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What are the major issues with these pre-installed products that would prevent you from choosing one?
#Response DateResponse Text
1.10/17/2007 1:43:00 AMWould rather install ourselves.
2.10/17/2007 1:44:00 AMWe install our own systems
3.10/17/2007 2:10:00 AMOffice suite and calendar applications.
4.10/17/2007 2:15:00 AMubuntu ? no thanks ! Y it is popular is beyond me, Mepis, Xandros, pclinuxos, mint are all BETTER ! many times I installed Ubuntu and forced myself to use it for a week, thinking it must be me as everyone else seems to think it is great.... thanks but no thanks
5.10/17/2007 2:33:00 AMWe prefer to deploy our own systems; pre-installed Linux purchases would only be an option to avoid paying for Windows, which would be overwritten immediately.
6.10/17/2007 2:35:00 AMCost of new equipment. We prefer thin client technology which is much more affordable with LTSP. We are also interested in multi-seat X. Groovix and others pre-install that but it is still too expensive compared to thin clients. We build our own multi-seat machines.
7.10/17/2007 3:59:00 AMwe have the required number of desktops so we dont need to purchase new desktops pre-installed by linux.
8.10/17/2007 4:07:00 AMMy distribution isn't pre-installed on a wide-enough variety of hardware.
9.10/17/2007 4:12:00 AMEnd-user training
10.10/17/2007 4:14:00 AMI would buy a laptop with linux pre-installed and will soon be looking for one.
11.10/17/2007 4:37:00 AMYou are determined to use this distribution.
12.10/17/2007 5:04:00 AMIt is more cost effective to assemble our own workstations which provide better reliability, performance and compaibility.
13.10/17/2007 5:35:00 AMMy prefered linux distro does not come preinstalled &amp; I prefer to set up on my own anyway.
14.10/17/2007 5:47:00 AMNot ideal settings for our use.
15.10/17/2007 6:09:00 AMHardware options
16.10/17/2007 6:09:00 AMnone
17.10/17/2007 6:10:00 AMWe install our own site tailored images
18.10/17/2007 6:11:00 AMI prefer to do a straight install from a clean ISO and build it myself.
19.10/17/2007 6:16:00 AMwe run a quite specific setup (application deployment, nfs mounts) so all linux workstations need to be configured manually
20.10/17/2007 6:19:00 AMNone. The reason why we choose not to deploy pre-installed products are because we prefer to have our own installation of choice.
21.10/17/2007 6:33:00 AMGetting tied up with some particular vendor
22.10/17/2007 6:38:00 AMI already have Linux-ready hardware, so I'll install it myself.
23.10/17/2007 6:46:00 AMInstallion is simply not a big issue for desktops. However notebooks may be a different story
24.10/17/2007 6:47:00 AMCentral user management is not deployed.
25.10/17/2007 6:57:00 AMprefer to maintain control over the hardware
26.10/17/2007 6:58:00 AMSupport
27.10/17/2007 7:19:00 AMFor in is just matter of politics
28.10/17/2007 7:23:00 AMSecurity
29.10/17/2007 7:26:00 AMDon't need them, perfectly happy to install &amp; customise &quot;off-the-shelf&quot; Fedora, Ubuntu etc.
30.10/17/2007 7:37:00 AMRange of support for installed applications. Customization to better suit company requirements and to address third party tools (MS Exchange, etc.) compatibility.
31.10/17/2007 7:41:00 AMNone,
32.10/17/2007 7:49:00 AMDon't fit the organizations application and security requirements.
33.10/17/2007 8:29:00 AMWe use thin clients (LTSP) and run full Linux distro on the application server only. PXE/Etherboot support is fine for clients.
34.10/17/2007 8:32:00 AMNo need now.
35.10/17/2007 8:32:00 AMWe want full control and integration with our own systems for home directories and authentication. It's easier to configure stuff from scratch ourselves than to verify and check someone else's configuration.
36.10/17/2007 8:35:00 AMwhat is it good for? losing competencies?
37.10/17/2007 8:43:00 AMrather roll out a custom distro with all applications required and settings allready there, using a ghost like system, as in autoyast or a debian net install.
38.10/17/2007 8:58:00 AMOur firm has an extensive IT. Creating the image that is used by all the machines is trivial compared to the work in porting the custom software.
39.10/17/2007 9:05:00 AMjust laptop's with ubuntu
40.10/17/2007 9:13:00 AMThey cannot run well on any laptop/desktop. Desktops/laptops does not come out with any distro pre-installed (just beginning, few choices)
41.10/17/2007 9:18:00 AMWe like todo our own customized installation
42.10/17/2007 9:24:00 AMlimited choice for distribution, limited choice of hardware
43.10/17/2007 9:51:00 AMThe fact that they are pre-installed.
44.10/17/2007 9:54:00 AMLack of technical support.
45.10/17/2007 9:54:00 AMIt's not the product itself, it's the hurdle of adding support for a new OS that it implies.
46.10/17/2007 9:55:00 AMWe have a limited deployment, and DVD/CD distributions suit our needs just fine.
47.10/17/2007 10:12:00 AMWe already have a defined installation process. We would have to modify the installation anyway.
48.10/17/2007 10:32:00 AMWe customize our installations with the packages we need. It is just as easy to load from scratch as it is to reconfigure someone elses package.
49.10/17/2007 10:33:00 AMSecurity and unballanced application selection
50.10/17/2007 10:37:00 AMThere are not applications suitable for my company, but then mostly front end tools. Most of the critical applications are running on *nix systems, bu since they are so specific for our organization there are no front end tools available - speaking of open source.
51.10/17/2007 10:53:00 AMThere is no pre-installed Debian with hardware-developping tools.
52.10/17/2007 10:53:00 AMNone. Point it it would mean getting new machines and since everybody owns their own computer that wouldn't work.
53.10/17/2007 10:56:00 AMour users/emplyees like to have fully customized environment and free of choice of linux distribution
54.10/17/2007 11:17:00 AMEstablished procedures - we also install Windows from scratch.
55.10/17/2007 11:19:00 AMWe prefer to install our computers from scratch with the same OS (Ubuntu).
56.10/17/2007 11:31:00 AMI Like to do it myself, That way we have just wat we want/need on the system. Also there is a lot more freedom this way
57.10/17/2007 11:32:00 AMWe fit our system to our higly specific need and therefore rely on easy, deep configuration from hand.
58.10/17/2007 11:33:00 AMNot the right applications.
59.10/17/2007 11:34:00 AMchoice of distribution
60.10/17/2007 11:44:00 AMI want the flexibility to pick and choose
61.10/17/2007 11:46:00 AMdo not meet our configuration needs
62.10/17/2007 12:02:00 PMCurrent vendor does not offer this on the desktop.
63.10/17/2007 12:19:00 PMThere are not really any, just would like to do it myself.
64.10/17/2007 12:19:00 PMPoor quality of desktop software
65.10/17/2007 12:39:00 PMSome of our vendors will not support there products using these pre-installed distributions.
66.10/17/2007 12:42:00 PMWell, we like custom things
67.10/17/2007 12:42:00 PMi.t. management
68.10/17/2007 12:51:00 PMdistro customisation
69.10/17/2007 12:54:00 PMthis is not the fact. we already own too much PCs so we aren't going to upgrade them soon
70.10/17/2007 12:58:00 PM1) not guaranteed peripheral devices support
71.10/17/2007 1:05:00 PMMy current work project requires that I run Office 2007. Powerpoint 2007 has numerous layout effects improvements that make it possible to create extremely good-looking final content products.
72.10/17/2007 1:06:00 PMlack of trainingfor the staff Technical support
73.10/17/2007 1:10:00 PMOMB mandate for encrypted disk systems (ie, SafeBoot) means we'd have to wipe and reinstall anyway. Coming OMB mandates for 2-factor authentication are also problematic for Linux desktops right now.
74.10/17/2007 1:44:00 PMLocked down or not configurable
75.10/17/2007 1:50:00 PMThey don't meet our hardware requirements. We build our own machines, so pre-installed anything is out of the question.
76.10/17/2007 1:54:00 PMI don't care for the distribution that most vendors offer (Ubuntu)
77.10/17/2007 1:56:00 PMWe customize what we use to our needs; if we were to use a pre-installed product we'd just wipe it and re-image it anyway. That said, it would be nice to have hardware already validated for Linux use.
78.10/17/2007 1:57:00 PMDesktop Linux is not being offered on business class models from vendors.
79.10/17/2007 2:01:00 PMI want to install everything by myself. I know better what I need. It sounds like madness -- yes?
80.10/17/2007 2:07:00 PMnone
81.10/17/2007 2:07:00 PMNone
82.10/17/2007 2:09:00 PMIssues? What are the advantages?
83.10/17/2007 2:13:00 PMIncorrect hardware specifications available.
84.10/17/2007 2:18:00 PMmissing features
85.10/17/2007 2:19:00 PMNot customizable / flexible enough, Preferred linux distribution not available from vendor
86.10/17/2007 2:22:00 PMThe distribution choice.
87.10/17/2007 2:22:00 PMThey are not available in Chile and they are restricted just a set of models.
88.10/17/2007 2:24:00 PMWe use a standard Kubuntu configuration for our desktop systems and we prefer to build those systems ourselves.
89.10/17/2007 2:26:00 PMLack of driver support for GPIB cards
90.10/17/2007 2:27:00 PMIntegration in to the Enterprise and security issues.
91.10/17/2007 2:37:00 PMWe are stuck in Windows territory
92.10/17/2007 2:41:00 PMwe never use preinstalled software
93.10/17/2007 3:06:00 PMdon't care for the mix of bloatware that is attached to most pre-configured installations
94.10/17/2007 3:15:00 PMThey are missing most of the packages crucial for our organization, it is easier to install everything by ourselves than to adjust the store-bought linux-box to our needs.
95.10/17/2007 3:19:00 PMnone
96.10/17/2007 3:21:00 PMAvailable on select hardware only.
97.10/17/2007 3:21:00 PMNeed too much customization when they arrive
98.10/17/2007 3:21:00 PMCost of for-pay products, or lack of selection among free products.
99.10/17/2007 3:27:00 PMMissing Educational Software. Most Edu Software is released only f&#252;r Windows.
