recently downsized and are just redeploying existing machines when required.
2813.11/23/2007 9:40:00 AMWell, it depends. If it was a good match for the need, we might buy it. But usually we want it with a particular distribution, with a particular set of software installed. And are users are free to choose, and often have a high technical expertise - they install their own desktops and are happy like that.
2814.11/23/2007 9:48:00 AMDon't need them. We'd reinstall anyway. Just need blank PCs.
2815.11/23/2007 9:51:00 AMThey are not right configured for our spesifications
2816.11/23/2007 9:51:00 AMcustomizing more difficult than deploying in-house made ones
2817.11/23/2007 9:51:00 AMWe would prefer to install and configure our own.
2818.11/23/2007 9:58:00 AMNo issues, Linux desktop installation/support is handled in-house
2819.11/23/2007 9:59:00 AMThey do not conform to our requirements.
2820.11/23/2007 10:00:00 AMWe normally deploy our own customised desktop instead.
2821.11/23/2007 10:04:00 AMWe already have hardware and contracts, we do not wish to switch hardware suppliers, so we install linux ourselves.
2822.11/23/2007 10:04:00 AMwe want to setup our own boxen
2823.11/23/2007 10:08:00 AMPrice - we rely on discarded IT hardware for our needs.
2824.11/23/2007 10:08:00 AM- Applications are not compatible - Not good enough integrity (and cross platform support) to already existing systems - &quot;Ease of use&quot; - Support (we already have to much to do at work) i.e. need more personell, which costs money.
2825.11/23/2007 10:10:00 AMMore expensive than bare bones, not available with specific customization requirements - filesystem layouts, security etc, easier to kickstart own build
2826.11/23/2007 10:10:00 AMWe create an audited disk image and install from it.
2827.11/23/2007 10:13:00 AMThere are no major issues, but for large deployments we'd want to customise for our own requirements.
2828.11/23/2007 10:13:00 AMOne word: Ubuntu. There are better alternatives around.
2829.11/23/2007 10:20:00 AMMost users dont want it. :(
2830.11/23/2007 10:21:00 AMWe don't trust the vendor's install and bundling. We want to specify our own partitioning, formatting, layout, package selection, etc. Security dictates that we build all machines new from the ground up.
2831.11/23/2007 10:21:00 AMWrong distro
2832.11/23/2007 10:23:00 AMdo own configuration
2833.11/23/2007 10:24:00 AMPrefere to install...
2834.11/23/2007 10:27:00 AMWe install desktops ourselves. So we would not buy pre-installed. But we would buy &quot;certified for Linux&quot;, where we are sure, everything works out of the box and we know from the start which kernel version brings support for the hardware. This is very time-consuming so far.
2835.11/23/2007 10:29:00 AM1) We need dual booting with MSWindows for accounts VAT use. So we buy MS XP Pro units and add extra hard disc and dual boot.
2836.11/23/2007 10:29:00 AMNothing, we just don't need to buy them when we can put a later version of Linux on a machine we build ourselves.
2837.11/23/2007 10:34:00 AMLack of flexibility.
2838.11/23/2007 10:40:00 AMThey all have to be tailored
2839.11/23/2007 10:46:00 AMThe most of the pre-installed linux desktops are ubuntu, we want enterprise class software like RHEL, CentOS.
2840.11/23/2007 10:48:00 AMNo major issues, I just know how to set up Linux better than most of the pre-installed systems.
2841.11/23/2007 10:50:00 AMIt's not an issue, we can install ourselves.
2842.11/23/2007 10:51:00 AMDo not trust them to not include something &quot;bad&quot;.
2843.11/23/2007 10:53:00 AMdistro not to my liking, specs/hardware not to my liking
2844.11/23/2007 10:55:00 AMWe install and customize our own Linux terminals.
2845.11/23/2007 10:56:00 AMNone I can think of, Ubuntu is good. As long as there is no lock down and doesn't deviate from main version .
2846.11/23/2007 11:01:00 AMIntegration into an Active Directory Domain with similar/equivalent towards granular control to Group Policies. Having the proprietary educational softwares designed for the Windows Operating Systems migrated to Linux and traing the staff towards acceptance to a linux environment
2847.11/23/2007 11:04:00 AMLoss of control.