100.10/17/2007 3:27:00 PMThe question does not apply. We already buy pre-installed linux systems, although usually we reformat and re-install after confirming that the system is functional
101.10/17/2007 3:30:00 PMAcceptance and promotion by the Ohio Educational Technology Department.
102.10/17/2007 3:35:00 PMwe re-image all servers and workstations to local standards
103.10/17/2007 3:40:00 PMPre-installed linux not a factor in our decision.
104.10/17/2007 3:40:00 PMI am no use any of them, so I no not now.
105.10/17/2007 3:42:00 PMuse of our enterprise software not available on Linux.
106.10/17/2007 3:43:00 PMLack of preferred distribution choice (i.e. Ubuntu is not a distribution we are looking to use).
107.10/17/2007 3:45:00 PMMissing support for specific distribution
108.10/17/2007 3:46:00 PMOwn packaged version of development tools (tomcat, eclipse etc.)
109.10/17/2007 3:46:00 PMUn-necessary
110.10/17/2007 3:47:00 PMWrong distro.
111.10/17/2007 3:48:00 PMEnough in-house knowledge to roll-out a standardized Kubuntu desktop for all users on any hardware present
112.10/17/2007 3:48:00 PMLimited choice of Linux distributions (i.e. Dell/Ubuntu)
113.10/17/2007 3:49:00 PMLacking of (almost) perfect compatibility with those binary format used by Microsoft Office for everything.
114.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMWe use Fedora, CentOS and Gentoo. Also, we prefer installing the OS by our self.
115.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMcost
116.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMLocal customisation of linux distros
117.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMWe would rather install and configure our machines ourselves.
118.10/17/2007 3:50:00 PMMost ar GNOME-based
119.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMLack of control
120.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMThese products could never reflect our company structure. It is easier for us, to have an Image that we deploy to our clients...
121.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMThere are a lot of computers still up to date but installed windows. We don't need to throw them away to buy new pre-installed computers. And sometime, some tools have to be run under windows like arm tools.
122.10/17/2007 3:51:00 PMI want to control the setup completely
123.10/17/2007 3:52:00 PMWe cannot trust them, and they are low quality, anyway.
124.10/17/2007 3:52:00 PMWe require a customized desktop environment that can be centrally managed.
125.10/17/2007 3:53:00 PMMainly, we need specific versions of Linux on our development systems, to mimic our final products. Also, our development machines have, in the past, been cheap &quot;black box&quot; systems. If, however, we ever managed to convince our IT department to use Linux for our standard desktop compute server then I think we'd definitely be interested in a pre-installed version; probably Ubuntu for ease of maintenance and reliable updates.
126.10/17/2007 3:54:00 PMUnavailability of certain models.
127.10/17/2007 3:54:00 PMLinux Distribution Type Manufacturer
128.10/17/2007 3:56:00 PMWe don't like pre-installed software
129.10/17/2007 3:59:00 PMNo pre-installed dual boot options. We install dual boot disk images.
130.10/17/2007 4:02:00 PMadjusting of pre-installed products to personal needs does not save time over doing a clean installation
131.10/17/2007 4:02:00 PMIT management prefers to customize installations from scratch.
132.10/17/2007 4:06:00 PMOur major issue is business critical application availability: - Adobe products - Outlook ... or similiar Having pre-installed machines doesn't help with that.
133.10/17/2007 4:09:00 PMsome special requirements wouldn't be met
134.10/17/2007 4:11:00 PMJust not what we do.
135.10/17/2007 4:12:00 PMNot customized to our environment. Easier if we just build it ourselves.
136.10/17/2007 4:14:00 PMagain: &quot;that depends&quot; There should be a third possibility besides &quot;Yes, we will&quot; and &quot;No, we will not&quot;: &quot;Maybe we will - depending on the situation.&quot;
137.10/17/2007 4:16:00 PMPersonal Use I would definitely use one of these. Our business (government) does not deploy Linux on the desktop. We would need to develop a Linux strategy before moving forward.
138.10/17/2007 4:17:00 PMWe need up-to-date systems (latest kernels in particular). Latest Fedora provides that, but Ubuntu is behind.
139.10/17/2007 4:19:00 PMwe build our own workstations
140.10/17/2007 4:24:00 PMWe prefer KDE based desktops and our best choice is a modified Kubuntu at this time.
141.10/17/2007 4:25:00 PMnone
142.10/17/2007 4:26:00 PMWe need CAD applications that are not yet available on Linux. Other than that, either one of the pre-installed options would do fine.
143.10/17/2007 4:27:00 PMVery limited choice of providers of preinstalled Linux desktop workstations. Ideally not-for-profit or charitable distributors would be chosen as suppliers. Generally, the cost of the machines still does not reflect the value of the product.
144.10/17/2007 4:28:00 PM* security concerns * useless auditing time * automatic install with debian installer easy and quick
145.10/17/2007 4:28:00 PMNot the distribution that already runs on the other systems.
146.10/17/2007 4:30:00 PMWe prefer to personally install the OS.
147.10/17/2007 4:32:00 PMDistribution choice. Our organization would like to standardize on a single distribution for easier system administration. Currently, we use Red Hat Enterprise on our servers, so we use Fedora for our desktops. We would need that available to purchase. Secondarily, hardware choice. When last investigated, there was a price premium and/or limited hardware available for pre-installed Linux. We just bought stuff we knew would be compatible and installed it ourselves for a high price discount.
148.10/17/2007 4:31:00 PMThe hardware choice available with pre-installed Linux is still too restricted (for desktop use).
149.10/17/2007 4:33:00 PMavailability on selected type of hardware
150.10/17/2007 4:33:00 PMLack of diversity. There are so few of them to choose from, which makes it difficult to find the optimal solution with the right price/performance.
151.10/17/2007 4:34:00 PMI don't know
152.10/17/2007 4:36:00 PMWe're using a heavily customized desktop and server image anway, same holds for our embedded Linux images.
153.10/17/2007 4:39:00 PMNot required.
154.10/17/2007 4:41:00 PMWe have our own Linux environment which differs from any vendor-supplied one. For example, we run AFS, use a custom version of Kerberos, have a different packaging system and a different host installation system
155.10/17/2007 4:43:00 PMLack of company-specific apps. We reimage everything when it comes in the door, even Windows.
156.10/17/2007 4:46:00 PMWe use PING (PartImage Not Ghost) and RIS to wipe and redeploy XP on all our Windows PCs. We will not use preonfigured systems, no matter which OS or distribution is chosen.
157.10/17/2007 4:49:00 PMA possibility to make the installation our way
158.10/17/2007 4:50:00 PMThe fact that most of them are INTEL powered. We DO NOT use Intel powered computers. We build our own on premises from scratch all AMD powered. If we have to buy a notebook, its a AMD powered model. We were hoping to buy DELL notebooks with Ubuntu, but most of them are Intel powered so we didn't.
159.10/17/2007 4:50:00 PMOur customers want Windows.
160.10/17/2007 4:52:00 PMNo issues, it's just that we already have competent systems people who can configure standard boxen with Linux, and have been doing so for a number of years. So pre-installed Linux would be somewhat convenient, perhaps, but not make a huge difference to us.
161.10/17/2007 4:54:00 PMWe are capable of doing the install; Don't like Ubuntu.
162.10/17/2007 4:57:00 PMOur major applications do not work with linux.
163.10/17/2007 4:57:00 PMthey are usually kitchen sink installs. It is too much work to trim the install to our requirements.
164.10/17/2007 4:58:00 PMWe've not been waiting for pre-installation so it has not been an obstacle
165.10/17/2007 4:59:00 PMDistribution choice and the tendency for vendors to use non-standard configurations (e.g. debian systems should be amended with apt, not by stuffing files in /opt.)
166.10/17/2007 5:03:00 PMI haven't seen anyone pre-install our preferred distro; Fedora. And considering that we can take a machine from &quot;bare metal&quot; to &quot;installed&quot; in under half an hour, I'm not terribly concerned with having to order machines pre-installed; I'd spend at least that much time un-doing various things that had been pre-installed for us. To help with our own internal roll-outs, we created an RPM meta-package which simply contained dependencies for everything we knew we wanted to have on the systems. We'd do a basic/minimal install onto the machine and then install our meta-package. Yum would then pull in everything else we wanted onto the machine.
167.10/17/2007 5:04:00 PMWe are a Microsoft workshop for the most part of our IT infrastructure
168.10/17/2007 5:05:00 PMWe can choose only what we need, pre-installed systems are sometimes wasting CPU time or disk space with applications which are useless for us.
169.10/17/2007 5:07:00 PMLack of extra software, linux-from-a-box comes with a simple kernel and a &lt;u&gt;few&lt;/u&gt; applications... desktop users need everything like windows bundles their software, dell should auto-apt-get a lot of extra free things before it sells the operating system... so as to not embarrass itself.
170.10/17/2007 5:10:00 PMYou can buy a better cheaper windows intalled machine from Dell then an Ubuntu pre-installed machine from Dell and just install your own OS.
171.10/17/2007 5:10:00 PMConservatism on the part of tech support and users. Unwillingness to move away from MS sofware
172.10/17/2007 5:11:00 PMdon't need them.what we have is more than able to handle what we need.
173.10/17/2007 5:14:00 PMI just don't see the need. I'm happy to do the install, and by doing so, I am able to customize what I install.
174.10/17/2007 5:15:00 PMPersonal preferences are too different and
175.10/17/2007 5:15:00 PMThe pre-installed systems do not come configured with our private packages, so we have to reinstall the systems anyway. Therefore, pre-installed systems are of no value to us.
176.10/17/2007 5:15:00 PMprefer to install in the company
177.10/17/2007 5:16:00 PMThe hardware choices made by the manufacturers are token at best and insulting to most experienced Linux users
178.10/17/2007 5:16:00 PMSupport is not inviable from Vendor.Most of the so-called vendor do not recommend Linux.There is a inertia to give option.
179.10/17/2007 5:16:00 PMThe choices are often limited and we would end up wiping the drive on any computers we receive to install our own build. Therefore pre-installation has little bearing on our usage of GNU/Linux.
180.10/17/2007 5:19:00 PMNot using the Linux distribution that I trust and use.. that being Mandriva.
181.10/17/2007 5:19:00 PMWe roll out custom installations with additional applications and security changes.
182.10/17/2007 5:20:00 PMAs all enterprises we would not use an OEM provided image so this was irrelevant though support was a nice bonus.
183.10/17/2007 5:21:00 PMNot the preferred distro
184.10/17/2007 5:25:00 PMWe need to do bulk imaging anyway.
185.10/17/2007 5:28:00 PMToo many windows only applications in use
186.10/17/2007 5:29:00 PMWe need many Linux distibutions for our products testing. Will vendors install different Linux on different computers?
187.10/17/2007 5:30:00 PMDon't need pre-installation
188.10/17/2007 5:30:00 PMConfiguration and unity.
189.10/17/2007 5:33:00 PMWould like to be able to easily do custom image install.
190.10/17/2007 5:33:00 PMToo expensive. Cheaper to buy other PCs, but don't want to pay MS Tax.
191.10/17/2007 5:34:00 PMcustomizability
192.10/17/2007 5:37:00 PMWe do the desktop building ourselves. Even if the laptops come with some version of windows, we generally install it fresh.
193.10/17/2007 5:37:00 PMWe have no issues with them, but we have no need for them. We install our own distribution and control it completely.
194.10/17/2007 5:38:00 PMnone, not a r
195.10/17/2007 5:39:00 PMI would like to choose the packages at the install
196.10/17/2007 5:41:00 PMmost apps we use must be configured by hand. so pre installed software does us no good
197.10/17/2007 5:43:00 PMNot the same distro/setup as the existing Linux systems.
198.10/17/2007 5:43:00 PMSo far, the distribution we use isn't offered.
199.10/17/2007 5:44:00 PMIt would be like Gentoo.
200.10/17/2007 5:44:00 PMComplexity Too much installed applications
201.10/17/2007 5:44:00 PMIn general, 'nothing'. There isn't really a requirement for pre-installed products, although we might use them. One issue may be the required design/support issue w.r.t. different package management tools and/or file/directory locations (ie. LSB).
202.10/17/2007 5:46:00 PMwe would like to install system ourselves.
203.10/17/2007 5:47:00 PMCan't run Windows programs.
204.10/17/2007 5:51:00 PMNot an issue of personal choice; educational - research facilities entangled with Microsoft would require after sales support and end-user education services on a par with those offered by MS Academic Alliance
205.10/17/2007 5:51:00 PMWe dont want ANY preinstalled machines. We reinstall everything.
206.10/17/2007 5:54:00 PMNot tailor made to our needs, prefer to install ourselves
207.10/17/2007 5:57:00 PMI assemble my own machines, why bother with a machine that has components of lesser quality?
208.10/17/2007 5:59:00 PMnot integrated into &quot;our&quot; IT infrastructure
209.10/17/2007 6:00:00 PMGNU/Linux distribution that is pre-installed.
210.10/17/2007 6:00:00 PMToo easy to install existing distribution.
211.10/17/2007 6:00:00 PMThey do not have the ease of use, fit and finish or compatibility of other offerings such as Mac OS X 10.4 or the soon to be released 10.5. There is no established standard around a modus operandi. If the Linux guys standardized on, say, Ubuntu or Debian, chances are businesses would abandon Windows, and especially Windows Vista, which by all accounts is a disaster. Good luck, guys!
212.10/17/2007 6:01:00 PMCustomization of programdistribution
213.10/17/2007 6:01:00 PMSoftware compatibility / performance issues
214.10/17/2007 6:05:00 PMJust not needed - prefer to control what is installed and where.
215.10/17/2007 6:06:00 PMTend to build our own hardware
216.10/17/2007 6:07:00 PMNo real issues, but plain off-the-shelf parts often work just as well.
217.10/17/2007 6:07:00 PMN/A
218.10/17/2007 6:09:00 PMWe have standardized on Mandriva Linux for desktops, and nobody offers this pre-installed that I am aware of. I have no desire to start mixing distributions.
219.10/17/2007 6:09:00 PMI think it's mostly inertia--existing policies and procedures are in place for Microsoft products and services.
220.10/17/2007 6:10:00 PMWe always re-install all machines we use no matter what the os is.
221.10/17/2007 6:10:00 PMIt's not the distro we would run in production
222.10/17/2007 6:12:00 PMSoftware choice: it's allways easier to install whatever needed only then to install whatever needed AND uninstall the rest of applications.
223.10/17/2007 6:12:00 PMWanting to install a 'vanilla' OS (without vendor-specific stuff).
224.10/17/2007 6:13:00 PMStill there are issues with deifferent linux machines, the lacking support from hardware vendors are the major problem. How well does the pre installed Linux machines work? Does everything work? Which models are offered and can I use my bluetooth devices with them? Linux is getting better, but it's not there.
225.10/17/2007 6:14:00 PMLack of customisation.
226.10/17/2007 6:14:00 PMonly base system
227.10/17/2007 6:15:00 PMavailability of software required for our needs.
228.10/17/2007 6:17:00 PMWe need our own prototyped Images
229.10/17/2007 6:16:00 PMLack of flexibility in hardware configuration
230.10/17/2007 6:18:00 PMNeed so many modifications, tuning, costumizations, etc that our own installations fit much better.
231.10/17/2007 6:18:00 PMmissing device drivers
232.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMNo need for them -- fully competent to do installation in-house.
233.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMOur requirements are not so high, we simply don't need.
234.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMOur staff has the technical knowledge to deploy Linux without needing it pre-installed.
235.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMIt is not necessary as existing vendors suffice all our mets; we already using Linux on desktops in many areas (in case we have enough software to do).
236.10/17/2007 6:19:00 PMTakes longer to configure and get &quot;everything right&quot; than to install everything from scratch by yourself.
237.10/17/2007 6:20:00 PMWe need to apply our own security configuration.
238.10/17/2007 6:20:00 PMWe already use linux, and can customize it precisely to our needs. We may buy the hardware, but we know what we want in the software part and can take care of that.
239.10/17/2007 6:20:00 PMthat they are preinstalled
240.10/17/2007 6:21:00 PMno an issue
241.10/17/2007 6:21:00 PMNot enough distribution choice
242.10/17/2007 6:21:00 PMOptions and customization.
243.10/17/2007 6:22:00 PMI dont know what they are
244.10/17/2007 6:22:00 PMI trust ourselves better, pre-installed systems do not reflex exactly our needs.
245.10/17/2007 6:23:00 PMNone.
246.10/17/2007 6:24:00 PMnothing
247.10/17/2007 6:24:00 PMWrong configuration
248.10/17/2007 6:25:00 PMAlready described earlier -- Linux is mostly a server side tool for us, there isn't a compelling reason to push it to desktop users.
249.10/17/2007 6:26:00 PMI don't want a pre-install. I'm just going to wipe the hard drive and install a custom image anyway.
250.10/17/2007 6:26:00 PMMissing DirectX, hard to test DirectX applications then...
251.10/17/2007 6:32:00 PMDom anst&#228;llda har ingen kunskap om linux som &#228;r ganska sv&#229;ranv&#228;nda
252.10/17/2007 6:34:00 PMProduct does not meet current needs.
253.10/17/2007 6:35:00 PMNavision / Microsoft Dynamics NAV Visual Studio
254.10/17/2007 6:35:00 PMThere are no issues - our technical staff can handle installations.
255.10/17/2007 6:36:00 PMIt's not the pre-installed apps/prods that's the problem per se it's the fact that there is no well working subst for Outlook ... well the whole MS office suite.
256.10/17/2007 6:38:00 PMWindows application support
257.10/17/2007 6:39:00 PMDoesn't contain the products we need.
258.10/17/2007 6:39:00 PMWe need to build custom installs for security and group access etc.
259.10/17/2007 6:41:00 PMThe preinstalled Linux distributions.
260.10/17/2007 6:41:00 PMIt is too much to have to support two differnet OS for our organization.
261.10/17/2007 6:42:00 PMnot offered by our vendors
262.10/17/2007 6:44:00 PMNot part of the OEMs &quot;business&quot; lines, long imagesupport and so on.
263.10/17/2007 6:45:00 PMDoes not work with all software
264.10/17/2007 6:46:00 PMToo old software when hw comes to customer, wrong ditribution
265.10/17/2007 6:49:00 PMwe reimage most machines before using them anyway, so pre-installed OS is not relevant; OTOH, one advantage of a preinstalled system would be a guarantee that all hardware is compatible and can function with linux. But not enough of a big deal in the big picture
266.10/17/2007 6:50:00 PMStill hard to use, for example settings up something eqvivlent to Active directory.
267.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMLack of vendor's support, poor software integration with current software in use.
268.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMWe don't care about pre-installed desktops but pre-installed is an indicator of availability of drivers. Right now we deploy our own Windows or Linux flavor on all systems regardless of what the vendor pre-installed. We don't want pre-installed hardware we want hardware it's easy to install our generic system version on.
269.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMManagement resistance due to perceived issues with Linux.
270.10/17/2007 6:51:00 PMWe can imagine using Linux on PC used in warehouses where php applications are needed only. But this is minor number of computers which may increase our cost on IT staff.
271.10/17/2007 6:53:00 PMRequired software for daily production is only available in Windows.
272.10/17/2007 6:54:00 PMTo dumb. We have free DBs, why not use a good RDDBM on a Desktop. The differentiation between server and Desktop is just idiotic. Use the best tools to get the job done, otherwise go and use some other OS where there are 10 different versions and licensing schemes.
273.10/17/2007 6:56:00 PMBecause most generic pre-installed products include software that I don't need.
274.10/17/2007 6:59:00 PMStill not widespread enough for users and customers to recognise it as a viable option...
275.10/17/2007 7:00:00 PMThey don't provide any advantage relative to the existing capabilities of the current IT staff with existing non pre-installed products.
276.10/17/2007 7:01:00 PM-
277.10/17/2007 7:03:00 PMNeed in specific features of diff. distributions. And possibility to control in an easy way (like Slackware).
278.10/17/2007 7:03:00 PMprice
279.10/17/2007 7:06:00 PMDon't want pre-installed, want hardware we can put our distro choice on
280.10/17/2007 7:07:00 PMI personally have none but I am a small voice in the winds of change.