2848.11/23/2007 11:08:00 AMWe prefer to tailor a distro to our exact requirements
2849.11/23/2007 11:10:00 AMNothing in particular. There might be offers available which we would consider in the future. But right now, there are some tweaks to be made to run every application we need, and that is right now done with familar distributions. We hope however, that commercial products will be developed for linux, and existing product will be ported as well. With native linux support, any pre-installed machines would easily run the software we need without the use of compability software or the use of vitual machines which would make it much easier to run it on any, and including machines with pre-installed distributions.
2850.11/23/2007 11:13:00 AMLimited range of hardware
2851.11/23/2007 11:15:00 AMDifficult to customise.
2852.11/23/2007 11:22:00 AMNo trust in black boxes. Build it yourself produces a more solid result that can be supported locally.
2853.11/23/2007 11:22:00 AMNo major issues, but I like to decide partitioning and programs to have on the system.
2854.11/23/2007 11:25:00 AMNone in particular
2855.11/23/2007 11:28:00 AMThey're Linux. Linux is unsuitable for our non-technical users' desktops (we're going with OS X) and our technical users prefer to install and configure the OS themselves.
2856.11/23/2007 11:30:00 AMNot userfriendly OS. Too many pre-installed applications. Not-free drivers included. Not-free software included. GPL.
2857.11/23/2007 11:35:00 AMLinux does not support our system development.
2858.11/23/2007 11:38:00 AMi preffer to install myself
2859.11/23/2007 11:40:00 AMI would like to be in control of what packages is installed
2860.11/23/2007 11:41:00 AMCompany IT policy is to standardise on MS Windows
2861.11/23/2007 11:42:00 AMWe like full control, and like to install our own modifications of a Linux distro.
2862.11/23/2007 11:43:00 AMNot flexible enough. Our enterprise environment needs full control of both installation and daily use.
2863.11/23/2007 11:46:00 AMI inevitably trash it and install something to my own liking
2864.11/23/2007 11:46:00 AMGenerally reserved to more expensive hardware by suppliers even though less expensive hardware runs Linux with no problems at all.
2865.11/23/2007 11:46:00 AMNone, but I prefer to roll own images
2866.11/23/2007 11:47:00 AMDo not require pre-installation as long as driver support is present/available at installation time.
2867.11/23/2007 11:48:00 AMFreedom to configure and tune ourselves from scratch.
2868.11/23/2007 11:50:00 AMNormally if someone is using linux he/she favours some distro or just some packaging system (debs, rpms or builds from source, like gentoo), so preinstalling someone with a given distro (probabely Ubuntu) doesn't work for that person.
2869.11/23/2007 11:50:00 AMNot meeting our requirements
2870.11/23/2007 11:52:00 AMFlexibility. We're fine building and configuring our own desktops, and prefer to do so - which is why we use Gentoo.
2871.11/23/2007 11:56:00 AMLack of control.
2872.11/23/2007 12:02:00 PMWe need to install extra (non-free) sofware anyways where Linux needs to be altered anyways.
2873.11/23/2007 12:05:00 PMBad question - we're a Financial services company with an engineering department perfectly capable of rolling our own with or without the help of our chosen vendor
2874.11/23/2007 12:07:00 PMN/A
2875.11/23/2007 12:07:00 PMDon't know.
2876.11/23/2007 12:12:00 PMversions/configurations inconsistent with installed base of Linux systems.
2877.11/23/2007 12:18:00 PMNo need. I start with bare machine and install the OS myself.
2878.11/23/2007 12:19:00 PMWe have an in-house maintained distro (Linux@Duke) that works just fine
2879.11/23/2007 12:22:00 PMNot available in Denmark
2880.11/23/2007 12:22:00 PMLinux installation was always custom
2881.11/23/2007 12:32:00 PMknolege
2882.11/23/2007 12:39:00 PMUsers are unwilling to try anything other than Windows platforms.
2883.11/23/2007 12:39:00 PMThey are not running Windows
2884.11/23/2007 12:39:00 PMControl - we have the in-house expertise to set-up systems as we like and need them, and that's easier and quicker than customising a pre-installed OS.
2885.11/23/2007 12:40:00 PMNo flexibility
2886.11/23/2007 12:42:00 PMMore flexibility and customisation available if we install outself.
2887.11/23/2007 12:44:00 PMPrefer custom setups
2888.11/23/2007 12:46:00 PMnone - we have an inhouse linux sysadmin. pre-installation is irrelevant as we can install ourselves and would prefer the control
2889.11/23/2007 12:59:00 PMMigration cost
2890.11/23/2007 1:10:00 PMadaptation
2891.11/23/2007 1:11:00 PMWe are technical users who want to configure systems for ourselves
2892.11/23/2007 1:12:00 PMThe question was simply faulty
2893.11/23/2007 1:14:00 PMNot configured to our requirements
2894.11/23/2007 1:18:00 PMLack of choice and hardware configuration. Also some preconfigured systems come with their own poorly documented &quot;hacks&quot; to get some pices of hardware working.
2895.11/23/2007 1:20:00 PMNone - rather, company policy allows developers to install their own distributions.
2896.11/23/2007 1:20:00 PMDo our own installations
2897.11/23/2007 1:21:00 PMNo issues, just long-term unix experience inside our organization that makes pre-installed Linux unnecessary and not configured to match our environment.
2898.11/23/2007 1:23:00 PMI always prefer to customize my own stuff.
2899.11/23/2007 1:27:00 PMI would rather have a no-OS computer and then install my own OS.
2900.11/23/2007 1:28:00 PMUsually, they include too much unneeded software, and in order to get rid of that, its easier to reinstall. Also, I prefer other distros than Suse, Linspire, Mandrake or Ubuntu.
2901.11/23/2007 1:39:00 PMApplication support/ Active Directory support
2902.11/23/2007 1:40:00 PMWe would prefer to roll our own Debian based desktops managed with preseeding and Fully Automated Installs therefore any pre-installed operating system is of no use to us.
2903.11/23/2007 1:40:00 PMthe major issue would be cost, since we already have quite a big machine park, alltho somewhat aging. For us its more important to finetune an installation to fit on existing hardware, than purchase new.
2904.11/23/2007 1:43:00 PMWe will install our own Linux-based operating system.
2905.11/23/2007 1:43:00 PMWe install our own Ubuntu-based operating system.
2906.11/23/2007 1:45:00 PMCompanys intigrate aftermarkets in the OS
2907.11/23/2007 1:46:00 PMn/a
2908.11/23/2007 1:51:00 PMAvailability of products in my country Lack of expert support from potential vendors
2909.11/23/2007 1:54:00 PMNever quite configured correctly. Better to install Ubuntu from scratch and get a known starting point.
2910.11/23/2007 2:00:00 PMno need
2911.11/23/2007 2:03:00 PMlax hardware
2912.11/23/2007 2:09:00 PMWe have long-used DNUK (more than 4 years) who do provide pre-installed Linux
2913.11/23/2007 2:09:00 PMInternal standard build, pre-install doesn't cut it.
2914.11/23/2007 2:17:00 PMWe want to use Debian.
2915.11/23/2007 2:17:00 PMNot an issue, since I enjoy using Linux desktop systems and distributions.
2916.11/23/2007 2:20:00 PMLack of flexibility
2917.11/23/2007 2:20:00 PMour own build/install is under our control
2918.11/23/2007 2:21:00 PMnot required
2919.11/23/2007 2:22:00 PMNot the products themselves, but the users are not familiar with linux.
2920.11/23/2007 2:22:00 PMWe like to customise our installations so we would probably end-up re-installing anyway. That was what we found when we did once buy a workstation with SUSE pre-installed
2921.11/23/2007 2:22:00 PMWe have not been waiting for pre-installed products.
2922.11/23/2007 2:23:00 PMAs ISVs, we need to build our own platform from scratch every time.
2923.11/23/2007 2:24:00 PMCustomization
2924.11/23/2007 2:31:00 PMThey are pre-installed.
2925.11/23/2007 2:33:00 PMThey are UBUNTU or SUSE. Not acceptable.
2926.11/23/2007 2:33:00 PMWe can not allow any third-party configurations (e.g. encryption from the beginning) and even if we would allow this kind delivery, the pre-installed products seem to be targeted to consumer markets, not high-end developer desktops, let alone servers.
2927.11/23/2007 2:35:00 PMOur requirements are very specific in terms of software - If we have to customize the installed packages we may as well install the OS and customize during the install.
2928.11/23/2007 2:38:00 PM?
2929.11/23/2007 2:39:00 PMI didn't install them