281.10/17/2007 7:07:00 PMnothing special, just own harddisk, partitions, devices etc. and own desktop applications, test releases (eg. Fedora test releases)
282.10/17/2007 7:08:00 PMnot userfriendly
283.10/17/2007 7:08:00 PMDon't know of any that exist and are relevant to our organization
284.10/17/2007 7:09:00 PMAlready hooked up on Microsoft system...
285.10/17/2007 7:10:00 PMGeneric issue: There is: A. A very large user base of MS Office and compatible software (eg software that uses MS Word libraries for exporting data in .doc or .XLS format) B. A lot of commercial closed source ERP suites based on MS Windows clients, servers and databases, which are much more capable than open source equivalents (eg Compiere ERP &amp; CRM). In other words: There aren't any good L i n u x B u s i n e s s A p l l i c a t i o n s
286.10/17/2007 7:12:00 PMdell with its linux is not an option if u compare it to large store's promotions with pc's with windows preinstalled
287.10/17/2007 7:12:00 PMSoftware compability, Adobe, Autodesk, etc
288.10/17/2007 7:12:00 PMThe lack of some basic programs which would be needed for our business.
289.10/17/2007 7:13:00 PMI think we rather would like to deploy standardized desktop environments to all desktops, including only the applications we have choosen. Better automatic install methods and global PC and application management solutions with easy to use interfaces are needed.
290.10/17/2007 7:13:00 PMPrefer installing systems ourselves due to customization requirements.
291.10/17/2007 7:18:00 PMnothing special
292.10/17/2007 7:19:00 PMLack of control over the preinstalled environment -- works better to just replicate a known-working environment to cut down on admin time.
293.10/17/2007 7:19:00 PMHow do I choose between Ubuntu on Dell, HP on RH and Novel/Suse on Lenovo? My adminstartion buys Lenovo...but hates SuSe...so we are stuck!
294.10/17/2007 7:19:00 PMWe would probably choose one of them, but personally I like it more when I'm in control of the installation process (so I know every little piece of that system through documentation)
295.10/17/2007 7:20:00 PMLack of applications.
296.10/17/2007 7:23:00 PMIt is easier for us to do quick installs using FAI/PXEBoot with our customizations.
297.10/17/2007 7:23:00 PMSave Ubuntu/Dell, I refuse to deal with anyone who acknowledges the implied threat from Microsoft.
298.10/17/2007 7:25:00 PMWhy pre-install a commercial (read, profit-driven) product when a community-governed distribution (Debian) is available? It has had a dozen years of mission consistency, opposed to the fits and starts of the profiteering organizations (including Linux Foundation, which pays its governance obscene salaries)
299.10/17/2007 7:26:00 PMThey are fine but not enough to convince people to use Linux desktop when the applications in Linux are not up to the ease of use of Office.
300.10/17/2007 7:26:00 PMcompatibilty with exchange servers and related stuff
301.10/17/2007 7:26:00 PMThis is not important. OS installation is the least time consuming activity, so it doesn't matter whether it is pre-installed or not.
302.10/17/2007 7:27:00 PMLack of availability/choice in our area. No need in them, we can deploy everything on our own on existing hardware.
303.10/17/2007 7:27:00 PMNone
304.10/17/2007 7:28:00 PMNot secure/upto date enough, missing critical packages
305.10/17/2007 7:30:00 PMIt's not Mac
306.10/17/2007 7:31:00 PMSpecial Hardware Requierements
307.10/17/2007 7:33:00 PMNone
308.10/17/2007 7:33:00 PMI want to learn everything about Linux and setup my system by myself (so i know how it works, why it works like that and how much i can trust it).
309.10/17/2007 7:35:00 PMMost common Linux distributions are somewhat bloated due to over-use of external libraries. Most distributions that we have tried suffers from package-dependencies. So choosing the applications/libraries that we might need usually ends up with a setup that includes, for example, 3-4 mail clients. And a abundance of applications and libraries that are really never used.
310.10/17/2007 7:36:00 PMWe have the relevant knowledge to build pre-installed environments
311.10/17/2007 7:38:00 PMNo issues.. no need..
312.10/17/2007 7:38:00 PMNo need, In house installation on our own hardware is the norm.
313.10/17/2007 7:38:00 PMWe have already customized a Ubuntu Installation for our in-house needs. This gives us the full control over the installed OS.
314.10/17/2007 7:39:00 PMNone
315.10/17/2007 7:40:00 PMthe stuff that i clicked before
316.10/17/2007 7:42:00 PMNone. Cio is simply married to MS
317.10/17/2007 7:42:00 PMPrefer to build and configure hareware depending specific for the implementaion. Pre-installed laptops are on the other hand very much preferred
318.10/17/2007 7:43:00 PMThe vendors seems to focus on ONE distribution and in our casi sin't that the one that is standard in the company.
319.10/17/2007 7:46:00 PMwe want to choose
320.10/17/2007 7:46:00 PMSupported life of the OS is shorter than the supported life of the hardware. Need OS support that is at least as long as Microsoft Windows XP.
321.10/17/2007 7:47:00 PMWe know very well what features we need and don't wish to have someone else pre-install things we won't use anyway.
322.10/17/2007 7:48:00 PMNO guarantee of no MS Tax
323.10/17/2007 7:51:00 PMPresumed compatibility issues
324.10/17/2007 7:51:00 PMWe custom build all operating system images.
325.10/17/2007 7:51:00 PMCOST!
326.10/17/2007 7:53:00 PMWe use plain Debian in most cases, and this is not yet available as pre-install.
327.10/17/2007 7:53:00 PMWe have our own.
328.10/17/2007 7:55:00 PMthey are preinstalled and we build/use in-house products
329.10/17/2007 7:55:00 PMlack of similar linux programs to windows programs
330.10/17/2007 7:55:00 PMUsers doesn&#180;t know how to use it. Incompability with their computers &quot;at home&quot;.
331.10/17/2007 7:57:00 PMour major database needs to be able to run on all computers
332.10/17/2007 7:59:00 PMIf there where ONE distrubution to choose from i.e. windows, mac OS x AND Linux we would prob. run some machines on linux.
333.10/17/2007 8:02:00 PMCost
334.10/17/2007 8:02:00 PMNot available in New Zealand. Must come with the right Linux distribution (Ubuntu/Debian).
335.10/17/2007 8:02:00 PMWe mostly use windows...
336.10/17/2007 8:03:00 PMwe can install this ourself =)
337.10/17/2007 8:03:00 PMPre-installed Linux offerings have no impact on our Windows vs Linux decision for desktops. Installing either OS is trivial.
338.10/17/2007 8:04:00 PMnot a problem with them, would rather install/configure myself for best fit. Also I am not a corporate user, a lot of these questions are off track
339.10/17/2007 8:05:00 PMLack of (inital) customization.
340.10/17/2007 8:07:00 PMLack of choice, plus that one might have to reinstall later, and then pre-installed OS doesn't matter.
341.10/17/2007 8:11:00 PMLack of support for Point Of Sale hardware (Cashier, barcode reader, touchscreen etc)
342.10/17/2007 8:12:00 PMGames wont work under linux, thats a major obstacle.
343.10/17/2007 8:17:00 PMAs written above... there is no need to have a pre-installed free linux OS, since German universities does not have to pay for MS-licences !!!!!
344.10/17/2007 8:17:00 PMCustomization of standard desktop distros is easier in long term usage. Desktop's must also be more modern and fancier and will be more often updated for non-business reasons.
345.10/17/2007 8:17:00 PMNot available in New Zealand is one. The install would be customized in the IT shop anyway. May as well do an install from an image there.
346.10/17/2007 8:20:00 PMWe have to so so much configuration anyway so we earn time by using our own pre-made images.
347.10/17/2007 8:23:00 PMnon, it's just easy to make and install an inhouse installation/image.
348.10/17/2007 8:23:00 PMwe are an engineering company and always have different requirements for every engineer. Basically they are project dependent
349.10/17/2007 8:26:00 PMInflexibility
350.10/17/2007 8:29:00 PMHave a standard install. There is no major issue with the pre-installed image, except that it is not the standard install.
351.10/17/2007 8:32:00 PMWe have no issue with pre-installed Linux products, we have no *need* for pre-installed Linux products.
352.10/17/2007 8:33:00 PMDistribution
353.10/17/2007 8:34:00 PMOur audio editing systems our somewhat modified and built for us by a local company.
354.10/17/2007 8:36:00 PMLack of training for average Joe user.
355.10/17/2007 8:38:00 PMWe have enough in-house expertise to install and mangage Linux desktops, therefore we do not need preinstalled products.
356.10/17/2007 8:39:00 PMI really do not know. There were no this option.
357.10/17/2007 8:41:00 PMI don't have a strong opinion against them per se. Mostly I don't see the point. Installation of a regular distribution just isn't that hard.
358.10/17/2007 8:42:00 PMStock loads would still need to be customized. We even wipe pre-loaded windows and reload/configure our own version.
359.10/17/2007 8:43:00 PMThey are to complex
360.10/17/2007 8:46:00 PMNot sure about vendors support in the long run. Still not uncommon for pre-installed products to require unsupported / non-free drivers.
361.10/17/2007 8:47:00 PMnone
362.10/17/2007 8:50:00 PMPre-installed linux is usually very 'generalized' and I personally prefer to install the OS myself in order to customize it the way I want it.
363.10/17/2007 8:51:00 PMI am experienced with RedHat product ( Fedora), do not want to change distro.
364.10/17/2007 8:55:00 PMLack of software
365.10/17/2007 8:57:00 PMNothing really. We deploy linux distributions ourselves.
366.10/17/2007 8:59:00 PMDells quality.
367.10/17/2007 9:00:00 PMNo major issues, can install any OS myself.
368.10/17/2007 9:09:00 PMCompany has only recently splashed out on Windows desktops.
369.10/17/2007 9:13:00 PMIts a problem with the company adopting it as a Corporate standard, as it is not yet deemed to be able to provides ALL of the tools (or equivalents) to those used on Windows (and more importantly able to integrate with Windows).
370.10/17/2007 9:15:00 PMWe do not typically purchase from these outlets.
371.10/17/2007 9:16:00 PMThe problem is not wether it i spre installed or not Windows is routinely updated from XP home to pro or Vista home to ultimate (We got 900 free updates to vista ultimate, no doubt vredited as Vista sales). The main problem lies in technical staff, most of whom barely is able to support Windows. how on earth do anyone think that these guys would look positive on a change??? They'll do anythong to discredit anything that is not a MS product.
372.10/17/2007 9:16:00 PMNoting really, just would prefer to do all installations in house on bare bones systems.
373.10/17/2007 9:17:00 PMOur linux users like freedom by choosing their own desktop setup (windowmanager, mail tools etc.) So pre-installed environment is not needed for our company.
374.10/17/2007 9:18:00 PMour company is using for its operations majorly self developed applications. so it is difficult to port them to linux easily and what is also critical in time
375.10/17/2007 9:17:00 PMLittle to no Hardware Choice.
376.10/17/2007 9:21:00 PMour company has even an own windows 'distribution' developed together with microsoft.
377.10/17/2007 9:21:00 PMethernet card does not work with ubuntu. no good printer driver is available for Samsung CLP-300.
378.10/17/2007 9:22:00 PMIt's good with preinstalled products, bu we like to install them ourselves
379.10/17/2007 9:22:00 PMLimited possibilities for customization.
380.10/17/2007 9:25:00 PMit can contain anything (e.g. a rootkit)
381.10/17/2007 9:26:00 PMAll other things being equal except for price, identical speced machines with windows pre-installed is less expensive on the average. It is simply cheaper to buy with MS and then remove and replace with linux.
382.10/17/2007 9:26:00 PMWe don't buy RTR computers...
383.10/17/2007 9:29:00 PMA company still needs to configure a desktop to fit their needs, including JAVA support, proprietary graphics drivers (if necessary), applications, desktop shortcuts, etc.
384.10/17/2007 9:31:00 PMManagements reluctance to try
385.10/17/2007 9:32:00 PMWe make our own distribution upon RedHat. For all of our users, there is to made the right decision to give them the right programm. We, as the company, have to support our customers because we are the one, who are the first contact. So our HOTLINE must have to know the programms well.
386.10/17/2007 9:39:00 PMNone exists for our business needs (computer graphics).
387.10/17/2007 9:43:00 PMNone
388.10/17/2007 9:45:00 PMmsoffice
389.10/17/2007 9:46:00 PMOther than assurance of hardware support, I don't see the value.
390.10/17/2007 9:48:00 PMNo issues, we just prefer doing it ourselves.
391.10/17/2007 9:51:00 PMdon't care about pre-installations
392.10/17/2007 9:51:00 PMUnnecessary; installation of Linux is not difficult on modern distros. Rather get a cheap version of another OS with purchase and duel boot to primary Linux partition. Afterall, Linux is free.
393.10/17/2007 9:53:00 PMThese does not meet 100% our business requirements.
394.10/17/2007 9:59:00 PMTheyfocuson&quot;real&quot;users.Ibasicallywant&quot;cashier&quot;machines,completelylockeddownwithverybasicGUIetc.Wewouldprobablyconsultanexternalexperttorollourownbasedonsomebigdistribution.
395.10/17/2007 10:01:00 PMWe often need dual boot with Windows and Linux
396.10/17/2007 10:02:00 PMWe do it better ourselves, making images after configuration.. It's not preventing us from anything, but we don't need it, and it would not be a timesaver.
397.10/17/2007 10:06:00 PMNo real issues. We can manage installation ourselves, and we do some custom configuration that makes it easier to just have ready-to-install images.
398.10/17/2007 10:06:00 PMVendors need to support Linux regardless of Linux distribution, with full support for all of their hardware. Shipping on one or two laptops/desktops isn't enough
399.10/17/2007 10:07:00 PMConfiguring and software installation
400.10/17/2007 10:08:00 PMNot available through our dealer channel.
401.10/17/2007 10:14:00 PMAll installation is done in-house.
402.10/17/2007 10:18:00 PMWe build our system from base system (distros) installation, and skip lots of not neccessary things (packages) from distros...
403.10/17/2007 10:25:00 PMFedora installation works fine. We need ability to dual-boot to Windows.
404.10/17/2007 10:28:00 PM?
405.10/17/2007 10:32:00 PMSoftware compability is more important
406.10/17/2007 10:33:00 PMLack of laguageconfiguration
407.10/17/2007 10:37:00 PMnothing really works 100% and to many optional apps.....4 g00ds sake decide!
408.10/17/2007 10:38:00 PMour line of business is very specific and there are only half a dozen vendors providing suitable CAT tools
409.10/17/2007 10:38:00 PMI prefer to build from the ground up, customizing each system as per its specific needs. A pre-install simply isn't necessary.
410.10/17/2007 10:41:00 PMWe already have hardware, so we just need the operating system.
411.10/17/2007 10:43:00 PMThey are not configured in an optimal way
412.10/17/2007 10:45:00 PMWe need customization anyhow
413.10/17/2007 10:47:00 PMWe will customize internally.
414.10/17/2007 10:47:00 PMstandard Linux distros work fine
415.10/17/2007 10:55:00 PMThere are no issues with preinstalled products that will prevent us from using it, but I don't see us using Linux, preinstalled or not. Not that I don't want to use Linux, but I don't think it will happen.
416.10/17/2007 10:56:00 PMTraining the support/help desk personnel and training end users to use it.
417.10/17/2007 10:58:00 PMConfiguration
418.10/17/2007 10:59:00 PMWe procure white box machines and install the OS in house.
419.10/17/2007 10:59:00 PMWe always deploy our own builds
420.10/17/2007 11:00:00 PMMeeting our organizations requirements. We use mirrored disks and LVM as standard, and find pre-installed desktops traditionally don't deploy these.
421.10/17/2007 11:10:00 PMcompany policy prevents the use of systems installed by other than own staff
422.10/17/2007 11:11:00 PMLack of flexibility
423.10/17/2007 11:16:00 PMAll students have a laptot by there own, and giving them one with linux pre-installed would require training for all new students.
424.10/17/2007 11:19:00 PMWe build our own computers. And we load what software we want.
425.10/17/2007 11:21:00 PMThere is no need Linux is easy enough to install anyway.
426.10/17/2007 11:23:00 PMNo issues with pre-installed products, just the our organisation will be installing their own configured image anyway.
427.10/17/2007 11:31:00 PMNot applicable
428.10/17/2007 11:36:00 PMLack of availability of localized (Japanese) versions
429.10/17/2007 11:40:00 PMFlexibility and customized installations and configurations
430.10/17/2007 11:46:00 PMNot so many distros/desktop environment to choos from
431.10/17/2007 11:46:00 PMDistribution selection
432.10/17/2007 11:50:00 PMn/a
433.10/17/2007 11:53:00 PMI'm a hardcore Hardened Gentoo user and I prefer to install my own desktop.
434.10/17/2007 11:55:00 PMNever been a fan of pre-installed systems..
435.10/17/2007 11:56:00 PMNot being able to select whatever dist i like..
436.10/18/2007 12:01:00 AMCost, availability, customisability
437.10/18/2007 12:07:00 AMNo need for this organization.
438.10/18/2007 12:19:00 AMI like to roll my own. I know what's in it.
439.10/18/2007 12:20:00 AMNot Gentoo based.
440.10/18/2007 12:23:00 AMWe make the installation of our own configured system.
441.10/18/2007 12:26:00 AMwrong distributions
442.10/18/2007 12:36:00 AMWe are able to install them for myself
443.10/18/2007 12:44:00 AMNo need. We install our own.
444.10/18/2007 12:53:00 AMno need to have it pre-installed
445.10/18/2007 12:55:00 AMWe prefer the flexibility and cost structure of Debian GNU/Linux.
446.10/18/2007 12:57:00 AMcost
447.10/18/2007 1:00:00 AM1)Trust. It could come with a rootkit (we don't use pre-installed Windows either) 2)We generally prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu.
448.10/18/2007 1:05:00 AMYou don't know what you are getting. Is full documentation on what they have done for setup and non-binary drivers available? Security is important. If they did provide everything - how do you verify what they say is true?
449.10/18/2007 1:22:00 AMInstalling Linux is easy, and anyway need to apply local customization so we don't see much need of having it preinstalled.
450.10/18/2007 1:23:00 AMWe want to install ourselves.
451.10/18/2007 1:25:00 AMWe require heavy customisation of our environment
452.10/18/2007 1:28:00 AMNone
453.10/18/2007 1:31:00 AMWe have no issue with pre-installed systems, per se, but we would develop our own inhouse build of Linux rather than use an off-the-shelf solution.
454.10/18/2007 1:32:00 AMWrong distributions. We like (pure) Debian, and very few hardware vendors offer Debian 4.0-based solutions. As for our needs, RedHat, SuSE and other more commonly available pre-installed Linux distros tend to shift the focus from OS stability/simplicity to OS GUI overkill - and we don't want those &quot;Windowsified&quot; Linux versions...
455.10/18/2007 1:41:00 AMwe need customization anyway
456.10/18/2007 1:46:00 AMWe prefer to control all installations.
457.10/18/2007 1:52:00 AMmany of our applications don't work with linux
458.10/18/2007 1:58:00 AMWe can do it ourselves.
459.10/18/2007 2:04:00 AMMost of them only offer ubuntu, there are no other choices.
460.10/18/2007 2:05:00 AMI just generally prefer setting a workstation up myself, mostly since that's the way it's always been done. No &quot;issues&quot; with pre-installed, per se.
461.10/18/2007 2:07:00 AMI want build my linux box myself. Settting up pre-installed products to my taste is time wasting.
462.10/18/2007 2:07:00 AMThey are not sufficiently customized for our needs.
463.10/18/2007 2:11:00 AMDon't need them
464.10/18/2007 2:12:00 AMnot configured according to needs or best management
465.10/18/2007 2:24:00 AMPHB's believe in MS Office, I need to demonstrate VSD and MPP compatibility. Then secure-by-default needs to meet with trust-me in the management tools, so we can educate the users.
466.10/18/2007 2:27:00 AMNothing pre-installed on in house custom built whiteboxes
467.10/18/2007 2:28:00 AMTaste difference between the pre-installers and ourselves.
468.10/18/2007 2:28:00 AMWe have existing hardware.
469.10/18/2007 2:33:00 AMCustomization
470.10/18/2007 2:35:00 AMInstalling Linux is not a problem in our company, so there is no need for pre-install desktops for us.
471.10/18/2007 2:35:00 AMThe pre-installed distributions don't yet meet our needs. We have to redo enough that its easier just to copy or script a custom install on all systems.
472.10/18/2007 2:39:00 AMNone. I will consider one when the time comes to upgrade my laptop, but until then, I'll just use a distribution that I install myself.
473.10/18/2007 2:39:00 AMThe don't come with a windows license key. Linux pre-installed systems costs just as much as a windows system, yet I can D/L a copy of Linux for free and install it, but cant do the same with Windows. Makes more sense to buy the windows version, save the key and install linux on your own. This way you get more for you money
474.10/18/2007 2:55:00 AMI already have a PC and don't need another one (yet). When I do replace, it will be with high-end AMD gear, which (apparently) does not yet come as pre-install.
475.10/18/2007 2:58:00 AMcompatibility with our inhouse applications.
476.10/18/2007 3:00:00 AMWhat distro? EG: Dell uses Ubunto, but we're using Fedora / CentOS. Preinstall, then, offers little benefit.
477.10/18/2007 3:27:00 AMI don't know what they are
478.10/18/2007 3:32:00 AMPropietary hardware and driver support. Limited choice of Linux distributions. Limited ability to upgrade hardware.
479.10/18/2007 3:36:00 AMDistribution choices, and their current fascination with binary video drivers
480.10/18/2007 3:52:00 AMtoo few to choose
481.10/18/2007 4:01:00 AMThere are too many ways to customize a Linux installation and a prepackaged version rarely matches closely enough to make it worth while. It's just easier to build the machines ourselves.
482.10/18/2007 4:24:00 AMNo issues
483.10/18/2007 4:28:00 AMNo point. I'm going to drop in a CD/DVD when I first turn it on. The installation process is automated by pre-seeding.
484.10/18/2007 4:52:00 AMease of procurement / availability
485.10/18/2007 4:52:00 AMLimited compatibility with ms exchange/office
486.10/18/2007 4:53:00 AMDon't need them.
487.10/18/2007 5:00:00 AMUnnecessary bloatage that would fault our development. Its not much, but we like a clean machine (slackware) to dev on.
488.10/18/2007 5:01:00 AMGood documentation and localization
489.10/18/2007 5:06:00 AMMissing applications.
490.10/18/2007 5:09:00 AMinternal resource constraints
491.10/18/2007 5:11:00 AMInsufficient level of customization
492.10/18/2007 5:36:00 AMNo issues, just prefer to install ourselves.
493.10/18/2007 5:43:00 AMSame ass all other questions
494.10/18/2007 5:44:00 AMIt's not fully customizable.
495.10/18/2007 5:48:00 AMThey are not selling in Russia
496.10/18/2007 5:51:00 AM-
497.10/18/2007 5:51:00 AMFear of change
498.10/18/2007 6:01:00 AMlow-end hardware specifications
499.10/18/2007 6:01:00 AMThey are not available on my local area, they are not available for the needed hardware models, they still need better peripheral support.
500.10/18/2007 6:03:00 AMwe reinstall the OS as company policy
501.10/18/2007 6:10:00 AMIntegration with existing infrastructure, wrong distribution. Must be included in governmental frame agreement, in Sweden called Verva.
502.10/18/2007 6:11:00 AMLinux itself. Many really special program we need are just for windows and rather complex. We can't gurantee stability under linux...
503.10/18/2007 6:16:00 AMMissing customization
504.10/18/2007 6:20:00 AMThey can't come trimmed and tailored to our needs.
505.10/18/2007 6:24:00 AMNone, I've always installed my own Linux.
506.10/18/2007 6:26:00 AMHave enough computers right now, waiting for Linux version of my applications
507.10/18/2007 6:26:00 AMWe must pre install by our selves these machines.
508.10/18/2007 6:31:00 AMThe lack of customisation
509.10/18/2007 6:44:00 AMSo long i have heard that those are mainly based on ubuntu that doesn't meet our plans.. We install our linux desktops ourself..
510.10/18/2007 6:45:00 AMCan't cursomize the installation with *our* tools in an easy way. It's often easyer to install everything from scratch.
511.10/18/2007 6:56:00 AMnone
512.10/18/2007 6:56:00 AMClumsy and buggy configuration. To much preconfigured. To much nonsens in the UI.
513.10/18/2007 6:58:00 AMThere is no need for preinstalled products because our IT Department customizes the PCs from scratch
514.10/18/2007 7:02:00 AMwe'd prefer to install same distro on all machines, so if new machines gonna be with another distro, than what we use - we'll just wipe it out, and install windows or ubuntu on it.
515.10/18/2007 7:06:00 AMNothing. Our staff install the OSs.
516.10/18/2007 7:09:00 AMNone, the installation of linux already is simple enough that we buy computers without os and install it ourselves.
517.10/18/2007 7:11:00 AMnot customized
518.10/18/2007 7:14:00 AMtraining and deployment costs
519.10/18/2007 7:14:00 AMCost, selection, customization
520.10/18/2007 7:15:00 AMConfiguration
521.10/18/2007 7:15:00 AMChoice of distributions offered, price (is cheaper to build system).
522.10/18/2007 7:16:00 AMNone, really. Same issues with self-installed.
523.10/18/2007 7:16:00 AMWe have our own needs that pre-installed products does not meet. It is easier to install it for ourselves.
524.10/18/2007 7:17:00 AMThe hardware. The best-known offering is from Dell, and I'd NEVER buy a Dell computer - they're cheap, because they're made from cheap parts - you get what you pay for, and I need hardware that's RELIABLE!
525.10/18/2007 7:18:00 AMnone, but we build our own
526.10/18/2007 7:18:00 AMNone, but &quot;our organization has been waiting for pre-installed Linux offerings&quot; Is not true.
527.10/18/2007 7:19:00 AMNo difference in cost for pre-installed vs self-install. Also, less customization is available for pre-installed systems.
528.10/18/2007 7:20:00 AMno question of considering linux. .
529.10/18/2007 7:21:00 AMThere are so few; why hunt for one when I can easily install it myself?
530.10/18/2007 7:23:00 AMWe install via ghost-image.
531.10/18/2007 7:23:00 AMSelf-installing is not a major task - customization is easier
532.10/18/2007 7:28:00 AMNo major issues we can just install for free
533.10/18/2007 7:28:00 AMdriver support, ready applications as replacements for windows apps.
534.10/18/2007 7:29:00 AMThe distribution they are based one. Every pre-installed product must have 2-3 options to choose from on the first boot.
535.10/18/2007 7:29:00 AMIt's not &quot;issues&quot; with them but we have a strict policy about our software environment and it's easier to install a system from scratch that meets our criteria than to review an already installed one. Basically on one hand we have the resources and expertise to handle the task of deploying software environments and on the other hand we do not trust any third party to do this for us.
536.10/18/2007 7:32:00 AMAt work we use ltsp based products like k12ltsp (fedora based) and plan to migrate ubuntu ltsp based distro (edubuntu I guess). Ubuntu is good for personal computers like laptops. additional problems are formats .doc .xls realmedia and windows media formats. Estonian Television (ETV) videoclips in internet are windows media format only.
537.10/18/2007 7:34:00 AMWe generally use the KDE environment and we favour OpenSuSE and Mandriva which is not available preinstalled. (South Africa)
538.10/18/2007 7:36:00 AMThe same a s stated before. It still doesn't run the applications we need.
539.10/18/2007 7:38:00 AMThere are no issues with the pre-installed products. We are aiming towards embedded market.
540.10/18/2007 7:39:00 AMThe problem is not the pre-installed products, we can not buy them as long as the software that is critical to our business does not exist for Linux.
541.10/18/2007 7:40:00 AMspecial needs by workers
542.10/18/2007 7:44:00 AMWell, the two possible answers to the last question didn't really leave any middle ground... Would probably consider getting a pre-installed product, but more likely to get a Windows machine and install a Linux distribution myself for dual-boot.
543.10/18/2007 7:46:00 AMNo interest, our main development line is windows-based currently.
544.10/18/2007 7:46:00 AMActually I haven't evaluated any.
545.10/18/2007 7:46:00 AMNot good enough Service at this moment. No good alternative for Office products. Not good enough compatibility with MS products
546.10/18/2007 7:48:00 AMThey're often clogged up with stuff not needed, I'd rather have a blank computer sent to me and then use a self made hdd image, with the necessary stuff.
547.10/18/2007 7:52:00 AMWe don't require pre-installation, since we can install in-house. Only advantage to a pre-installed system is that it guarantees that all the hardware will work with Linux. For example, we would buy an Ubuntu-Dell because we know it would run Linux properly, but we'd install Mandriva/Zenwalk instead.
548.10/18/2007 7:53:00 AMPre-installed Linux desktop products from major vendors such as Dell are not yet available in our country (Sweden).
549.10/18/2007 7:55:00 AMThey do not apply to our organisation. We need mobile (PDA) devices comparable to Windows Mobile devices with the same level of performance and compatibility.
550.10/18/2007 7:55:00 AMno need
551.10/18/2007 7:56:00 AMNot me, my company. They are using Windows for years, and they don't want to change.
552.10/18/2007 8:01:00 AMOur Infrastrukture is heterogeneous, we rarely replace hardware and have a small budget. We don't see advantages in infrequent integrated pre-installed desktops.
553.10/18/2007 8:20:00 AMIn most cases they do not meet our requirements, and we have the skill to do it ourselves.
554.10/18/2007 8:26:00 AMnever heard about them
555.10/18/2007 8:29:00 AMhardware compatibility
556.10/18/2007 8:38:00 AM1. management's mind set 2. our main business application does not work properly on linux+wine
557.10/18/2007 8:39:00 AMInternal requirements
558.10/18/2007 8:44:00 AMI don't want Ubuntu, Red Hat or SuSE, I want to chose distribution for myself.
559.10/18/2007 8:54:00 AMWe need re-customize desktops anyway.
560.10/18/2007 8:55:00 AMCurrent management philosophies
561.10/18/2007 8:56:00 AMswitching isn't a matter of preinstalled linux availability, see my previous answers
562.10/18/2007 8:59:00 AMHistorical reasons. Windows were the first platform and very difficult to integrate it to Linux :(
563.10/18/2007 9:08:00 AMnone
564.10/18/2007 9:09:00 AMwrong dist
565.10/18/2007 9:14:00 AMnot flexible enough and over priced.
566.10/18/2007 9:14:00 AMNo issues. We only have no plans for buying Linux pre-installed machines. We can only install Linux on our existing machines if applications we use in Windows are available in Linux.
567.10/18/2007 9:16:00 AMWe prefer Debian distribution.
568.10/18/2007 9:19:00 AMWe need such special applications and often we need to reinstall everything from scratch, that the idea of buying preinstalled systems is just not practical. Unless the vendor would configure and install our special software also.
569.10/18/2007 9:31:00 AMLack of availible quality preinstalled linux distros in our country
570.10/18/2007 9:35:00 AMNot too flexible
571.10/18/2007 9:36:00 AMpre installed has to come with a compatible distribution - nowadays ubuntu seems to be the only available option. I did not yet see a laptop comeing with opensuse. a comprehensive set of drivers or 100% hardware support by a standard distribution would be completely ok. just sell these things without pre-installed vista!
572.10/18/2007 9:41:00 AMNot enough stability
573.10/18/2007 9:58:00 AMWe use SuSE and openSuSE
574.10/18/2007 10:00:00 AMprobably our IT department finds it easier to install and configure linux themselves
575.10/18/2007 10:05:00 AMIn a bank the admins have to install everything from scratch, controlling the whole process.
576.10/18/2007 10:08:00 AMsoftware compatibility
577.10/18/2007 10:13:00 AMadditional cost - we install ourselves
578.10/18/2007 10:19:00 AMnot always up to date
579.10/18/2007 10:23:00 AMDon't know any vendor except Dell who sells Linux. Dell is very expensive and does not fit our needs. Also Ubuntu is not that great.
580.10/18/2007 10:26:00 AMI like to choose the distribution myself.
581.10/18/2007 10:30:00 AMI can do it myself, as i want, and those distros that i want.
582.10/18/2007 10:32:00 AMNeed more dist to choose from
583.10/18/2007 10:41:00 AMcan't trust in those
584.10/18/2007 10:49:00 AMExperience with pre-installed products indicate they are usually poorly configured and don't match environment requirements.
585.10/18/2007 10:57:00 AMEase of use
586.10/18/2007 11:06:00 AMLack of flexibility in adapting the product to a wide range of user needs
587.10/18/2007 11:07:00 AMMostly they do not come with the flavour of linux (Gentoo) we are using and so desktop administration is harder due to inhomogenious linux environment.
588.10/18/2007 11:12:00 AMIt can&#180;t run the applications we need.
589.10/18/2007 11:35:00 AMnone
590.10/18/2007 11:39:00 AMPrefer to build our own hardware to suit our needs using commercial hardware.
591.10/18/2007 11:50:00 AMcorporate standards enforcement
592.10/18/2007 11:52:00 AMI like only the software installed I use and not other stuff as well
593.10/18/2007 11:53:00 AMthere are too few choices of hardware that comes with pre-installed linux
594.10/18/2007 12:03:00 PMI see hardly any such products over here
595.10/18/2007 12:06:00 PMtoo bloated
596.10/18/2007 12:07:00 PMNo issues, I'd just rather install myself.
597.10/18/2007 12:08:00 PMSecurity Settings
598.10/18/2007 12:11:00 PMUnlikely to be at the bleeding edge that our desktop users need
599.10/18/2007 12:15:00 PMspeed flexibility
600.10/18/2007 12:16:00 PMAbility to interconnect with existing applications/hardware available on the netwrork, requiring and integration between distribution specific setup software.
601.10/18/2007 12:17:00 PMAs this is a large organization, we are pretty concerned about the integration of the desktops within the general infrastructure (domain, mail, servers, etc). Most likely we would run a custom packaged Linux based on SLED or Ubuntu with all the settings in place (authentication, browser settings, etc). Also, I wouldn't trust a pre-installed linux for home usage. Considering the experience of all the trial crap and spyware which come bundled with Windows; I wouldn't trust manufacturers not to include some crap on Linux. And since the usual distro has few hundrades packages installed by default; scanning the installed packages for crap would be more difficult than on Windows. Also, there might be &quot;usual&quot; packages which wouldn't look suspicious with crappy configs. But I totally support pre-installed Linux on desktops; it gives me the confidence that the hardware support is ok in linux; and there was some beta testing before.
602.10/18/2007 12:26:00 PMlimited choice of options
603.10/18/2007 12:27:00 PMOur CAD applications (vectorworks) is not available on linux yet.
604.10/18/2007 12:28:00 PM* migration of &quot;internet explorer 6&quot; optimized web applications * training for office products * reading existing word and excel documents
605.10/18/2007 12:30:00 PMWell... it&#180;s not Windows. Our management is pretty thick headed about going down the Windows road. It makes you wanna cry...
606.10/18/2007 12:32:00 PMLack of application support, overly complex, differences between different distros
607.10/18/2007 12:34:00 PMPrefer to self-install.
608.10/18/2007 12:34:00 PMGentoo/Linux is better build from source ;-)
609.10/18/2007 12:35:00 PMSome programs don't run under linux, like MathCAD 13/14. These programs use .NET, which isn't compatible with wine.
610.10/18/2007 12:35:00 PMTo many not needed things. The typical Windowslike put everything on the pc you can get
611.10/18/2007 12:35:00 PMCost of hardware. Choosing hardware withou OS and installing it by ourself is much cheaper in our case.
612.10/18/2007 12:39:00 PMOur customers are not asking for it.
613.10/18/2007 12:40:00 PMNormally these offerings are limited to a specific distribution and to only a small number of different hardware systems. Also, our company has a internal default install to keep all computers identical. I have never seen the option to buy a computer with a set of software that is definable by the customer.
614.10/18/2007 12:41:00 PMThey are mostly okay, but not really tailored to my company's needs. Hence, they are not really too much of a help.
615.10/18/2007 12:42:00 PMThere are no issues which preventing us from using such pre-installed products.
616.10/18/2007 12:43:00 PMThey lack customization
617.10/18/2007 12:44:00 PMClosed firmware
618.10/18/2007 12:45:00 PMto many unused stuff are exist in the pre-installed products
619.10/18/2007 12:47:00 PMNone. We roll our own. Preinstalled may be fine if it comes with the right distro. Blank is ok. But driver support is essential! So this helps
620.10/18/2007 12:49:00 PMPreinstalling anything discriminates others
621.10/18/2007 12:49:00 PMhardware issues
622.10/18/2007 12:52:00 PMManagement not interested in pursuing it. I'm certainly ready to trial them myself.
623.10/18/2007 12:53:00 PMOur organization suffers from &quot;not invented here&quot; syndrome. If it's not invented here, it isn't worth much.
624.10/18/2007 12:54:00 PMDifferent user's different needs, someones uses latest Ubuntu, someones like to use RHEL with our corporate applications added
625.10/18/2007 12:54:00 PMPre-installation not an issue, our company just produces MS-based software.
626.10/18/2007 12:55:00 PMno idea, yet
627.10/18/2007 12:56:00 PMdon't know
628.10/18/2007 12:57:00 PMNo benefits and less choice. We have the technical capacity to install Linux onto computers. Our issues are with 3rd party applications we are locked into
629.10/18/2007 12:57:00 PMOld windows user
630.10/18/2007 12:59:00 PMHardware support for some special hardware
631.10/18/2007 12:59:00 PMno need for it
632.10/18/2007 1:00:00 PMNo real issues. We're rather likely to roll out a custom version of some established distribution (most likely Ubuntu or Debian) to our machines.
633.10/18/2007 1:01:00 PMWe would like to decide what Software is running on the Computers, so we've our own Image.
634.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMTo many Inhouse aplications that run so for under Windows
635.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMCustomers need applications running under windows since they don't exist for GNU/Linux at all and don't work with any products, i.e. running them with the help of Wine/Crossover.
636.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMPerception. Retraining.
637.10/18/2007 1:02:00 PMWe prefer manual installation on our servers and we mostly have thinclients for the desktop.
638.10/18/2007 1:03:00 PMmissing windows application
639.10/18/2007 1:08:00 PMi dont mind
640.10/18/2007 1:08:00 PMEveryone here is so technical and wants things his/her way, it's silly to buy them. The first thing everyone does is nuke the install and do it &quot;the right way&quot;
641.10/18/2007 1:09:00 PMWhy bother to get a pre-installed product. People are used to use a distro they have been using for ages and there is not point in forcing them to use something else.
642.10/18/2007 1:16:00 PMUbuntu is not suitable for business critical work.
643.10/18/2007 1:16:00 PMIt's easier to assemble a system ourselfes and install GNU/Linux on it than buying a preinstalled one.
644.10/18/2007 1:17:00 PM3D Gaming Cart Support....
645.10/18/2007 1:17:00 PMPartitioning and package selection
646.10/18/2007 1:17:00 PM1. Limited hardware configuration to choose from. 2. Additional costs with no justification
647.10/18/2007 1:21:00 PMOur employees installs windows to their computers themselves, so installing linux is not a problem for them (for example with Ubuntu, it's easy enough at the moment).
648.10/18/2007 1:24:00 PMSome special environment, so too many changes needed with pre-installed products
649.10/18/2007 1:25:00 PMLack of critical application support
650.10/18/2007 1:27:00 PMIn-house developed software would not be compatible in a Linux environment
651.10/18/2007 1:27:00 PMdon't like
652.10/18/2007 1:30:00 PMWe can deploy our own systems without any problems. But for other end users the pre-installed products will be a great opportunity to dive in into the world of Linux.
653.10/18/2007 1:31:00 PMWe are planning for remote boot for our next upgrade, thus a computer with or with out OS make no difference to US
654.10/18/2007 1:31:00 PMDo not need new hardware at this time. Otherwise, it would depend on the version of Linux available on the hardware. As long as it is possible to easily partion a disk and do a dual boot, pre-installation is not a requirement. Preferable pre-installation for a client machine would be Ubuntu or Kubuntu, if hardware were needed.
655.10/18/2007 1:31:00 PMWe would have to customize these installations. For us it's only neccessary that we have a good hardware-support and a desktop management solution.
656.10/18/2007 1:32:00 PMHave no idea. Personally, if I got to choose, I'd abolish all M$ crap at my university.
657.10/18/2007 1:33:00 PMWe don't plan to buy new HW in the near future. As system administrator I trust systems that I install &amp; configure.
658.10/18/2007 1:34:00 PMLack of options
659.10/18/2007 1:34:00 PMexotic hardware, multiboot configuration
660.10/18/2007 1:38:00 PMI don't want to loose control and knowledge about the systems i run or administrate
661.10/18/2007 1:38:00 PMsudo=baloney,no root login allowed =baloney.Gnome =useless for us, we use KDE. Ubuntu based=no thanks.
662.10/18/2007 1:39:00 PMFlexibility
663.10/18/2007 1:38:00 PMWe build our own boxes to specs. Pre-installed are usually 'take it or leave it'
664.10/18/2007 1:39:00 PMI myself am a pre-installed Linux vendor.
665.10/18/2007 1:40:00 PMWe haven't find pre-installed product in the redhat like family. It crash with our existing platform (CentOS/Fedora). We don't want a &quot;jungle&quot; of distros in our company.
666.10/18/2007 1:47:00 PMWe use own images/setups with customized stuff
667.10/18/2007 1:48:00 PMIncorrect distro; incorrect selection of packages; untrustworthy; needless, overrated issue.
668.10/18/2007 1:56:00 PMWe prefer to do our own scratch installs for customization purposes. As well, we consider hardware and OS separately when purchasing new equipment, and will purchase hardware based on compatibility but not on preinstall.
669.10/18/2007 1:57:00 PMHard disk encryption and VPN needed for all laptops, which is well supported in Linux but impossible to have pre-installed. This means that we have to have our own images of the operating systems anyway (just like we do for Windows desktops). Also the software selection might have to be quite a lot modified, that really leans towards our own installation images + own management systems.
670.10/18/2007 1:58:00 PMToo expensive for what I need. I am more likely to build a desktop computer or server for a very low sum of money and get exactly what I need than spend extra for things I don't really have a use for, just because Linux is pre-installed.
671.10/18/2007 1:59:00 PMI am able to install the OS by myself. So why should I pay anyone for that?
672.10/18/2007 2:01:00 PMPrefer to configure and install own configuration. Would like to stay with current distro and update it from time to time.
673.10/18/2007 2:01:00 PMUnknown. Basically, we are, unfortunately, a Windows by blinders shop. If it's not Windows it doesn't really exist, does it?
674.10/18/2007 2:04:00 PMThe fact that we sit at a branch of vast network for the City of Stockholm...
675.10/18/2007 2:05:00 PMSelf-Installation may be more comfortable on building the needed infrastructure.
676.10/18/2007 2:07:00 PMCustom corporate environment
677.10/18/2007 2:09:00 PMWe still like to 'roll-our-own' installs. We just need our hardware to work out-of-the-box with vanilla kernel. So, open drivers are crucial to us.
678.10/18/2007 2:16:00 PMThe free choice of the operating system someone wants to run is the basis of our organisation. We ourselves prefer computers without pre-installed OS. Nevertheless pre-installed Linuxes are good to spread it among average users, who don't have much technical knowledge.
679.10/18/2007 2:17:00 PMThe Software, which is installed. We have personalized our software for us. So it's easier for us to use our software on hardware we build ourself
680.10/18/2007 2:20:00 PMThe applications used in House are not available for Linux, but there are Linux equivalent tools, but which do not interact. BAD !
681.10/18/2007 2:25:00 PMWe use white-box PCs, not pre-assembled systems. Also, I have found that while the distributions that ship with pre-assembled systems get the user up and running quickly, they are more difficult for professional users to customise according to their needs; it is generally those experienced with Linux that are asking for Linux desktops at present; these other distributions may be more suitable for average desktop users.
682.10/18/2007 2:27:00 PMFor me, I would choose one, but my organization mostly uses Windows, so switching to it would mot meet our requirements.
683.10/18/2007 2:28:00 PMOur IP guy says it's difficoult to mix Windows and Linux workstations in our company. Has to do with our Lotus notes.
684.10/18/2007 2:29:00 PMcompany not willing to invest
685.10/18/2007 2:32:00 PMSite-wide deployment + management of software
686.10/18/2007 2:32:00 PMstability especially after updates security easy to use VPN
687.10/18/2007 2:32:00 PMThere is no issue. Simply I don't need preinstalled stuff, i can do it myself.
688.10/18/2007 2:35:00 PMNon-standardized approaches to configuration (LSB ignorance). &quot;Locked down&quot; kernels or configurations that prevent modifications.
689.10/18/2007 2:41:00 PMOunr company has its own distribution (a slightly modified Debian) -- Linux is installed here.
690.10/18/2007 2:41:00 PMIt is more time consuming to reconfigure those preinstalled desktops to meet corporate standards than to reinstall.
691.10/18/2007 2:42:00 PMMostly it does not depends on Linux. It depends on the MS working-environment. I would like to use Linux at work, but I can not because all colleges use Windows and MS Office. Open Office has problems with MS-Documents, a lot of details are not right viewing a document created in MS Office.
692.10/18/2007 2:44:00 PMNot enough choice of distros
693.10/18/2007 2:44:00 PMNothing, other than that I'd rather build my own systems. That way, I can get the exact hardware that I want.
694.10/18/2007 2:44:00 PMPrefer to have more control over the install
695.10/18/2007 2:46:00 PMwe dont need them
696.10/18/2007 2:49:00 PMAmount of users and wide scale support in deployment for company IT infra solutions.
697.10/18/2007 2:49:00 PMSpecific hardware.
698.10/18/2007 2:51:00 PMMainly cost - But only in the sense that we mainly use refurbished desktops for client machines. Preinstalled Windows isn't likely to be used either. I do appreciate 'tweaking the install to suit our environment better before deployment anyway.
699.10/18/2007 2:52:00 PMdo not fit into our environment which is based upon kickstart based installation and management by cfengine.
700.10/18/2007 2:53:00 PMThe decision makers have no idea
701.10/18/2007 2:55:00 PMWe dont need pre-installed products.
702.10/18/2007 2:56:00 PMx
703.10/18/2007 2:57:00 PMWe need a cleen environment for critical applications.
704.10/18/2007 2:58:00 PMPre-installed products are not needed because of the automatic installation of the operating sistem and all the needed client software over the local network (PXE).
705.10/18/2007 2:58:00 PMmissing technical applications
706.10/18/2007 3:01:00 PMdifferent configuration an different machines, so we must make a standart on machines. its easier to reinstall
707.10/18/2007 3:02:00 PMBetter integration by self installing
708.10/18/2007 3:08:00 PMWe sell hardware ourself - so we prefer to assemble our own systems for desktop use.
709.10/18/2007 3:08:00 PMWe'd probably need to reinstall our own image anyway...
710.10/18/2007 3:09:00 PMGeneral lack of simple customization tools, problems with mixing pre-installed products from different vendors
711.10/18/2007 3:09:00 PMLinux is not an Option ATM
712.10/18/2007 3:11:00 PMpersonality
713.10/18/2007 3:14:00 PMLack of flexibility
714.10/18/2007 3:17:00 PMLots of insurance business applications are not availlable for Linux
715.10/18/2007 3:19:00 PMThey are pre-installed... It's better to configure your own systems.
716.10/18/2007 3:26:00 PMNo major issues ... just not needed
717.10/18/2007 3:28:00 PMdoesnt fit our needs
718.10/18/2007 3:36:00 PMMicrosoft Exchange interoperability/compatibility
719.10/18/2007 3:37:00 PMwe install ourself always
720.10/18/2007 3:37:00 PMnone
721.10/18/2007 3:43:00 PMThe main advantage would be diskless clients which require no maintainance.
722.10/18/2007 3:43:00 PMPre-installed products are usually built with mid-range quality hardware. In terms of price vs. performance, they definitely get a lower rating. There is also the issue of missing or inadequate drivers even though full support is usually available with Windows from the same vendors.
723.10/18/2007 3:48:00 PMhave no need
724.10/18/2007 3:54:00 PMEverybody has their freedom to choose a distribution an so we're not going to force anyone into using a preinstalled one.
725.10/18/2007 3:57:00 PMLess an issue with these products and more an issue with the backend software support to run this company. Most are windows based. Some have fat clients that do not run in wine or crossover office.
726.10/18/2007 4:00:00 PMGetting Debian from local repository is much easier than waiting for some vendor package some software...
727.10/18/2007 4:06:00 PMindividuell choice
728.10/18/2007 4:07:00 PMNone, however, prefer to build OS on our own.
729.10/18/2007 4:08:00 PMThe need for personalized systems. It&#180;s much faster to choose during the installtion than reconfiguring preinstalled software.
730.10/18/2007 4:08:00 PMWe are using Open Enterprise Server and the need of Novell Client for Linux and configuration. We deploy OS and configuration with ZENWorks Linux Management. Most of the Linux desktops are older machines.
731.10/18/2007 4:09:00 PMOn the wrong hardware!
732.10/18/2007 4:11:00 PMLimited choice of hardware. Limited distro choice.
733.10/18/2007 4:14:00 PMno need for more computers required at this time.
734.10/18/2007 4:15:00 PMWe assemble all on our own
735.10/18/2007 4:16:00 PMThey serve the same purpose as applications we currently use, but are different. It's a matter of culture. When you have middle age employees who can barley manage the basics of applications they have been using for a decade, you're not going to be able to throw a new environment at them and say &quot;No, it has the same capabilities as your previous environment, you just have to re-learn how to do it&quot;. Another issue is cost. Buisnesses have invested a lot of money in Microsoft and Microsoft supported back end software. If Linux doesnt have a Norton antivirus desktop client, now that buisness has to throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars of software. Not going to happen.
736.10/18/2007 4:16:00 PMwe need a customized linux destro, applying an image using PXE boot is a peace of cake what we need is MS office document support and ease of using in open office
737.10/18/2007 4:16:00 PMmaintenance costs
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